Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Deeyoh]

Looks like Chinese are buying ripple like crazy for some weird reason.  Not sure what's up but you can see BTC's market cap going down and Ripples going up. 

[AlcoHoDL]

Oh, how I'm looking forward to 20 years from now... It will be so satisfying to quote all those anti-Bitcoin posts from the recent breed of self-proclaimed prophets announcing Bitcoin's demise. Just like the Internet in the 80s and 90s, when it was all text and command line...

Keep posting anti-Bitcoiners. Verba volant, scripta manent.

[404Revolution]

Oh, how I'm looking forward to 20 years from now... It will be so satisfying to quote all those anti-Bitcoin posts from the recent breed of self-proclaimed prophets announcing Bitcoin's demise. Just like the Internet in the 80s and 90s, when it was all text and command line...

Keep posting anti-Bitcoiners. Verba volant, scripta manent.

Funny. I feel the exact same way.

[Wekkel]

Oh, how I'm looking forward to 20 years from now... It will be so satisfying to quote all those anti-Bitcoin posts from the recent breed of self-proclaimed prophets announcing Bitcoin's demise. Just like the Internet in the 80s and 90s, when it was all text and command line...

Keep posting anti-Bitcoiners. Verba volant, scripta manent.

Don't worry. Latest FUD is that Charlie Lee said that Crypto is going to crash hard soon.

[bitserve]

Don't like ripple in any way but at least it is not intentionally malicious like blockstream
Glad they are deplored by everybody with a functioning brain

I am retarded

Yes.

Hmm why'd you change your "*sigh*" to a "Yes." Just didn't pack that punch you were looking for?

The paid, organized shilling of blockstream is traitorous to the principles espoused by Satoshi Nakamoto and the values this community was supposed to be founded on.

That's Fact. Historians will know this, plain as can be.

Yes. No. We will see.

Look, if you are gonna shill, at least do it with style and with some (even if dubious) arguments like jbreher do. There is absolutely no point in just coming to this thread to vomit your anti-bitcoin statements. There is even less point in me trying to argue anything about your nonsense.

[jojo69]

scripta mainnet?


...oh

[txtravwill]

Upward sloping head and shoulder could break out here soon it seems, over $15,250 to ?  $15,750 if matches height...

[404Revolution]

I'm not here to argue because we know where the score falls. Those who have comitted to lying will continue. Those deceived by those lies will continue to believe them. And the reality will continue to be true.

Bitcointalk is a censored cesspool of deception and countries are actively seeking to ban such discussion forums.

Peace Out Fuckers

[bitserve]

Oh, how I'm looking forward to 20 years from now... It will be so satisfying to quote all those anti-Bitcoin posts from the recent breed of self-proclaimed prophets announcing Bitcoin's demise. Just like the Internet in the 80s and 90s, when it was all text and command line...

Keep posting anti-Bitcoiners. Verba volant, scripta manent.

Don't worry. Latest FUD is that Charlie Lee said that Crypto is going to crash hard soon.

Sauce?

[El duderino_]

Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

27/12/2017 bikerleszno
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30/12/2017 digithusiast
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
01/01/2018 elg
02/01/2018 wachtwoord
03/01/2018 JimboToronto
04/01/2018 d_eddie
05/01/2018 BTCMILLIONAIRE
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
08/01/2018 savetherainforrest
09/01/2018 explorer
10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho
11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire
12/01/2018 speedwheel
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
16/01/2018 maca068
17/01/2018 bitcoinvest
18/01/2018 last of the v8s
19/01/2018 mfort312
20/01/2018 1982dre
21/01/2018 flamast2
22/01/2018 RealMachasm
23/01/2018 willope
24/01/2018 kartala
25/01/2018 orpington
26/01/2018 rolling
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
29/01/2018 CristiTCM
30/01/2018 rayX12
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
01/02/2018 twocorn
02/02/2018 mancroofer
03/02/2018 True Myth
04/02/2018 poolminor
05/02/2018 itod
06/02/2018 scheptan
07/02/2018 vapourminer
08/02/2018 alexeft
09/02/2018 siert
10/02/2018 AlcoHoDL
11/02/2018 Dunkelheit667
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
14/02/2018 Thekool1s
15/02/2018 starmman
16/02/2018 Globb0
17/02/2018 leveldkrypto
18/02/2018 olesh
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
20/02/2018 Paashaas
21/02/2018 flynn
22/02/2018 icygreen
23/02/2018 erisdiscordia
24/02/2018 phil_s
25/02/2018 sirazimuth
26/02/2018 Arriemoller
27/02/2018 yonton
28/02/2018 Muttley
01/03/2018 bones261
02/03/2018 heater
03/03/2018 soullyG
04/03/2018 InvoKing
05/03/2018 Notme
06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
08/03/2018 Imbatman
09/03/2018 Roombot
10/03/2018 STT
11/03/2018 badream
13/03/2018 erre
14/03/2018 julian071
15/03/2018 podyx
17/03/2018 fragout
18/03/2018 fabiorem
21/03/2018 dakustaking76
23/03/2018 nikauforest
31/03/2018 vroom
01/04/2018 somac.
02/04/2018 kurious
04/04/2018 fluidjax
05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny
08/04/2018 tyler1890
10/04/2018 ludwigvon
11/04/2018 hairymaclairy
16/04/2018 practicaldreamer
18/04/2018 free-bit.co.in
27/04/2018 drbrockoin
01/05/2018 sprinkles
02/06/2018 oblox
07/07/2018 IntroVert
03/08/2018 toxic2040
28/08/2018 bitserve
15/10/2018 Yefi
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

