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Question: When will we see a new ATH? (Credit to: Biodom)
2019 - 14 (8.6%)
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Late 2020 - 50 (30.9%)
Early 2021 - 14 (8.6%)
Late 2021 - 26 (16%)
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2023 - 0 (0%)
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After 2024 - 3 (1.9%)
Never - 12 (7.4%)
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February 14, 2018, 04:31:57 PM

Volume surging. Buckle up gents, I have reason to believe it will be a long, choo-choo weekend.

Could be this or could be some news coming (good or bad).
At some point I do expect some SEC, three letter etc "stuff".
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February 14, 2018, 04:34:41 PM


Inverse head and shoulders breaking out on the 1 hr. Choo choo!

Nice symmetry on the shoulders.

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February 14, 2018, 04:35:05 PM

Is that it? Correction over?
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February 14, 2018, 04:36:39 PM

Ok, back to the party.

What a day, all my main alts skyrocketing AND BTC finally over support line. I needed this. Let's fucking GOOOOO!

Dang it. All my alts sucks, total alt bank lost 17% btc value Sad

I really can't fathom what kind of alts you may be into. Not sure it would even be a good idea to ask either.

Hope that at least this BTC surge is more than enough to cover your "alt" loses. If it isn't, maybe your portfolio is not very well balanced to the BTC side as it should.
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February 14, 2018, 04:38:56 PM

Is that it? Correction over?

Q1 stock RSUs vest tomorrow, and become available for sale early next week.

Additionally, Q1 bonuses are paid out early March.

Expect buying pressure next week.

EDIT: accuracy stuff
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February 14, 2018, 04:39:30 PM

Ok, back to the party.

What a day, all my main alts skyrocketing AND BTC finally over support line. I needed this. Let's fucking GOOOOO!

Dang it. All my alts sucks, total alt bank lost 17% btc value Sad

I really can't fathom what kind of alts you may be into. Not sure it would even be a good idea to ask either.

Hope that at least the BTC surge is more than enough to cover your "alt" loses.

Oh yeah I don't worry at all, just invested like 10% of my btc in alts. (And invested nothing in btc in the first place so I'm feeling quite free to experiment stuff)
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February 14, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
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Inverse head and shoulders breaking out on the 1 hr. Choo choo!

Nice symmetry on the shoulders.



With all that liquidity just waiting to get into the game, I am reminded of something like this:




What the big boy's are thinking when trying to enter the Crypto market unnoticed.
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February 14, 2018, 04:45:28 PM

I really can't fathom what kind of alts you may be into.

Perhaps Silver?  Grin
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February 14, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we've held last night's gains and we're still over $9k... currently $9288USD/$11733CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It was just a year ago we were trying to get back up to 4 digits after a winter (northern hemisphere) dip down to 3 digits. Now we're looking at getting back to 5 digits after a winter dip down to 4.

Last year we had to wait until March to finally leave 3 digits behind for good. Will we be able to get it done earlier this year?

4 digits is getting boring. C'mon spring, don't be late.
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February 14, 2018, 04:55:10 PM

Is that it? Correction over?

Q1 stock RSUs vest tomorrow, and become available for sale early next week.

Additionally, Q1 bonuses are paid out early March.

Expect buying pressure next week.

EDIT: accuracy stuff

Does this mean it’s safe for me to leave my crypto bunker? I had resigned myself to a repeat of 2014... (shudder)
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February 14, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we've held last night's gains and we're still over $9k... currently $9288USD/$11733CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It was just a year ago we were trying to get back up to 4 digits after a winter (northern hemisphere) dip down to 3 digits. Now we're looking at getting back to 5 digits after a winter dip down to 4.

Last year we had to wait until March to finally leave 3 digits behind for good. Will we be able to get it done earlier this year?

4 digits is getting boring. C'mon spring, don't be late.

Jimbo. I sent you my last spendable Merit for always being cheerful. See what happened when you left for a holiday... all hell broke loose. I’m glad you’re back.
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February 14, 2018, 05:08:27 PM
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Good thing anonymous blockchains will keep developing alongside.
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February 14, 2018, 05:18:06 PM


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February 14, 2018, 05:33:46 PM

After BTC dumped so hard, it was just a matter oft time until BCH started trying to overtake again. It is rather probable that this pump is just starting and could geht BCH close to 1:1 for BTC with current weakness and high amount oft free capital!
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February 14, 2018, 05:34:43 PM

-chart-

what do we see here? please comment your chart for newbies like me.

