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Question: Nov. 18 closing price:
<$35,000 - 4 (9.1%)
$35,000-$35,500 - 1 (2.3%)
$35,500-$36,000 - 4 (9.1%)
$36,000-$36,500 - 4 (9.1%)
$36,500-$37,000 - 4 (9.1%)
$37,000-$37,500 - 3 (6.8%)
$37,500-$38,000 - 4 (9.1%)
$38,000-$38,500 - 5 (11.4%)
$38,500-$39,000 - 2 (4.5%)
$39,000-$39,500 - 1 (2.3%)
$39,500-$40,000 - 0 (0%)
>$40,000 - 12 (27.3%)
Total Voters: 44

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January 31, 2018, 05:33:28 PM

Pop quiz: Convince an average low/middle class fiat-loving law-abiding person who doesnt believe in a failing or fraudlent banking system that they should use bitcoin, without talking about its price or making profit by trading it. Present what benefits they will reap by using bitcoin as opposed to banks, VISA, google pay, venmo, etc. Anything besides capital gain?


You are presenting false parameters in your shilling argument, tera beara... bitcoin is not merely meant to serve as a payment system, even though it may well accomplish such common use in that direction in the future, perhaps, but not necessarily in order to still have value and utility.

Yeah, if you create your own strawman, then you can more easily make some dumb -ass pie in the sky argument, that is not connected with reality.
If you are saying there are false parameters, you must be admitting bitcoin is only for overthrowing the fed, committing crimes, and/or making a profit... (or overthrowing the fed so you dont have to taxes on the profits)


Bullshit.  I am not saying that at all.

I am making a comment about prima facie deficiencies of your hypothetical framework - and maybe I need to point out
 such deficiencies a bit more clearly, so you don't purposefully continue to add to the convolution.   

Your hypothetical clearly implies parameters in which bitcoin's only utility would be as a payment system, and we should suppose away its storage of value proposition.. therefore you are setting up as stupid-ass hypothetical that is no where near what bitcoin currently is in order to suppose some fictitious framework that supports you FUD spreading desires, perhaps? 
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January 31, 2018, 05:43:33 PM

Pop quiz: Convince an average low/middle class fiat-loving law-abiding person that they should use bitcoin without talking about its price or making profit by trading it.

The people you've described tend to be very very stupid, or at least simple-minded. Sheep in general. They believe that government and establishment will help them out, if they only vote for the right politicians.

They think that the best way to make money is to put it in a bank and lose 3% purchasing power each year, despite interest, or to invest in some conservative mutual funds which won't make them any real profit until they die - at least they can pass it to their children... after a hefty tax.

Or maybe they just love being slaves.

EDIT with regards to your quote - if these people are fiat-loving, then you'd have to change that first. For them, Bitcoin offers no benefits because they love the government and idolize the leaders of their political philosophy in government.
Of course, these same leaders will dump them in an economic crash and tax them into oblivion.
I think the proper technical term is agreeable. It's not something you choose. Just like we didn't choose to be disagreeable.
In my experience, most of these "agreeable" people become very aggressive, and call Bitcoin a "scam" etc.

The most common concern I hear is that "Bitcoin is not controlled by anyone, therefore it's too risky". I'm not kidding.

Um, how about a little more discussion about price movement??

Only down $10k. Just a flesh wound. $50k right around the corner...
Yeah we are bored. Years of the same shit over and over, nothing to talk about.

At least so far as price. What would be a useful discussion is how to live when you can choose instead of have it dictated for you. I can't be the only one having an interesting time transitioning.

Yep... exactly... The last year, and perhaps a bit longer (maybe two years) has shown  the bull scenario, and has also allowed BTC HODLers to profit within the outside and speculative possibilities of their dreams, and now we are "suffering" from seeming ongoing support (rather than resistance) at the $10k level, which makes longer term investors to be swimming in a decent state of equity.  Yeah.. I know that some folks cashed out 50% of their bitcoins, but there are a lot of strong hands too that are longer term bitcoin holders, and really did not need to cash out a large percentage of their bitcoins in order to benefit in the land of considerable profits... So, yes.. that does bring a new perspective, and likely a new way of living for several folks, where the dream (or some variation of it) needs to be put into action... which is enjoying some of the fruits of exponential asset appreciation (our little friend BTC) that is likely far from over, yet.
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January 31, 2018, 05:50:29 PM

Mmmm next price poll after 16feb...?? But between ...?? These days iT can be everything , Just Hoping everybody keeps on hodling down here So we can all MOON together

Tuff times these days but buissnes like allways



What is the significance of 2/16?  There is some conference that has been taken over by Bcash around then, and expecting another Bcash pumpening around that time, no?  Which may or may not affect BTC prices, I suppose they would want to pump bcash and to attack bitcoin at the same time and propose the cashening, as oppose to the flippening as oppose to the rippling, as opposed to the tethering as opposed to the dashening?  keeping up can be difficult, no?
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January 31, 2018, 06:25:53 PM

The drop is clearly due to the fact that Bitcoin is backed by drama, and there has been a shortage of drama lately.
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January 31, 2018, 06:28:24 PM

well all I can say is....


