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[TERA2]

Psychedelics in general just amplify what is already going on inside you.
Hence if you're having a hard time with life, then that will be amplified to extreme and potentially life-like levels with all your insecurities and problems taking "real" shapes depending on the dosage that you've ingested.

As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.

So far I didn't have anything anywhere near as extreme as the horror stories that I've read on the internet though, and I can't imagine myself ever having any of those experiences either.
But I've also made it a point to remember what I did prior to the experience, which takes off the edge. I'm also quite curious as to what is going to happen during the moment of death, since it's quite obviously just a fairly tale that humans tell themselves for the lulz. And then, with a high enough dosage you lose control anyways and at that point it doesn't really matter what happens since you just fully dissolve in what is happening (if anything at all).

However, I could imagine that the tea that shamans brew in their filthy pots in the jungles with all the resulting vomitting and diarrhea could have a very different impact on the person though. Which is also why I'm not particularly interested, although I've had an experience with throwing up on the come up before, which while fucking hilarious, wasn't something I'd need to repeat in that form.


All the same is true for cannabis as well by the way, which is why some people with certain characters get overly paranoid on it. The trick is to distract yourself and to just fake it until you make it. At some point any onset of paranoia just becomes a predictable meme to laugh at (disclaimer: do not try at home I'm not a doctor etc).


P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?

I understand your theory. However, the negativity in this experience was strictly physical and prior to ayahuasca I never had a bad experience on psychedelics in my life. I was always fearless and trying to go as deep as possible (hence trying Ayahuasca). However, something was extremely different about this ayahuasca experience. At about the 90 minute mark was when it was no longer fun and I noticed my body had gone very cold, my limbs felt dead, and I felt like I weighed 2000 poinds. Everything was buzzing like I had neuropathy and I saw the white tunnel of death (which kind of looks like a spinning particle accelerator). I needed to gasp for breath and could barely sit up. I was starving for oxygen, couldnt breathe right, and seeing stars. There were no more visuals - just the stars and static of someone who was being choked and passing out. I was certain I was dying. After realizing I wasn't getting to a hospital any time soon, I said my goodbyes to everyone and surrendered my life. I proceeded to sort of black out for the next 6 hours.

Again I dont remember any visuals or anything meaningful - just sort of on and off blacking out and praying for my life. Oh and vomiting no less than 100 times. At some point the ceremony was over and I was supposed to leave, but I wasnt ready and it took me another few hours in a sort of catatonic stupor to gather my composure to be able to walk out. I was asked about my visuals and if I saw any spirit animals, etc. and I said all I saw were some geometric patterns, which confused them. They asked over and over and I just pointed to their robes. They handed me a survey to fill out which I thought was hilarious because I couldnt read still. Looking back it doesn't seem like a psychedelic experience at all but rather just being knocked the fuck out and brain damaged. Maybe it was serotonin syndrome.

I also had trouble the first time I tried "weed" where a few minutes after taking several puffs because I wasn't getting high, I started seeing stars and then totally lost consciousness, and according to a friend I convulsed and threw fists at him. 10 minutes later I woke up from some deep dream not knowing what planet I was on, took minutes to regain my bearings, and felt like shit for the next 2 weeks. But that was nothing like the ayahuasca trip. I'm just wondering if my brain isn't able to metabolize certain drugs. Inbetween the weed and the ayahuasca, I did have a stellar career with some other classic drugs though

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[jojo69]

all drugs work because they affect the brain. amphetamines are not easier on your brain chemistry than psylocibin or lsd. i´d say that amphetamines are the bigger burden for the brain.

there is also the matter of the nature of the effect

Amphetamines (the common type, phenethylamines excluded) are extraordinarily destructive to the human character.  Bad stuff kids, stay away.

[TERA2]

Amphetamines (the common type, phenethylamines excluded) are extraordinarily destructive to the human character.  Bad stuff kids, stay away.

Meanwhile a 5 year old is being prescribed an amphetamine right now to improve their character. 

[Last of the V8s]

Rosewater feat. The Reposts

Yeah but have you seen this?
Some Australian guy claims he's Satoshi

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/craig-wright-s-latest-satoshi-claim-unleashes-media-storm-bitcoin-community-remains-skeptical-1462208163/

[gentlemand]

there is also the matter of the nature of the effect

Amphetamines (the common type, phenethylamines excluded) are extraordinarily destructive to the human character.  Bad stuff kids, stay away.

I knew a couple of hardened speed freaks growing up.

One was no longer there any more but looked physically fine. He used to go and live in the woods with carrier bags full of books. If you left him alone with any machinery he'd take it apart and stare at the bits.

The other was a living skeleton who was compos mentis 98% of the time, the other 2% his eyes would glaze over and foam would start pouring out of his mouth.

Fun times.

[pacman7331]

Aaaaaaaand now its bearish again.

RSI pointing down bouncing off 40.

Apparently this line will change its angle up to 180 degrees during the day. Seen it myself. Live.

[TERA2]

All the drug talk here reminds of the Wolf of Wall Street - I guess that movie is true

[infofront]

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

[Ivor Biggun]

Aaaaaaaand now its bearish again.

My guess is this bottom's the biggest we'll get.

