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September 08, 2019, 11:33:34 PM

to re-iterate two recent analysis of bitcoin statistics:

S/F by planB

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1170701620751065095   #this is latest reiteration, see medium article for the original.

Power law by Harold Cristopher Burger:

https://medium.com/@hcburger1/bitcoins-natural-long-term-power-law-corridor-of-growth-649d0e9b3c94

TL;DR S/F predicts at least 55K at the halving with about 55-300K band; Power law predicts a maximum of about 120K by the end of 2021 and as low as 15k in the ensuing correction by the beginning of 2023. S/F is a bit more optimistic (no reason for the price to dip to 15K).

If we are looking more short-term BTC price dynamics, part of the question currently, in my ponderings, is whether there is going to be a weekly candle closing reaction?

Sometimes it comes before the weekly candle closing and sometimes afterwards.

BTC price dynamics seem pretty flat right now, and the weekly candle closes in about 30 minutes, at the time of my typing.
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If it was not for Segwit, we would be paying higher fees today, and the network would be slower.

Well, there was another available means of solving these issues.

Who cares?  Water under the bridge.

Segwit was passed by overwhelming consensus, yet diptwats like you want to continue to argue about (then) supposed other options.. so fucking what?  That's not what happened.

Word.  Go out there and make Beecash Satoshis Original Crispy VisionTM happen.  Don’t sit around here complaining to us about what might have been
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Got bad news.  Silver will probably double top at $800 an ounce.

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Here is a look at the weekly chart from a couple of different perspectives. No ta..ive had a few too many cold snacks and am looking at the screen outta one eye at the moment..
Seahawks win a nail biter in the home opener against the Bengals 21-20   Life is good.  Carry on.
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September 09, 2019, 01:15:44 AM

https://usethebitcoin.com/jed-mccaleb-receives-100-million-xrp-from-ripple/

LOL, XRP The Bagholder standard. Jed will be dumping all of these on shitcoiners heads.

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every shitcoin bagholder
is this alt season?

Unknowingly, or...?
Posted a visual #haiku!
Goose with a surprise
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Good day Bitcoinland
Ten four four two U.S. bucks
(Bitcoinaverage).

Still going sideways
When will this crap ever end?
Maybe November.

Buying those cheap coins
Still plentiful time brothers
Hurry though moon soon

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Update: Lander location found from the orbitar but still no response from the lander with any signals.

But as scientist says 90% success of this project can be achieved with orbitar itself.

Landing on other planets and moons is *hard*.

The real tough part is getting back in one piece and sticking that landing. Smiley


Here is a look at the weekly chart from a couple of different perspectives. No ta..ive had a few too many cold snacks and am looking at the screen outta one eye at the moment..
Seahawks win a nail biter in the home opener against the Bengals 21-20   Life is good.  Carry on....


I have Lockett and was getting pretty pissed there for awhile!

In other news, Pittsburgh just embarrassed themselves and the Pats getting AB is not even remotely fair.
I'm saying that and i'm a Pats fan. That is of course if he doesn't blow up there too.
I tend to think this was his plan all along though, Raiders got boned too.
Was this another Belichick masterstroke?

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September 09, 2019, 04:13:39 AM

Good day Bitcoinland
Ten four four two U.S. bucks
(Bitcoinaverage).

Still going sideways
When will this crap ever end?
Maybe November.

I would kind of prefer staying between $9k and $11.5k until about November rather than dropping below $9k and then perhaps getting stuck down there for longer than we were to prefer.

On the other hand, some folks think that there is a bit of a necessity to drop below $9k in order to cause some resolution in the ability to go up, so in other words, the expectation is that we are not ready to go up yet because buy support is still catching up.  So either stay in this range a bit longer or test some more downward support before likely resolving in the up direction.
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Got bad news.  Silver will probably double top at $800 an ounce.




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September 09, 2019, 04:36:40 AM

How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing

Yet interestingly, all fully supported in the 0.1 version of the Bitcoin protocol. You know, before the Cripple Rangers took control of the codebase. SegWit, on the other hand...

Funny, eh?

So what's the point you are trying to make?

My mistake.  I couldn't see any evidence of them in the white paper.  Thank you for clarifying that it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper.

That is not what I said at all. Are you really that blind that you do not see what I am getting at? Even with your introduction of demonstrably flawed sidebars?

The initial implementation of Bitcoin - 0.1 supports all the features you list. Without recourse to explicit enabling code.
The initial implementation of Bitcoin -- and including up to and through the SegWit Omnibus Changeset Release -- did not support SegWit. Neither explicitly nor as an external implementation. Indeed, the implementation of SegWit was predicated on the most egregious change to the Bitcoin protocol ever enacted.
The features you list did not / do not require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.
SegWit did / does require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.

So when you say "it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper", you're neither right nor wrong. What matters is the protocol itself. SegWit was undeniably a change to that protocol. A rather significant one. Therefore, somewhat 'less Bitcoin-y' -- at least on this axis -- than other implementations which hew to the original.

On the other hand, if some element is decidedly counter to the white paper (chain of digital signatures, anyone?), then that indeed does matter.

