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December 30, 2017, 05:22:54 PM

You're not a true HODLer until you've been branded by the valley of -50% returns at least once.  Kiss

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Over 4 years of hodling and I’m not a hodler?? WTF!!!!
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December 30, 2017, 05:28:54 PM

Ripple is actually quite decentralized nowadays. You can inform yourself here: https://ripple.com/dev-blog/decentralization-strategy-update/  And now to totally piss you off: what do you think about this:
https://i.imgur.com/UMosX0E.png ?

Is this 'not' centralized?
Ok, that was funny. You can't even mine this XRP stuff. With other words your pie chart for 'XRP Ledger' would show 100% Ripple Lab Inc. You mix things up. And yes, next time use at least a pie chart with current data...

Well, if you want to call mining a prerequisite for determining whether one could speak of centralized or decentralized, then I think we are done talking.
The hard cold fact remains that any 'decentralization' within BTC died as soon as ASICS were introduced.  And honestly, I think you know this as well - but consciously decide to ignore this.

A few large mining farms in the BTC sphere working together can  pretty much do what they want. If you still want to call that decentralized, go right ahead.
You brought the mining topic up to show us 'believers' how 'decentralized' your favorite altcoin is. I personally don't like the current level of BTC mining 'centralization' or 'decentralization' but prefer it to more centralized chains (e.g. VerWuCoin) or premined business models (e.g. XRP)... Not sure what separates the last from a central bank. Roll Eyes If you prefer a central bank token, stay with Ripple Lab Inc.
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You're not a true HODLer until you've been branded by the valley of -50% returns at least once.  Kiss

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It's less than 30 days ago since it was below $10000. A few months in a $10000 to $20000 range would be healthy for the long term price. Nothing can keep doubling in price every two weeks forever. Gains like that are unsustainable.

Yep. 29 days since the last $10k doubling floor was established, if we don't breach it. From $5k to $10k was only 50 days, floor to floor. We still have until mid January for the $20k floor to be on pace with the previous doubling. I wouldn't complain if it took 70 or 90 days instead. Still looks healthy to me.

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December 30, 2017, 05:37:11 PM

Well that s not what I expected to wake up to...
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December 30, 2017, 05:37:39 PM

Interesting that the majority feels price will be at 20-22k by the 31st....
I'm still calling $20000 by new year Smiley
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December 30, 2017, 05:45:12 PM

You're not a true HODLer until you've been branded by the valley of -50% returns at least once.  Kiss

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Over 4 years of hodling and I’m not a hodler?? WTF!!!!

Ok you get a special brand. Which cheek do you prefer?  Grin
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December 30, 2017, 05:48:16 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/stunning-look-inside-world-south-koreas-bitcoin-zombies

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In fact, according to a recent study, more than 3 in 10 salaried workers in South Korea have invested in one or more cryptos.

And the sole reason why bitcoin remains an unprecedented investment craze even as hackers have stolen millions, lawmakers are pushing for new taxes and regulations, and leading financial officials have called it a “Ponzi scheme" is that - so far at least - it has been the best investment for virtually anyone who has bought it: the S.Korean survey (which polled 941 people via email from Dec. 19 to 20, with about 80% of respondents in their 20s and 30s) revealed that of those who invested in cryptos, more than 80% made money from it, and about 20% made an average return of 425% on their investment. The average Korean investor owned some 5.66 million won ($5,260) in virtual currencies.

It's 1 country and ready to follow the mathematic path of TrustNet.

Network centric trust : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWfpxB3HZOY
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oh that snap back....tasty..
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December 30, 2017, 05:53:40 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/stunning-look-inside-world-south-koreas-bitcoin-zombies

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In fact, according to a recent study, more than 3 in 10 salaried workers in South Korea have invested in one or more cryptos.