[Elwar]

Personally I prefer as natural as possible. Was never vaccinated as a kid, was born at home, went to the medical doctor twice growing up (once for a broken collar bone and once for a broken arm), don't take anything to numb my teeth for cavities, I've never even had an aspirin. I avoided caffeine growing up and usually only get it through tea nowdays. I've been to doctors as an adult but it is usually some sort of checkup for work.

I hardly ever get sick. If I do, there's usually a home remedy to help it (most often it falls to 'feed a cold, starve a fever'). I go to chiropractors often to stay healthy.

I do fall into eating American food more often than I should. The chemicals in that shit are just as bad as most things out there. Been doing better here in Tahiti. I think part of the reason many Tahitians are fat is due to McDonalds being the only fast food restaurant here. And the locals flock to it.

Not that I care what others do with their bodies, everyone around me smokes pot. They just know I don't want any and respect that (like civilized human beings).

[Last of the V8s]

[mymenace]

All the drug talk here reminds of the Wolf of Wall Street - I guess that movie is true

And where do they get it from

American Made

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Made_(film)

[xhomerx10]

I've been inspired by the sombre, somewhat-reflective mood of the day.

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[Torque]

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

Et tu, brute? Oh how ironic.

I wonder how long until all the BCash cultists realize they've been had and stone Roger Ver in the street...

[Ivor Biggun]

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

Craig Wright

[HairyMaclairy]

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

Et tu, brute? Oh how ironic.

I wonder how long until all the BCash cultists realize they've been had and stone Roger Ver in the street...

A historic IRS audit would be a good start.  Might be enough for an international warrant.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I understand your theory. However, the negativity in this experience was strictly physical and prior to ayahuasca I never had a bad experience on psychedelics in my life. I was always fearless and trying to go as deep as possible (hence trying Ayahuasca). However, something was extremely different about this ayahuasca experience. At about the 90 minute mark was when it was no longer fun and I noticed my body had gone very cold, my limbs felt dead, and I felt like I weighed 2000 poinds. Everything was buzzing like I had neuropathy and I saw the white tunnel of death (which kind of looks like a spinning particle accelerator). I needed to gasp for breath and could barely sit up. I was starving for oxygen, couldnt breathe right, and seeing stars. There were no more visuals - just the stars and static of someone who was being choked and passing out. I was certain I was dying. After realizing I wasn't getting to a hospital any time soon, I said my goodbyes to everyone and surrendered my life. I proceeded to sort of black out for the next 6 hours.

Again I dont remember any visuals or anything meaningful - just sort of on and off blacking out and praying for my life. Oh and vomiting no less than 100 times. At some point the ceremony was over and I was supposed to leave, but I wasnt ready and it took me another few hours in a sort of catatonic stupor to gather my composure to be able to walk out. I was asked about my visuals and if I saw any spirit animals, etc. and I said all I saw were some geometric patterns, which confused them. They asked over and over and I just pointed to their robes. They handed me a survey to fill out which I thought was hilarious because I couldnt read still. Looking back it doesn't seem like a psychedelic experience at all but rather just being knocked the fuck out and brain damaged. Maybe it was serotonin syndrome.

I also had trouble the first time I tried "weed" where a few minutes after taking several puffs because I wasn't getting high, I started seeing stars and then totally lost consciousness, and according to a friend I convulsed and threw fists at him. 10 minutes later I woke up from some deep dream not knowing what planet I was on, took minutes to regain my bearings, and felt like shit for the next 2 weeks. But that was nothing like the ayahuasca trip. I'm just wondering if my brain isn't able to metabolize certain drugs. Inbetween the weed and the ayahuasca, I did have a stellar career with some other classic drugs though

That sounds pretty terrifying. Another reason for me to stay away from Peru, as interesting as the environment sounds. Luckily safer substances and ROAs can go just as deep as ayahuasca minus the negative side effects.


Ayahuasca is pretty much a combination of two substances, DMT and a MAO inhibitor, and then some random stuff depending on what shaman you're with. The MAO-I basically allows the DMT to become active when ingested (as opposed to smoked or injected), but it also creates the risk of serotonin syndrome, the symptoms of which sound like what you're describing.

If that's what happened then the weed experience seems confusing though, since it can't trigger SS. I've had some "negative" experiences with weed to say the least, but I never really passed out. I got close once when my entire field of vision got filled up with tiny turquoise colored donuts and my legs felt like gummy snakes. Somehow managed to get home and just lay down. Other times I've paid too much attention to my breathing and/or heart rate and freaked myself out into believing I was dying, but never anything quite as extreme as what you've described. Absolutely zero negative experiences with harder drugs beyond the usual "did I take too much" or "was this a mistake" kind of thoughts that accompany the come-up of every great trip, at least for now (fingers crossed that won't change).

Have you talked to your doctor about the SS possibility regarding your current condition? Or was that unrelated?

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Speaking of Craig Wright, he just got rekt by Peter R.

I love humans. You just can't make this shit up.

[oblox]

Aaaaaaaand now its bearish again.

RSI pointing down bouncing off 40.

Apparently this line will change its angle up to 180 degrees during the day. Seen it myself. Live.

Dude, RSI (and any secondary indicator for that matter) isn't a leader of shit.

[Jacques_Bittard]

Bought eos, sold eos for a 20% gain, now bought xrp and will buy back eos later. After a long time, it's possible to have fun with crypto. Hope it lasts.