It’s hard to keep track of what you were saying when you keep changing it. 

Bullshit. I've been consistent. You've been persistent in finding new words to stick in my mouth.
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Got bad news.  Silver will probably double top at $800 an ounce.



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It's December. Year 2022. Shitcoiners still waiting for altseason. Their porfolios are down 99.9998%. Altseason finally comes. Their portfolios make a huge 10% recovery. Bitcoin is $250,000. Trump got re-elected. Schiff converted all his gold to #Bitcoin. Vitalik disappeared. 😐
Source: https://twitter.com/ArminVanBitcoin/status/1170855637078695936
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It's December. Year 2022. Shitcoiners still waiting for altseason. Their porfolios are down 99.9998%. Altseason finally comes. Their portfolios make a huge 10% recovery. Bitcoin is $250,000. Trump got re-elected. Schiff converted all his gold to #Bitcoin. Vitalik disappeared. 😐
Source: https://twitter.com/ArminVanBitcoin/status/1170855637078695936

You always have a tab open on CoinMarketCap.com
You always have a tab open on WO thread.

Check all of them.
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How could evidence of personal identity have anything whatsoever to do with evidence of protocol change?

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I'm not sure if you're trolling or trying to be serious.

Back at ya.

See any evidence of SegWit in the white paper? No?

Explicitly in front of your face. Willful dereliction of truthiness.

SegWit was indeed an alteration of the Bitcoin protocol. Undeniably. There is really no way to argue otherwise.

I am pretty confident the white paper doesn’t say anything about Turing completeness, legally enforceable smart contracts, token protocols,  large data storage capability and all the other shit in Bitcoin SV marketing

Yet interestingly, all fully supported in the 0.1 version of the Bitcoin protocol. You know, before the Cripple Rangers took control of the codebase. SegWit, on the other hand...

Funny, eh?

So what's the point you are trying to make?

My mistake.  I couldn't see any evidence of them in the white paper.  Thank you for clarifying that it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper.

That is not what I said at all. Are you really that blind that you do not see what I am getting at? Even with your introduction of demonstrably flawed sidebars?

The initial implementation of Bitcoin - 0.1 supports all the features you list. Without recourse to explicit enabling code.
The initial implementation of Bitcoin -- and including up to and through the SegWit Omnibus Changeset Release -- did not support SegWit. Neither explicitly nor as an external implementation. Indeed, the implementation of SegWit was predicated on the most egregious change to the Bitcoin protocol ever enacted.
The features you list did not / do not require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.
SegWit did / does require a change to the Bitcoin protocol.

So when you say "it doesn't matter whether something is mentioned in the whitepaper", you're neither right nor wrong. What matters is the protocol itself. SegWit was undeniably a change to that protocol. A rather significant one. Therefore, somewhat 'less Bitcoin-y' -- at least on this axis -- than other implementations which hew to the original.

On the other hand, if some element is decidedly counter to the white paper (chain of digital signatures, anyone?), then that indeed does matter.

It’s hard to keep track of what you were saying when you keep changing it. 

Bullshit. I've been consistent. You've been persistent in finding new words to stick in my mouth.

wtf these new planes have jet engines, and cars have airbags?!?! But but none of this was in the original design!!!
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Haven't really made my mind about it but for now I am planning to dump %15-20 of my stash for every $10k increment starting from $50k and make the final blow at $100k.

Also I'll buy back every piece I dumped if the price goes $10k lower from where I sell the coins.

For example;

Sold %20 @ $50k. Now there are 2  possibilities.

 A) the price goes down for $10k to $40k and I buy back and increase the btc amount,
 B) It goes higher and reaches $60k. Then I'll domp et again another %16-17.

If A) happens in the first round  > back to hodling
If B) happens > again another 2 possibilities A) and B) but this time it's happening @ $60k.

Will probably play that game to maximize the profits till it reaches $100k. Not really decided on anything just thinking. I may completely ignore the "buy back" part too.
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September 09, 2019, 06:36:26 AM
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Some of you may get a kick out of this article...

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Of course, technical analysis sometimes seems to work, says Janny Kul, who crunched the numbers on hundreds of TA research papers. Likewise, a coin flipped several times might yield five heads in a row. But falsely assuming that the coin’s past landings affect the probability of its future landings is wrongheaded. Indeed, the fallacy even has a name—“statistical independence.”
https://decrypt.co/9002/technical-analysis-the-art-of-wrongly-predicting-the-future

"Coin’s past landings affect" analogy is stupid. There's a big chance tomorrow's price will be close to today's price, everyone knows that. Tomorrow's price is not "statistically independent" from today's price.

Multi-year trend lines also can be useful for multi-year predictions.

Even past 2-3 months can be useful, like right now we're experiencing 80 days of sideways. So there is a good chance we'll continue moving sideways for at least another week.
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OMG guys FOMO has arrived. Just got this in my spam: Invest in Bitcoin and earn from $ 3000 per day  Grin Grin Grin  first time since 2017 I'm receiving this spam so we're about to EXPLODE!  Cool
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OMG guys FOMO has arrived. Just got this in my spam: Invest in Bitcoin and earn from $ 3000 per day  Grin Grin Grin  first time since 2017 I'm receiving this spam so we're about to EXPLODE!  Cool

I really love bitcoin spam. I collect them and I want to share it with you:

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Hello!

