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March 09, 2018, 06:04:20 PM

the IRS started sending out letters to Coinbase users telling them coins they bought for pennies require thousands of dollars in taxes on even if they used the coins to do something like buy a pizza before the price went up.  

Do you have any evidence to go with with your assertion, or are you just doubling down on your fever dreams?

Probably about as much evidence as his delusional Jewish conspiracy nonsense....
Nothing delusional about his Jewish thoughts.
It's happening. Wake up.
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March 09, 2018, 06:08:58 PM

don't quote the roach

Do you have any evidence to go with with your assertion, or are you just doubling down on your fever dreams?

Probably about as much evidence as his delusional Jewish conspiracy nonsense....
Nothing delusional about his Jewish thoughts.
It's happening. Wake up.

you racetards just can't compete

quit blaming it on someone else
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March 09, 2018, 06:09:29 PM
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somebody want kill you becouse money ... only two nations do it..  and have it in dna...    one is old.. second is new from 1776....    Wink Cheesy
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I’ve been to Vegas twice & going in June for a third time, going shooting is one of my favourite hobbies over there.

Hve you been to Front Sight out in Pahrump? Highly recommended.

Not yet, might have to give it a go. The one I’ve done twice is called ‘Bullets & Burgers’ believe it or not.

No need to go to Las Vegas for that. Even in my country, despite its shitty weapon laws, you need no nothing to go to the ranch (as long as you don't want to own/carry a weapon). Just make a reservation, drop some cash and grab your gun, no shits given. Unfortunately we get no full autos but we have .50 BMGs  Grin.
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March 09, 2018, 06:13:46 PM
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No way could I ever work for somebody else now, been out on my own even without bitcoin for 10 years. I remember being 19/20 & being told to put the kettle on for an office full of people.
I remember being 5/10 minutes late for work a bunch of times & panicking about it.
 
I’d ratter die than go back to that kind of humiliating existence.

Me too. Been job-free for 42 years now.

I guess I'm lucky because my father was self-employed for as long as I can remember and so I wasn't brainwashed with the idea of a "regular job" since early childhood.
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When I was in kindergarten I was shown watercress growing wild in a creek in what is now a drained park in Toronto. I filled a 4 quart basket with cress and stopped by at the grocery store on my way home. I asked the owner if he wanted to sell it in his store.

He tasted it, remarked on its freshness (I just picked it!), divided it into 4 bunches held together with rubber bands, and said he'd give me 5 cents for 2 bunches. I got my first arithmetic lesson when he took 2 bunches and gave me a nickel and then repeated it, telling me I had 10 cents. I promptly spent half of it on candy, 3 for a penny of this, 4 for a penny of that.

When I got home, my parents were concerned about where I got the remaining nickel and the candy. When I told them, they were so proud of me, bringing home the bacon so to speak.

Later that day I went back for more candy and learned 2 more lessons. First I learned the hard way about spending your earnings too soon. Then when I saw only 3 bunches remaining with a price of 10 cents per bunch, I realized he had paid for the whole lot with just one sale and had 3 more to go.

That was my biggest lesson... retail markup and profit.
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March 09, 2018, 06:13:50 PM

don't quote the roach

Do you have any evidence to go with with your assertion, or are you just doubling down on your fever dreams?

Probably about as much evidence as his delusional Jewish conspiracy nonsense....
Nothing delusional about his Jewish thoughts.
It's happening. Wake up.

you racetards just can't compete

quit blaming it on someone else
like now usatards and bibi satan likud +il army blame Russians Chinese and other nations from asia :  or trottelson blame chinese becouse they help develop africa.. not like assholes from usa destroy ALL!!
YOU DONT LIKE TRUE ?!   HEA?!
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March 09, 2018, 06:15:06 PM


There's always one shitcoin pumping when bitcoin and all the other shitcoins are crashing. Today it's PACcoin getting a $696,354  pump on Cryptopia and YoBit. A few days ago it was Viacoin.




I agree with a comment earlier on that there's always one shitcoin pumping when bitcoin and all the other shitcoins are crashing. Viacoin was the last one.
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March 09, 2018, 06:15:17 PM

The market has reacted favorably imho to the open market selling by the MtGox trustee. Bitcoin has absorbed the selloffs with remarkable strength. Looks like things are headed towards a normal weekend of volatility for Bitcoin.

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March 09, 2018, 06:17:18 PM

I’ve been to Vegas twice & going in June for a third time, going shooting is one of my favourite hobbies over there.

Hve you been to Front Sight out in Pahrump? Highly recommended.

Not yet, might have to give it a go. The one I’ve done twice is called ‘Bullets & Burgers’ believe it or not.

Not aware of Bullets and Burgers. Vegas has quite a few 'fun time' ranges with stuff like full auto experience, etc.

Front Sight is a serious endeavour. It is considered by many as among the top firearms training academies worldwide. Their marketing techniques are laughably MMM- or Shamwow-esque, but they've got valuable instruction regardless of previous experience.

