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[cAPSLOCK]

EU hearing press release is largely very positive and balanced, only this piece they will need to explain to me : "wallet providers should be subject to the Anti-Money Laundering Directive."

Are they not aware that you can just build your software from code?  Will anybody that ever coded a feature for wallet software need to do AML for the entire world population?  Square peg, meet round hole...

In their parlance "Wallet providers" are the equivalent of "banks".

Coinbase, for example.  The wallet part...

[HairyMaclairy]

Don’t get too excited.  

We are still below the line and the shorts are strong.  

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I'm starting to get excited about the recent price action!

Wake me up when we get back to 14 - 15 thou

[jbreher]

OTH it is somewhat ironic you talk about destroying Bitcoin (which I do fully agree with you in this case about an unjustified and UNCONSENSUATED PoW change) considering your support to BCH.

No irony intended. Contrary to popular misrepresentation, those behind Bitcoin Cash are fully faithful to Bitcoin. We simply prefer larger blocks rather than the Segwit poison pill.

[El duderino_]

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UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

[STT]

Don’t get too excited.  

We are still below the line and the shorts are strong.  

I find it hard to measure strength without one exchange. 10,441 could be a fib level to cap this with 9231 the alternate side.  Quite constricted by BTC standards.

However longer term its seems quite positive action.   The downtrend would be in deference to this longer uptrend I guess


I see a big bar appear like that occurring right across a trend, I count it as marking out the trend as still in play.

[Torque]

Honestly if Circle suddenly wants back into the crypto game by buying Poloniex, then they must think that they are going to make a killing in the future. And fyi Circle is partially owned by Goldman Sachs.

Something big is coming.

[bitserve]

Honestly if Circle suddenly wants back into the crypto game by buying Poloniex, then they must think that they are going to make a killing in the future. And fyi Circle is partially owned by Goldman Sachs.

Something big is coming.

But... at only $400 million it is a steal. The only thing I can think that explains the deal it is that Poloniex owners have already made a killing and just want to exit with their asses fully covered (the contract will probably show that).

What I mean is that it is not like they had paid 10 billion (Instagram) or something like that which would clearly represent their willingness to have some REAL skin in the game.

I consider it "somewhat" bullish though... but not terribly bullish.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Something big is coming.

Probably another Alien Revelation.

... is that big?

[vanobe]

Don’t get too excited.  

We are still below the line and the shorts are strong.  

I find it hard to measure strength without one exchange. 10,441 could be a fib level to cap this with 9231 the alternate side.

How do you work out a fib level, and why's 10,441 not definitely a fib level?

[Biodom]

Honestly if Circle suddenly wants back into the crypto game by buying Poloniex, then they must think that they are going to make a killing in the future. And fyi Circle is partially owned by Goldman Sachs.

Something big is coming.

But... at only $400 million it is a steal. The only thing I can think that explains the deal it is that Poloniex owners have already made a killing and just want to exit with their asses fully covered (the contract will probably show that).

What I mean is that it is not like they had paid 10 billion (Instagram) or something like that which would clearly represent their willingness to have some REAL skin in the game.

I consider it "somewhat" bullish though... but not terribly bullish.

I agree, what is $400 mil when, according to rumors, they had $250 mil in revenue last quarter.
With lots of customer complains (although I liked their trading interface), they brought it as far as they could, possibly.
Now Circle will muck it up with stupid tries of "upsell".

[RoomBot]

QUIT your dirty dollar habit with BTC

It's War-Free!

[bitserve]

Honestly if Circle suddenly wants back into the crypto game by buying Poloniex, then they must think that they are going to make a killing in the future. And fyi Circle is partially owned by Goldman Sachs.

Something big is coming.

But... at only $400 million it is a steal. The only thing I can think that explains the deal it is that Poloniex owners have already made a killing and just want to exit with their asses fully covered (the contract will probably show that).

What I mean is that it is not like they had paid 10 billion (Instagram) or something like that which would clearly represent their willingness to have some REAL skin in the game.