I'm a programmer who cracked your email account and device about half year ago.
You entered a password on one of the insecure site you visited, and I catched it.

Of course you can will change your password, or already made it.
But it doesn't matter, my rat software update it every time.

Please don't try to contact me or find me, it is impossible, since I sent you an email from your email account.

Through your e-mail, I uploaded malicious code to your Operation System.
I saved all of your contacts with friends, colleagues, relatives and a complete history of visits to the Internet resources.
Also I installed a rat software on your device and long tome spying for you.

You are not my only victim, I usually lock devices and ask for a ransom.
But I was struck by the sites of intimate content that you very often visit.

I am in shock of your reach fantasies! Wow! I've never seen anything like this!
I did not even know that SUCH content could be so exciting!

So, when you had fun on intime sites (you know what I mean!)
I made screenshot with using my program from your camera of yours device.
After that, I jointed them to the content of the currently viewed site.

Will be funny when I send these photos to your contacts! And if your relatives see it?
BUT I'm sure you don't want it. I definitely would not want to ...

I will not do this if you pay me a little amount.
I think $811 is a nice price for it!

I accept only Bitcoins.
My BTC wallet: 17XHRucfd4kx3W5ty7ySLGiKHqmPUUdpus

If you have difficulty with this - Ask Google "how to make a payment on a bitcoin wallet". It's easy.
After receiving the above amount, all your data will be immediately removed automatically.
My virus will also will be destroy itself from your operating system.

My Trojan have auto alert, after this email is looked, I will be know it!

You have 2 days (48 hours) for make a payment.
If this does not happen - all your contacts will get crazy shots with your dirty life!
And so that you do not obstruct me, your device will be locked (also after 48 hours)

Do not take this frivolously! This is the last warning!
Various security services or antiviruses won't help you for sure (I have already collected all your data).

Here are the recommendations of a professional:
Antiviruses do not help against modern malicious code. Just do not enter your passwords on unsafe sites!

I hope you will be prudent.
Bye.

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Hello!

My nickname in darknet is matthias57.
I hacked this mailbox more than six months ago,
through it I infected your operating system with a virus (trojan) created by me and have been monitoring you for a long time.

If you don't belive me please check 'from address' in your header, you will see that I sent you an email from your mailbox.

Even if you changed the password after that - it does not matter, my virus intercepted all the caching data on your computer
and automatically saved access for me.

I have access to all your accounts, social networks, email, browsing history.
Accordingly, I have the data of all your contacts, files from your computer, photos and videos.

I was most struck by the intimate content sites that you occasionally visit.
You have a very wild imagination, I tell you!

During your pastime and entertainment there, I took screenshot through the camera of your device, synchronizing with what you are watching.
Oh my god! You are so funny and excited!

I think that you do not want all your contacts to get these files, right?
If you are of the same opinion, then I think that $538 is quite a fair price to destroy the dirt I created.

Send the above amount on my BTC wallet (bitcoin): 19D67Tgb3neJiTHd8pZDEBYmUn2qSjxEeB
As soon as the above amount is received, I guarantee that the data will be deleted, I do not need it.

Otherwise, these files and history of visiting sites will get all your contacts from your device.
Also, I'll send to everyone your contact access to your email and access logs, I have carefully saved it!

Since reading this letter you have 50 hours!
After your reading this message, I'll receive an automatic notification that you have seen the letter.

I hope I taught you a good lesson.
Do not be so nonchalant, please visit only to proven resources, and don't enter your passwords anywhere!
Good luck!

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Hello!

I am very sorry for the trouble and for this letter!
But I have no other choice!

My name is Narges, I am transgender and live in Iran.
It's no secret that Iran is the most homophobic country in the world.
Representatives of LGBT communities are criminally prosecuted in our country and hated fiercely.
They can even be executed in public.

In our country, a real hell for homosexuals.

In remote areas of the country, LGBT people are beaten, tortured, raped and even executed with shocking regularity.
Thanks to a 1987 bill that legalized sexual change,
parents of homosexual children regularly force them to undergo hormonal treatment against their will,
and for the sex change operation, local bandits kill.

Recently, my beloved Gul was kidnapped by police and asked for a ransom, otherwise she would face a death penalty (before that she had already been lashed).

These scum are asking for 25 thousand dollars.

I ask all LGBT people and just kind people to help us in this trouble.
I want to redeem my beloved and flee from this damned country to civilization, where we can live in peace!

Every dollar is important to us, help as much as you can!
If suddenly everything works out, then I plan to fight this situation in Iran and make an LGBT fund for compatriots.

My friend is a programmer. He advised me to write and send this email to different people and ask for money in bitcoins.
Since it is absolutely anonymous for me and for you.
He also said that it is very easy to replenish.

Here is my btc wallet (if your really ready): bc1qlq7z2xy4tw0wd46lnsexq9fgqquuryus2x5txw

Peace to your home.
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