Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[d_eddie]

Is it possible for you to have established partial closiong targets?  For example, four of them, or some other comfortable quantity:  1) at $6,200, 2) at $5,200, 3) at $4,200 and 4) at $3,200.

Entirely. I do have partial close orders sprinkled - you guessed it - along a ladder. The lowest, most profitable, is well above 3200 for now, but I hope that by the time we get to that, I'll be profiting already and perhaps the ladder will be exhausted.

I really don't believe that it is very likely that your $3,200-ish one would close,

Right. That's if we get to that, which I also doubt.

Do you have a better way of framing your tentative ongoing correction strategy, at this time?

I'm nursing my hedge to  as high an entry point as I can. My loose guidance: I'm trying to keep approximately fixed hypothetical profit at, say, 5k or 4.5k. This can be done with a smaller position as long as the entry is better (higher). So I make the position smaller by closing partially when in the money, waiting for another climb to average up, so that when it gets down in the money again, I can release (cash out) a little more than in the previous cycle. All this goes by small increments, small sums. The idea is not to be found flat when it really plunges, and be ready to release with some predetermined stop when the pain becomes unbearable.

(When/if are used interchangeably. It's the same thing. I don't know. I don't care.)

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[Rosewater Foundation]

Yeah, I'm really hoping to be verified sometime before $3200..
 

[d_eddie]

It was Rosewater who brought the topic into this arena of gentlemen.

The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf

The taint paper has stirred several reactions.

tasty find my arse

Hm, by the refined language, I sense a fellow Oxford scholar?  

Seriously, I don't see the paper as advocating anything in particular. If it actually is, I didn't notice or I deem the advocacy irrelevant. The strength of that discussion is the what-if speculation it suggests. It is assumed that the public Taintchain is a reality. The Taintchain makes it effectively instant to look up taint, which is distributed in a strict LIFO fashion. This sounds as a prescription (advocating), but I hear a scientific stance. "It's a precise working hypothesis with good effects on the engineering," it sounds to me. The Taintchain can actually become real today, once the blockchain is scanned to create a different view of the transaction database. Keeping the Taintchain current is a trivial matter.

Under these assumptions, there are interesting consequences. Different administrations will be interested in tracking different events. And they will each be able to do that in a much easier way than today. And anyone else can do the same, too. The algorithm is there. How long before an open source solution allows you to track any taintchain known to man, as well as hypothetical ones defined by the user's ow custom rules? I think this ease of implementation makes it likely that it will get done.

Now, initiating taint on a whim or on user action can be a daunting task for a public administration, but limiting the initial " taint award" to only a few well-known events (like, Mt.Gox size only - either finance-wise or  by media resonance) is completely doable. As is picking your own pet taint-generating events.

No one has to like that. I don't know if I would myself. But it's a realistic possibility in, say, China for export controls. See the what-if? Chinese taint wouldn't mean much in the USA, right? Or wouldn't it?

Food for thought.

Reporting doesn’t need to be false to be damaging.
A sends coins to exchange and sells, withdrawing different coins.  B truthfully claims that A stole the coins and sues exchange for value of the coins.  Exchange is liable to compensate B.  

Possible limits to exchange liability are also vaguely hypothesized, but it's lawyer stuff, so the authors - computer scientists, remember - don't toy with the idea too much. They appear to be fascinated by the game theoretical implications. I also am.

You say "successfully disputed", I say that "successfully" involves a new layer of lawyers.

You say "they bust you bullshitting the system, its trouble..." I say "ho ho, Deripaska, Zuma..."

Or maybe it's no trouble at all. Your claim is simply ignored because it didn't make it to the master list of scams. It's not even 1/100,000 of Gox size after all. Or maybe someone snitches on you, dealing in drugs or military technology or whatever. One address paying you gets leaked. What happens to your coins? Which countries are involved? Which exchange did the coins pass through?

A paper that gets me thinking along these lines must be a good paper under some definition of good.

Nice find my ass, my ass
As we say in Oxford after class.

[Rosewater Foundation]

I'm just going to leave this one here for the bugman to sort out.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1501.0021v1.pdf

[d_eddie]

^^ TROLL BAIT 

I'm just going to leave this one here for the bugman to sort out.
http://vixra.org/pdf/1501.0021v1.pdf

[Karartma1]

Finally I know:that is what is called a self fulfilling prophecy, am I right? You are telling me that we are fighting in the dark meanwhile our hero is gaining back his strenght. Fine by me

[Jacques_Bittard]

It feels like a third of the market has just shut down. Sideways movement without any real direction, followed by sharp slices through thin books. The market usually looks like this when it is at the end of the bubble, so it's surprising to see it now. Possibly something brewing that hasn't hit the news yet.

[Rosewater Foundation]

It feels like a third of the market has just shut down. Sideways movement without any real direction, followed by sharp slices through thin books. The market usually looks like this when it is at the end of the bubble, so it's surprising to see it now. Possibly something brewing that hasn't hit the news yet.

It's plum pudding, Jacques. It's English tradition. The next 25 kilometres are critical.

[STT]

silver is not going to save you.