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January 31, 2018, 06:33:57 PM

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Go fuck yourself, Jihan.

WOW that's fucked up man, what a scammy way to pump your shitcoin...
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Go fuck yourself, Jihan.

WOW that's fucked up man, what a scammy way to pump your shitcoin...

sounds desperate to me
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sounds desperate to me

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/31/16954366/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-mining-asic-chips-samsung

Big companies like Samsung are entering the cryptocurrency mining arena.
The future doesn´t look particularly bright for Bitmain if all the established chipmakers
will start to produce ASICs. And don´t even get me started on the future of BCH  Grin

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How do you reckon we start some proper drama ? WWTD ?

Things are awfully quiet right now. We're going to need some real spicy headlines like:

Mark Karpeles to reopen MtGox; initial balances set by lottery
Bitcoin Core devs call for reducing the max block size to 100kB. "Fees are too damn low!"
Tether announces that USDT is now paying 7% weekly interest
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January 31, 2018, 06:41:39 PM

Not really strictly on topic, but the Swiss are voting to potentially ban banks from using fractional reserve, in order to create true 'sovereign money'.   

It's a stab at the existing system and forces banks to get their money like everyone else, instead of creating at will. Interesting if it happens... 

A new paradigm?

https://www.vollgeld-initiative.ch/english/
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Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?

 The master luck account has been compromised but he has a few aliases.

This is him on ://www.traditradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/


How do you know the masterluc account has been compromised? Actmyname left negative trust with a comment the account is compromised, but he hasn't posted a reference link that explains the negative.

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January 31, 2018, 06:46:00 PM

Tether announces that USDT is now paying 7% weekly interest

get your referral links here




hey theymos

take a minute out of your busy day and hook masterluc back up 'eh?
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Go fuck yourself, Jihan.

His days are numbered. Let him laugh for now.
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sounds desperate to me

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/31/16954366/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-mining-asic-chips-samsung

Big companies like Samsung are entering the cryptocurrency mining arena.
The future doesn´t look particularly bright for Bitmain if all the established chipmakers
will start to produce ASICs. And don´t even get me started on the future of BCH  Grin



TMSC produces and supplies Bitmains chip.
Samsungs foundry is making it for a customer, not entering directly:
"TechCrunch: “Samsung’s foundry business is currently engaged in the manufacturing of cryptocurrency mining chips. However we are unable to disclose further details regarding our customers.”
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Go fuck yourself, Jihan.

WOW that's fucked up man, what a scammy way to pump your shitcoin...

sounds desperate to me

Bitmain has only been accepting BCH payment for miners since October 1 last year. It has been a while not something they just started doing.
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January 31, 2018, 07:19:29 PM

U guys in the west are the ones going short. Asians are pumping u are scalping. Warren Buffet, Soros.
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TMSC produces and supplies Bitmains chip.
Samsungs foundry is making it for a customer, not entering directly:
"TechCrunch: “Samsung’s foundry business is currently engaged in the manufacturing of cryptocurrency mining chips. However we are unable to disclose further details regarding our customers.”

Yeah, I was thinking about this the other night.  If Jihan has used his war chest to lock down another foundry humanity is fucked.
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Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?
The master luck account has been compromised but he has a few aliases.

This is him on ://www.traditradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/
How do you know the masterluc account has been compromised? Actmyname left negative trust with a comment the account is compromised, but he hasn't posted a reference link that explains the negative.

Masterluc wrote so himself on VKontakte
https://vk.com/wall-130254204_7571
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TMSC produces and supplies Bitmains chip.
Samsungs foundry is making it for a customer, not entering directly:
"TechCrunch: “Samsung’s foundry business is currently engaged in the manufacturing of cryptocurrency mining chips. However we are unable to disclose further details regarding our customers.”

Yeah, I was thinking about this the other night.  If Jihan has used his war chest to lock down another foundry humanity is fucked.
If the client is Jihan, it's only SHA256 that is fucked.
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