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[conspirosphere.tk]

I suspect this dump is caused by Venezuelas president Maduro dumping his BTC for $$$

In case you did not know he is desperate for $$ since his state-owned oil company are now in default on about US$1.7 billion.
Todays 738 million pre-ico sale of his petro coin has given him enough money to begin the bail out that will prevent further economic collapse of his government.

I dont think that Maduro will be an honest president and use this money as he claims, to help the country.  Expect further dumps from this idioT!

Who could be so stupid to buy 738 millions$ of Madurocoins and pay for them in BTC?
It's a whole new level of stupid.

[bitserve]

I suspect this dump is caused by Venezuelas president Maduro dumping his BTC for $$$

In case you did not know he is desperate for $$ since his state-owned oil company are now in default on about US$1.7 billion.
Todays 738 million pre-ico sale of his petro coin has given him enough money to begin the bail out that will prevent further economic collapse of his government.

I dont think that Maduro will be an honest president and use this money as he claims, to help the country.  Expect further dumps from this idioT!

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.

There is no way to prevent the economic collapse of Venezuela, no matter what they do, even if they were (they aren't) exceptionally good managers from now on. It is way beyond possible recovery. The only thing they can do is prolong the agony at the cost of its citizens suffering. The sooner it finally implodes, the better.

The "petro" will be a shitshow worth watching with a good dose of popcorns.

P.S.: $735 million from Petro ICO pre-sale? I call BULLSHIT on that.

[HairyMaclairy]

I suspect this dump is caused by Venezuelas president Maduro dumping his BTC for $$$

In case you did not know he is desperate for $$ since his state-owned oil company are now in default on about US$1.7 billion.
Todays 738 million pre-ico sale of his petro coin has given him enough money to begin the bail out that will prevent further economic collapse of his government.

I dont think that Maduro will be an honest president and use this money as he claims, to help the country.  Expect further dumps from this idioT!

Who could be so stupid to buy 738 millions$ of Madurocoins and pay for them in BTC?
It's a whole new level of stupid.

Pre-sale is probably a wash. 

[RayX12]

I suspect this dump is caused by Venezuelas president Maduro dumping his BTC for $$$

In case you did not know he is desperate for $$ since his state-owned oil company are now in default on about US$1.7 billion.
Todays 738 million pre-ico sale of his petro coin has given him enough money to begin the bail out that will prevent further economic collapse of his government.

I dont think that Maduro will be an honest president and use this money as he claims, to help the country.  Expect further dumps from this idioT!

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.

There is no way to prevent the economic collapse of Venezuela, no matter what they do, even if they were (they aren't) exceptionally good managers from now on. It is way beyond possible recovery. The only thing they can do is prolong the agony at the cost of its citizens suffering. The sooner it finally implodes, the better.

The "petro" will be a shitshow worth watching with a good dose of popcorns.

P.S.: $735 million from Petro ICO pre-sale? I call BULLSHIT on that.

Watch this report by Bitcoin Meister (World Crypto Network):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTO1bWzX6M

[explorer]

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.

I disagree.  I see no forward thinking at all coming from that direction.  Only current/immediate_future greed.

[RayX12]

I don't think Venezuela has any BTC and IF it had (maybe seized from the good venezuelan people) he/they would not dump it for US to use for the country but just hide it somewhere for their own personal use in the future.

I disagree.  I see no forward thinking at all coming from that direction.  Only current/immediate_future greed.

Here is another interesting report.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVk8SKWvTM

It is hard to believe who would have bought this shit coin?  
He plans to sell it to Venezuelan people in the official ICO.  

edit: read this as well:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/venezuela-petro-cryptocurrency-180219065112440.html

[RayX12]

Here you can buy some Petro..
Have White paper and all!!

http://elpetro.gob.ve/index-en.html

edit:  wiki is here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_(cryptocurrency)

[JayJuanGee]

If Bitcoin didn't die in 2014 it won't now. Really wondering what will be the price after the next halving. It will be a long bumpy road for sure, and we will have many "war's casualties" that won't make it until then.

Other than that... Yep, Bitcoin is dead again.

Looking like it.


sad


and


Doom...


 

[JayJuanGee]

Here we go again next stop 9k

Like I said, I'm buying drinks for the thread if we see it touch the $8k's again this year.

Too much resistance support down to $9k.

I don't see it happening.

Beer-filled gut-bacteria tells me things will even out around $9.5k before resuming upward momentum.

FTFY:   Just for definitional sakes (and clarity)... going down there is support and going up there is resistance.

[User705]

with every fork on bitcoin the inflation rate is doubled, if they can lockstep the alt-fork coin prices to bitcoins they have pulled off a very effective dilution strategy to thwart bitcoins powerful deflationary attraction forces ... until bitcoin price dumps hard to purge the parasite bastards

With every fork, forks become increasingly meaningless...

Not quite.  While the whole “they” thing is spurious the fork problem is one of the few potential bitcoin issues.  With every fork a dichotomy arises.  Yes you can ignore them but that means value can be created from nothing.  That doesn’t quite make sense but in order to drop the price someone has to sell and someone has to buy and the moment that happens technically the value of the fork is a direct deduction on the value of bitcoin. That’s not to mention the issues of limited space on the original chain but unlimited space on the others.