And the sole reason why bitcoin remains an unprecedented investment craze even as hackers have stolen millions, lawmakers are pushing for new taxes and regulations, and leading financial officials have called it a “Ponzi scheme" is that - so far at least - it has been the best investment for virtually anyone who has bought it: the S.Korean survey (which polled 941 people via email from Dec. 19 to 20, with about 80% of respondents in their 20s and 30s) revealed that of those who invested in cryptos, more than 80% made money from it, and about 20% made an average return of 425% on their investment. The average Korean investor owned some 5.66 million won ($5,260) in virtual currencies.

It's 1 country and ready to follow the mathematic path of TrustNet.

Network centric trust : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWfpxB3HZOY

941 people by email? what type of moron would base an article and brand a whole country's market on a pollling method like that?
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In fact, according to -snip-

It's 1 country and ready to follow the mathematic path of TrustNet.

Network centric trust : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWfpxB3HZOY

941 people by email? what type of moron would base an article and brand a whole country's market on a pollling method like that?

Oh boy...should we count the ways?  Mainstream media sheeple duh...
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December 30, 2017, 06:01:57 PM

13K held pretty well on gdax. Bearfinex last (and costly for the bears) attempt to panic the hodlers.  Tongue

You make it sound like we are done for the day (or the hour)  Grin

yep not done <13k now

I don't know how low it's goin I'll just when we have bottomed

Yep, 13K retested by the stubborn bears. Again very costly move. Their time is running out and they know it.  
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December 30, 2017, 06:04:52 PM

Interesting that the majority feels price will be at 20-22k by the 31st....
I'm still calling $20000 by new year Smiley

No way.

By end of January 2018 at earliest.
so much negativity about. just keeping it positive mate
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December 30, 2017, 06:21:48 PM

so much negativity about. just keeping it positive mate

I'm soaked in gasoline with a naked flame at the other end of my bunker. I'm just waiting for a certain price and then I'm leaping into it.
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December 30, 2017, 06:26:07 PM

Interesting that the majority feels price will be at 20-22k by the 31st....
I'm still calling $20000 by new year Smiley

Maybe the Chinese New Year?
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December 30, 2017, 06:26:17 PM

ugh

anybody still got any 1366 stuff laying around?  memory VRs went away in my #2 box last night  Embarrassed
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December 30, 2017, 06:42:29 PM

so much negativity about. just keeping it positive mate

I'm soaked in gasoline with a naked flame at the other end of my bunker. I'm just waiting for a certain price and then I'm leaping into it.

Today an order to sell the bunch of Stellars that I got for free as a bitcoinaire got executed at the absolute top, so I recovered almost a 3% of the total value of my btc. Against negativity try to cash in some shitfork dividends.
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December 30, 2017, 06:44:14 PM

Today an order to sell the bunch of Stellars that I got for free as a bitcoinaire got executed at the absolute top, so I recovered almost a 3% of the total value of my btc. Against negativity try to cash in some shitfork dividends.

No. Death is now the only way out. With lots of shrieking, smoke and burning pork smells.
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Today an order to sell the bunch of Stellars that I got for free as a bitcoinaire got executed at the absolute top, so I recovered almost a 3% of the total value of my btc. Against negativity try to cash in some shitfork dividends.

No. Death is now the only way out. With lots of shrieking, smoke and burning pork smells.


Will the bunker be available after?  I have a stellar cleaning crew...i'm sure I can make use of it.    Grin
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December 30, 2017, 06:51:21 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-29/stunning-look-inside-world-south-koreas-bitcoin-zombies

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Lee Nak-yeon expressed concerns over Korea’s bitcoin craze, warning  that “young people and students are rushing into virtual currency trading to earn huge profits in just a short period of time,” and that “it is time for the government to take action as it could lead to serious pathological phenomena if left unchecked" forcing young people into illegal activities like drug dealing.

 Roll Eyes same rhetoric.

people can earn power ... and state don't want that.
power is money in society.

for now.
for Bitcoin, it's good.

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Make no mistake: it's a countrywide craze: “I no longer want to become a math teacher,” said 23-year-old Eoh Kyong-hoon, who founded the club, Cryptofactor. "I’ve studied this industry for more than 10 hours a day over months, and I became pretty sure that this is my future."
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