It might save you if you were a silversmith and able to utilise it in value creation via skilled labour.  Silver is an industrial commodity, mined alongside such common metals as lead.   Its never rare exactly but also its highly useful maybe increasingly so following the rapid decrease of conventional photo development consumption.   I think I saw a chart showing greater demand for silver in a way like lithium is expected to rise, due to new energy technology types.   I think it'll be a vital metal for reasons like that but I dont know it'll take off exactly, I do think it'll maintain its value for sure from current $16 (long term)

Silver price prospects will suffer quite alot with any knock to global GDP estimates (I dont think its overpriced at all presently).  Its a long road to any monetisation concept, I think if gold does raise greatly silver will be picked up but not in a steady way.  Its not a bad hold but I wouldnt say its especially superior to oil or any general bet on world commerce out pacing the devaluation of dollars.   One of the biggest subsidies for crypto is the failure of US dollar rates to offset effective inflation, if there really was a strong dollar it would greatly impede growth here I think as well many avant garde technology areas still developing.

  I generally agree strong dollar is impossible now, its holed below the water line but market prices wont reflect that for years probably.   I expect dollar to rise with appearance of higher rates and QE reversal though its impossible to complete especially without a budget surplus and we just saw thats not happening, the biggest market prices can  be wrong and still have secondary effects on smaller markets like this one.

BTC price is dismal / idle / drifting.  A flat wedge perhaps looking purely short term, is it waiting for something.

[Lontonbit]

I'm looking forward to another jjgee spree, you entertain me

[CoinCube]

07/03/2018 CoinCube 

Typo on my part here. I meant 2019 not last month. 

[Rosewater Foundation]

07/03/2018 CoinCube  

Typo on my part here. I meant 2019 not last month.  

Surprised you're still here, Doc. Did you hodl all the way down?
Because that's just sad.

[Last of the V8s]

It was Rosewater who brought the topic into this arena of gentlemen.

The argument for taint and title is strong
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf

The taint paper has stirred several reactions.

tasty find my arse

Hm, by the refined language, I sense a fellow Oxford scholar?  
blah blah blah
A paper that gets me thinking along these lines must be a good paper under some definition of good.
Nice find my ass, my ass
As we say in Oxford after class.

Dear, dear Ed, Read the effing thread.
Rosewater was making a pass
At my sweet, sweet arse.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/making-bitcoin-legal.pdf Ross Anderson, Ilia Shumailov and Mansoor Ahmed
shoulda read http://trilema.com/2014/guidance-there-is-no-such-thing-as-bitcoin-taint/
and http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/

[realr0ach]

it's like when the tyran of the kremlin attack the poor civilians in syria

^^^
Like I said a million times before, Jews are an evil cult that are not even capable of telling the truth.  Look at this lying kike.  Every single word out of his mouth is a lie.  It's not even a good lie.  Nobody in this entire thread is dumb enough to believe their Zionist false flag chemical attack.  Nobody.  Each time you tell this lie, all it does is create a new Nazi soldier from random Goyim passerbys seeing that you're a chronic liar and refusing to put up with your lies and scams anymore.  You are a mobile Nazi recruiting center.  Keep up the good work!

[Rsiyz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

 widely regarded as a deceitful false flag operation staged along with some two dozen similar German incidents on the eve of the invasion of Poland leading up to World War II in Europe.[1] The attackers had been posed as Polish nationals. Adolf Hitler invaded Poland the very next morning after a lengthy period of preparations. During his declaration of war, Hitler did not mention Gleiwitz incident by name, but grouped all provocations staged by the SS as an alleged Polish assault on Germany. The Gleiwitz incident is the best-known action of Operation Himmler, a series of special operations undertaken by the Schutzstaffel (SS) to serve Nazi German propaganda at the outbreak of war.

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Merkel congratulation to v. Orban hungary pm three times ))) and in hungary is soros "wanted"    soo keep it in head usa molons..))

Noobody eat that false attack (gas) from saudi/il/gb/usa coalition .. usa get kick ass on un voting palestina 14-1  again )))

 here where i live(strong nato country) also all media stoped write about that last fake gas attack ... so I am very pleasantly surprised .. proably some changes will comming..(not very good for usa)

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

very quick short list  for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only  when breaking 12288 dollar price.....  almost same rules as the list before just a winning date

I ll take 15/04/2019, thanks!

Hi Mic, I saw I was added for 2018 instead of 2019. 

[realr0ach]

proably some changes will comming..(not very good for usa)

Why do you keep pretending the US is run by Americans or even really exists in the first place?  The US as an entity solely consists of scamming Jewish criminals at the banks, and lying Jewish criminals at the media.  That's all America is.  It also happens to be the same exact model in most nations on the planet.  However, this power structure is nothing more than a frail paper tiger that instantly implodes once the bread and circuses fail to appease the mob, then the mob expels them from the country - either alive or in boxes - just like they've been expelled from countries over 100 times before.

[Last of the V8s]

[realr0ach]

https://i.imgur.com/9Fuz6dv.jpg

I resent this depiction of god, as earth is mostly a closed ecosystem.  Combine the 2nd law of thermodynamics with a closed ecosystem and you have no peace, eternal metaphorical tidal waves of disruption, and essentially a UFC cage match to the death among many/most of it's inhabitants.  If that specific manifestation of god was real, he would have designed it all much differently.

One does not simply walk into Valhalla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIu8WAO1iFU

[JayJuanGee]

I'm looking forward to another jjgee spree, you entertain me

No you are not, you nothingness poster who wants to focus on meaninglessness.





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Do you feel better, now that someone paid attention to you and played with you?