I consider it "somewhat" bullish though... but not terribly bullish.

I agree, what is $400 mil when, according to rumors, they had $250 mil revenue last quarter.
With lots of customer complains (although I liked their trading interface), they brought it as far as they could, possibly.
Now Circle will muck it up with stupid tries of "upsell".

Revenue is not profit but, a standard way to calculate the (fundamental) value of a business is the accumulated past and expected profit for the next 20 years (in traditional sectors). In high risk sectors like crypto that can be reduced to much less though, ie: 10 years.

Any way it is calculated, it seems that $400 million for Polo is a bargain... but we don't really know the details of the contract nor the real sell price. It's just all rumors.

[Biodom]

Honestly if Circle suddenly wants back into the crypto game by buying Poloniex, then they must think that they are going to make a killing in the future. And fyi Circle is partially owned by Goldman Sachs.

Something big is coming.

But... at only $400 million it is a steal. The only thing I can think that explains the deal it is that Poloniex owners have already made a killing and just want to exit with their asses fully covered (the contract will probably show that).

What I mean is that it is not like they had paid 10 billion (Instagram) or something like that which would clearly represent their willingness to have some REAL skin in the game.

I consider it "somewhat" bullish though... but not terribly bullish.

I agree, what is $400 mil when, according to rumors, they had $250 mil revenue last quarter.
With lots of customer complains (although I liked their trading interface), they brought it as far as they could, possibly.
Now Circle will muck it up with stupid tries of "upsell".

Revenue is not profit but, a standard way to calculate the (fundamental) value of a business is the accumulated past and expected profit for the next 20 years (in traditional sectors). In high risk sectors like crypto that can be reduced to much less though, ie: 10 years.

Any way it is calculated, it seems that $400 million for Polo is a bargain... but we don't really know the details of the contract nor the real sell price. It's just all rumors.

thanks for the lecture :/
I am sure they have a hefty profit margin.

[yefi]

The thing is none of those addresses include, obviously, the virgin blocks (never moved) presumably mined by satoshi.

All the accusation seems to have been based on documentation and testimony provided by Wright, which has a track of compulsive lies and forging of documents.

The plot thickens.

This is the most ridiculous thing about it. They claim it's undeniable that they were involved since the inception, but it's all based on evidence (I use the word loosely) brought forth by Wright, a man whom they even accuse of forging and backdating documents.

[bitserve]

The thing is none of those addresses include, obviously, the virgin blocks (never moved) presumably mined by satoshi.

All the accusation seems to have been based on documentation and testimony provided by Wright, which has a track of compulsive lies and forging of documents.

The plot thickens.

This is the most ridiculous thing about it. They claim it's undeniable that they were involved since the inception, but it's all based on evidence (I use the word loosely) brought forth by Wright, a man whom they even accuse of forging and backdating documents.

Yup. It has some clear basis on the claim over IP though (we positively do know that Wright has registered a lot of patents that presumably come from the joint effort of the two through one of the business). But... the Bitcoins? Donno. They are not the Bitcoins we always thought belonged to Satoshi, but different ones. OTH, It makes some sense to try to claim a compensation based only on Wright own admissions (either true or not). Let's see what he has to say when the trial comes....

I wonder if popcorn futures are rising due to continuous Bitcoin drama.

[HairyMaclairy]

Craig is a clown and best ignored as nothing he has said or done will be shown to be of any consequence. 

[bitserve]

Craig is a clown and best ignored as nothing he has said or done will be shown to be of any consequence.  

Oh, there will be a consequence of all this. He will either come out OFFICIALLY as a lier fraudster or as a thief fraudster. Or all the above. There's no way out of this for him.

[vanobe]

Craig is a clown and best ignored as nothing he has said or done will be shown to be of any consequence. 

Oh, there will be a consequence of all this. He will either come out OFFICIALLY as a lier fraudster or a thief fraudster. Or all the above. There's no way out of this for him.

The court case will probably drag on for years, and he can keep bullshitting until it's over.

[smartcomet]

nice picture,+1 Merit.

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