MERRY XMAS TO Y'ALL     AND GOOD LUCK

[HairyMaclairy]

And may the odds ever be in your favor

[JimboToronto]

You can get a free upgrade to Win10 until 12/31 www.microsoft.com/accessibility/windows10upgrade

I had the impression that Jimbo actually wants his new laptop to have Windows 7! And so right he is...

I'm on Windows 7 and extremely satisfied. I'm going nowhere near a version number > 7 unless I absolutely have to.

Absolutely. That's the reason I chose this model. Win8 and Win10 are malware.

I managed to scrape together the cash to buy one of them without selling any coin. The other I'll get in a few days.

Pretty nice machine for the price... HP ProBook 450 G3 Notebook (W0S81UT#ABA)... Core-i5, 8GB DDR4, USB3, HDMI, and best of all, a Win7pro DVD in addition to the usual recovery stuff. Not high-end by any stretch but a serviceable "business class" laptop with a nice 15.6" 1080p display for under $700CAD.

I was surprised to see someone still selling a decent new system with Win7. I thought I might have to get a refurb to avoid Win8/10. It's getting harder to find a decent system with legacy BIOS and my trusty old Win7 (all versions) by the TheThingy doesn't work with EUFI systems.
______

It also includes a Win10 DVD as well but that can go straight into the trash. I hate malware.

[rjclarke2000]

Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

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30/12/2017 digithusiast
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
01/01/2018 elg
02/01/2018 wachtwoord
03/01/2018 JimboToronto
04/01/2018 d_eddie
05/01/2018 BTCMILLIONAIRE
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
08/01/2018 savetherainforrest
09/01/2018 explorer
10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho
11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire
12/01/2018 speedwheel
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
16/01/2018 maca068
17/01/2018 bitcoinvest
18/01/2018 last of the v8s
19/01/2018 mfort312
20/01/2018 1982dre
21/01/2018 flamast2
22/01/2018 RealMachasm
23/01/2018 willope
24/01/2018 kartala
25/01/2018 orpington
26/01/2018 rolling
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
29/01/2018 CristiTCM
30/01/2018 rayX12
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
01/02/2018 twocorn
02/02/2018 mancroofer
03/02/2018 True Myth
04/02/2018 poolminor
05/02/2018 itod
06/02/2018 scheptan
07/02/2018 vapourminer
08/02/2018 alexeft
09/02/2018 siert
10/02/2018 AlcoHoDL
11/02/2018 Dunkelheit667
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
14/02/2018 Thekool1s
15/02/2018 starmman
16/02/2018 Globb0
17/02/2018 leveldkrypto
18/02/2018 olesh
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
20/02/2018 Paashaas
21/02/2018 flynn
22/02/2018 icygreen
23/02/2018 erisdiscordia
24/02/2018 phil_s
25/02/2018 sirazimuth
26/02/2018 Arriemoller
27/02/2018 yonton
28/02/2018 Muttley
01/03/2018 bones261
02/03/2018 heater
03/03/2018 soullyG
04/03/2018 InvoKing
05/03/2018 Notme
06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
08/03/2018 Imbatman
09/03/2018 Roombot
10/03/2018 STT
11/03/2018 badream
13/03/2018 erre
14/03/2018 julian071
15/03/2018 podyx
17/03/2018 fragout
18/03/2018 fabiorem
21/03/2018 dakustaking76
23/03/2018 nikauforest
31/03/2018 vroom
01/04/2018 somac.
02/04/2018 kurious
04/04/2018 fluidjax
05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny
08/04/2018 tyler1890
10/04/2018 ludwigvon
11/04/2018 hairymaclairy
16/04/2018 practicaldreamer
18/04/2018 free-bit.co.in
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01/05/2018 sprinkles
02/06/2018 oblox
07/07/2018 IntroVert
03/08/2018 toxic2040
28/08/2018 bitserve
15/10/2018 Yefi
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

MERRY XMAS TO Y'ALL     AND GOOD LUCK

12/03/18

If there is time to add me. No worries if not mic. Thanks.