The corn poppeth.
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February 14, 2018, 05:37:45 PM

Aaaand I tried to surf on the ltc/btc spike. GOD I'M SO BAD AT SWING TRADING
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February 14, 2018, 05:41:51 PM

“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” Orwell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4592&v=Uyt0-QXLXtA
Lecture by Agustín Carstens, General Manager of the Bank for International Settlements

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February 14, 2018, 05:43:29 PM

Goodmorning everyone. All those crushed bull souls are looking much better today
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February 14, 2018, 05:48:42 PM

Good thing anonymous blockchains will keep developing alongside.

There are only two viable outcomes:

1)  Either a non-fungible currency (like bitcoin) survives and since it's impossible to create a decentralized digital currency where transaction validators don't centralize through compound interest, economy of scale, or other means, the state then co-opts it and turns it into their desired cashless society slave system.

or

2)  An anonymous, fungible cryptocurrency like Monero wins and causes the state to collapse because they are unable to extract and seize enough funds to keep their police state running.

However, Monero would centralize just like bitcoin and doesn't scale to defeat the state anyway (neither does bitcoin or LN), so all this crap is going to be in the end is a giant bait and switch where the govt uses this garbage to lure you in then mandates you use their federated chain instead.  They will probably just pass laws labeling all lightning nodes as money transmitters and make the costs and regulations so onerous nobody can do so except people like Goldman Sachs, then they've transported you right back into the same master/slave system as before and can also de-link from bitcoin if they want.

As for Lightning Network, it is completely useless to make bitcoin mainstream for everyday transactions without turning it into a replica of the current banking system (hub and spoke model) where you have several large nodes with thousands of slaves (you) connected to them and you're required to go through them for all transactions.  All roads in cryptocurrency lead to slavery.  There is no reason to support ANY of this garbage over physical silver as money.

You are all just fucking idiots trying to sell out humanity to make a few dollars off a pump and dump just like Judas.  The sad part is you can make as much or more money by supporting physical silver instead.  You're just allowing the bankers to bait you into supporting this scam because they've temporarily made it seem more enticing.
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February 14, 2018, 05:56:11 PM

1)  Neither Jbreher nor I were referring to chained orders because we manually set our orders after they fill.  We were talking more about incremental order setting or step setting.

True dat.

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Yes. Buy low, sell high. At all times. Incrementally.

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3) The whole system is not a wash because you are able to either buy more BTC with the same amount of money or accumulate more money by the size of your orders.  If you keep the exact BTC amounts, then you accumulate dollars; if you keep the same dollar amounts then you accumulate BTC (or you can do some combination of the two).

Yes.

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4)  The larger your amounts that you are trading, the more that you can notice that you are making money, [see 4b below].  Of course, there is no free lunch because there is risk on both ends.  The larger your amounts that you are trading the more likely you could end up running out of money or btc when the price over shoots

Yeppers.

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4b)  and the larger your increments, the more that you make money too.  

No. In general, cutting your interval in half (with a corresponding BTC per interval cut in half) will result in better performance. This is because the volatility will result in additional trades that swing the smaller interval, but don't reach the larger interval. At the limit where volatility is small enough to result in zero additional trades for the smaller interval, the smaller and the larger interval will perform identically. The tradeoff for the smaller interval size is trade fees (none for maker on GDAX), and the amount of time required to manage the system.

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5) I tend to recommend to folks to begin by setting your price increments really tight

Or really loose so you don't succumb to panic in the face of the occasional bout of ludicrous volatility. And there will be occasional panic when your are getting accustomed to the system. Your choice.

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7) Even Jbreher and i have had little skirmishes about the "right" practice

Meh. From what I can gather, we are using systems that are essentially identical, though we have chosen different values for the parameters. (Incidentally, 'skirmishes'? Far be it from me to tell you how to run your biz.)

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You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.

I don't think that "remove" is the correct word choice.  I find that when I am playing this whole system and it is going smoothly, then I am never really removing anything, but I am just adding.  Once a buy order executes, then I add a sell order at a higher USD price, and once a sell order executes, then I add a buy order at a lower USD price.

Yes. With the underlined amplification above. Indeed, this is the reason for the aforementioned two-price-interval gap between your standing buys and your standing sells.

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On that same point, I tend to let the price come to me,

Yes. Note that on GDAX, trades are free to the maker.

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You really win on each one,

You win on each buy&sell pair (or sell&buy pair - however you want to think about it)

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and the bigger your amounts the bigger your wins.  

Well, the larger each win. But you'll have less wins than if you are using a smaller increment. Indeed, the larger increment can do no better in any case than the smaller interval. See 4b above.

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However, I frequently describe this whole process as stacking and a kind of insurance that really takes a lot of stress out of downside volatility ...
it does not do service to the whole system if you increase the amounts too much in the beginning and you end up running out of money because you over did the situation

Yes and yes.
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