[conspirosphere.tk]

with every fork on bitcoin the inflation rate is doubled, if they can lockstep the alt-fork coin prices to bitcoins they have pulled off a very effective dilution strategy to thwart bitcoins powerful deflationary attraction forces ... until bitcoin price dumps hard to purge the parasite bastards

With every fork, forks become increasingly meaningless...

Not quite.  While the whole “they” thing is spurious the fork problem is one of the few potential bitcoin issues.  With every fork a dichotomy arises.  Yes you can ignore them but that means value can be created from nothing.  That doesn’t quite make sense but in order to drop the price someone has to sell and someone has to buy and the moment that happens technically the value of the fork is a direct deduction on the value of bitcoin. That’s not to mention the issues of limited space on the original chain but unlimited space on the others.

After bitgold the subsequent forks have practically no value and are not traded on any decent exchange. They can't even be deposited on the few dubious exchanges where they are listed so they are not even worth of being splitted and practically do not exist, just 2-bit shitcoins.
https://btcdiv.com

I may be more impressed by some new alt with new bells and whistles.
And the limited space is a market too. Nothing is free.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Ok question for the snowbirds. I know you're here. Is Quadrigacx above board? I have no reason to doubt they are, but I've never trusted them before with large amounts.

[Neo_Coin]

[bones261]

I'm not sure if I should pull some of my top bids and hope for lower.   I want to get a good price, but I don't want to try catching falling knives either. Perhaps I should just pull all my bids. There is a superstition that one should never gamble on their birthday. Although, it is not quite my birthday in my part of the world, yet. However, it is Friday for most of the world now.

[jojo69]

something something pennies steamrollers

[moneyForjam]

I'm not sure if I should pull some of my top bids and hope for lower.   I want to get a good price, but I don't want to try catching falling knives either. Perhaps I should just pull all my bids. There is a superstition that one should never gamble on their birthday. Although, it is not quite my birthday in my part of the world, yet. However, it is Friday for most of the world now.

I just brought 9655

[JayJuanGee]

Here we go again next stop 9k

Like I said, I'm buying drinks for the thread if we see it touch the $8k's again this year.

Too much resistance down to $9k.

I don't see it happening.

Beer-filled gut-bacteria tells me things will even out around $9.5k before resuming upward momentum.

Below 9,000$ is still possible, there are 2 scenarios I see on Bitcoin going down. The first scenario is Bitcoin will for a right shoulder with its lowest price at 9,200$, the 2nd scenario is 9,200$ is broken and it will continue to what people are calling the real 5th wave which is around the 4,500$ level. Right now I am just observing the prices as my money is still in Fiat so I am comfortable to what is happening to Bitcoin. Hopefully this will be the last dip of the year as I know a lot of people have stacked up their position by now.

I understand that if the price breaks below $9,200, then you are going to wait to buy in the $4,500 price arena, maybe you would buy above $5k, just to be safe, right?

On the other hand, if the price does not break below $9,200, then at what point would you get back in, if at all?


By the way, you may have already seen my posts on this topic, and personally I doubt that breaking below $9k is going to give you clear sailing down to $4,500 or points just above that because there seem to be pretty decent odds that there is going to be decent support at $8k and $7k... so you gotta get past that support first, in my humble bumble opinion.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I'm not sure if I should pull some of my top bids and hope for lower.   I want to get a good price, but I don't want to try catching falling knives either. Perhaps I should just pull all my bids. There is a superstition that one should never gamble on their birthday. Although, it is not quite my birthday in my part of the world, yet. However, it is Friday for most of the world now.

Never heard of that one. Happy birthday!

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Here we go again next stop 9k

Like I said, I'm buying drinks for the thread if we see it touch the $8k's again this year.

Too much resistance down to $9k.

I don't see it happening.

Beer-filled gut-bacteria tells me things will even out around $9.5k before resuming upward momentum.

Below 9,000$ is still possible, there are 2 scenarios I see on Bitcoin going down. The first scenario is Bitcoin will for a right shoulder with its lowest price at 9,200$, the 2nd scenario is 9,200$ is broken and it will continue to what people are calling the real 5th wave which is around the 4,500$ level. Right now I am just observing the prices as my money is still in Fiat so I am comfortable to what is happening to Bitcoin. Hopefully this will be the last dip of the year as I know a lot of people have stacked up their position by now.

I understand that if the price breaks below $9,200, then you are going to wait to buy in the $4,500 price arena, maybe you would buy above $5k, just to be safe, right?

On the other hand, if the price does not break below $9,200, then at what point would you get back in, if at all?


By the way, you may have already seen my posts on this topic, and personally I doubt that breaking below $9k is going to give you clear sailing down to $4,500 or points just above that because there seem to be pretty decent odds that there is going to be decent support at $8k and $7k... so you gotta get past that support first, in my humble bumble opinion.

We stopped in the $6,100 range the last time around too, so you're definitely right about the additional supports below $9,200.

[explorer]

Ok question for the snowbirds. I know you're here. Is Quadrigacx above board? I have no reason to doubt they are, but I've never trusted then before with large amounts.

I've used them for a few years with no major issues.  Banking is always a problem, but they keep managing to find new ways, so I expect that to continue.