[HairyMaclairy]

so guys

I just spent over 2 hours learning about hashgraph.  I am not shilling for anything, in fact I'm not even sure there is a way to "get in" on it.  They DO NOT have an ICO.  It looks like they are doing some really innovative platform/protocol work to build scaleable, secure, fair ledgers.

I seems to me that one of the founding tenets of the small block philosophy is the acceptance that bitcoin can not be all things to all people.  We will need robust real time ledgers for a multitude of uses, economic transactions being just one.

Not even going to link...not shilling...advising that it may be worth a look.

There is no mining.  Which tells me that the network is vulnerable to Sybil attacks because there is no cost to massive spam.  I have an open mind but would like to know how Iota deals with spam attacks.  

http://www.swirlds.com/downloads/Swirlds-and-Sybil-Attacks.pdf

it's a pretty deep dive

Hmm.  I read that and the IOTA white paper (which is also a hashgraph / Directed Acrylic Graph).  I think the answers are unsatisfactory.  On Sybil attacks the Iota white paper says Sybil attacks will succeed until there is a plurality of honest actors. This is the killer quote on page 19.

This indicates the need for additional security measures, such as checkpoints, during the early days of a tangle-based system.

Pretty much an admission they have not solved for Sybil attacks.  Bitcoin has the same problem but Sybil attacks come at a horrific cost due to proof of work.  A hashgraph without proof of work has no such protection.  I will stay away until I come across an approach that seems to resolve this issue.

[jojo69]

Jimbo, block a few of the nastier KBs or it really is just 10 with a 7 skin on it

You can get a free upgrade to Win10 until 12/31 www.microsoft.com/accessibility/windows10upgrade

I had the impression that Jimbo actually wants his new laptop to have Windows 7! And so right he is...

I'm on Windows 7 and extremely satisfied. I'm going nowhere near a version number > 7 unless I absolutely have to.

Absolutely. That's the reason I chose this model. Win8 and Win10 are malware.

I managed to scrape together the cash to buy one of them without selling any coin. The other I'll get in a few days.

Pretty nice machine for the price... HP ProBook 450 G3 Notebook (W0S81UT#ABA)... Core-i5, 8GB DDR4, USB3, HDMI, and best of all, a Win7pro DVD in addition to the usual recovery stuff. Not high-end by any stretch but a serviceable "business class" laptop with a nice 15.6" 1080p display for under $700CAD.

I was surprised to see someone still selling a decent new system with Win7. I thought I might have to get a refurb to avoid Win8/10. It's getting harder to find a decent system with legacy BIOS and my trusty old Win7 (all versions) by the TheThingy doesn't work with EUFI systems.
______

It also includes a Win10 DVD as well but that can go straight into the trash. I hate malware.

[adaseb]

If you are an early adopter, post which was the first GPU you ever mined with.

Mine was the Radeon 6990. It was very expensive but it mined Bitcoin at almost 1GH/s, mined LTC at 800MH/s, mined X11, mined XMR, mined ETH.

40nm technology compared to the 16nm we use today.

The card actually can still pull in $2-3 a day.

Ran at 90C and never had any failures or fan issues.

[jojo69]

snip

I suspect that is why they are rolling out with permissioned networks first.  There is no reason a proof of work can not be implemented in layers or modules where it proves to be necessary.

I share your concerns, clearly there is a cost to everything.  I do like that they are not focusing on peer to peer cash...but peer to peer...everything.

[bikerleszno]

[goggles]

If you are an early adopter, post which was the first GPU you ever mined with.

Mine was the Radeon 6990. It was very expensive but it mined Bitcoin at almost 1GH/s, mined LTC at 800MH/s, mined X11, mined XMR, mined ETH.

40nm technology compared to the 16nm we use today.

The card actually can still pull in $2-3 a day.

Ran at 90C and never had any failures or fan issues.

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1566/radeon-6990.jpg

I have about 20 of the 5990's. The real old school miners. They still mine but video is screwed up on them.

[LewisPirenne]

Can also vouch for HP ProBook with Windows 7.  Still have one of these.  Mined a 50 LTC block with it in late 2012.  Only worth about $2.00 at the time and screwed up the HD and embedded AMD Radeon that cost me around $1K.  But their multi-years warranty allows me to basically replace the components and I learned not to mine with laptop again.