Oh, and of course, full auto too, if that be your interest.
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March 09, 2018, 06:20:09 PM

What is this PAC coin, 3rd in market cap???
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paccoin/

Three and a half trillion units in existence, somebody wash-traded a handful for less than two cents each

Nothing to see here.
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March 09, 2018, 06:23:36 PM

the IRS started sending out letters to Coinbase users telling them coins they bought for pennies require thousands of dollars in taxes on even if they used the coins to do something like buy a pizza before the price went up.  

Do you have any evidence to go with with your assertion, or are you just doubling down on your fever dreams?

Jim Rickards claims it was happening to people:

"But when K read the 1099, it got even worse. It showed that he owed $2.4 million in taxes, despite his estimate that he only put $8,000 into cryptos. K has decided to sit tight in the belief that he does not owe the taxes.  Big mistake."

It's not exactly hard to imagine the IRS doing something like that since they consider the burden of proof for everything you do to be on you.  We've talked about this issue before, that the govt will eventually try to make people prove they haven't spent the coins or making it illegal to hold your own private keys or something.  It shows how stupid people are to think using an Orwellian system like bitcoin where everything is monitored is a good idea.  All you're doing is creating a vast mountain of evidence for the govt where if you make one tiny mistake you're providing them the noose to hang you, and it will even be 100% automated at some point.

So yes, fuck bitcoin and all the idiot bugmen who promote it.  In your wildest dreams you cannot create a more tyrannical and Orwellian system than a non-fungible token where everything is monitored and transaction validators are designed to centralize turning it into a permissioned ledger.  That is not a system of freedom, it's a system of control.  The funny part is that even though it's the perfect tyrannical system, most of the upper level establishment figures and bankers don't like it since they're all criminals themselves and don't want to leave a permanent paper trail wide out in the open for everyone to see of their misdeeds.

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March 09, 2018, 06:25:44 PM

What is this PAC coin, 3rd in market cap???
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paccoin/

Three and a half trillion units in existence, somebody wash-traded a handful for less than two cents each

Nothing to see here.

nice publicity stunt for the coin I guess
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March 09, 2018, 06:32:32 PM

What is this PAC coin, 3rd in market cap???
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paccoin/

Three and a half trillion units in existence, somebody wash-traded a handful for less than two cents each

Nothing to see here.

Which is why people who claim the BTC market dominance percentage is a meaningful number or number that you should trade on are idiots.  Right now you have people claiming, oh, the BTC dominance percentage is low, it always bounces from here!  In reality, since the creation of altcoins is infinite, and you can hold a high market cap with only one penny on the buy side, it's impossible for the BTC market dominance percentage to go ANYWHERE but straight down.
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March 09, 2018, 06:34:37 PM

In my countys news, like an hour ago, they told us that even common objects like a pen are good to defend against an attacker with a knife, can you belive that? Good luck, lol. Can't make that shit up.

If all you have is a pen, it is better than bare-handed.

A pen has about the same cross-section as a knife. If you can grip it tight enough not to slip, it will stab just as deeply. Lack of a real handle makes gripping difficult, and of course there is no ability to slash. But the defensive mindset will be prepared to make use of any available tool.
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March 09, 2018, 06:35:33 PM

No way could I ever work for somebody else now, been out on my own even without bitcoin for 10 years. I remember being 19/20 & being told to put the kettle on for an office full of people.
I remember being 5/10 minutes late for work a bunch of times & panicking about it.
 
I’d ratter die than go back to that kind of humiliating existence.
Epic post Wink

Reading your words feels like reading a good book! You master your English so well and you are such an insightful person. And you hodl and buy the dips.
Grazie Jimbo
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March 09, 2018, 06:42:04 PM

Reading your words feels like reading a good book! You master your English so well and you are such an insightful person. And you hodl and buy the dips.
Grazie Jimbo

You cannot be serious.  This thread has gotten progressively worse over time where the entire thing is nothing but dumb money now.  They actually call people who don't believe the price can only go up at a 45 degree angle infinitely forever as "trolls".  Yes, you heard me.  They do not even believe it's possible for bitcoin to go sideways now.  Even claiming a sideways movement makes you a "troll".  Look at the charts they post.  Every single chart shows the price going to infinity at a 45 degree angle.  These people are 100% dumb money, conmen, or both at the same time.
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March 09, 2018, 06:47:26 PM

In my countys news, like an hour ago, they told us that even common objects like a pen are good to defend against an attacker with a knife, can you belive that? Good luck, lol. Can't make that shit up.

If all you have is a pen, it is better than bare-handed.

A pen has about the same cross-section as a knife. If you can grip it tight enough not to slip, it will stab just as deeply. Lack of a real handle makes gripping difficult, and of course there is no ability to slash. But the defensive mindset will be prepared to make use of any available tool.

It might be better than nothing and somehow be useful in the hands of a trained person, but for the average joe, it's GTFO or be done.

Yes, I know that on that distance even a gun won't help, but a pen, that's just hilarious.
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March 09, 2018, 06:47:34 PM

I was not referring to the whole thread which you are implying; I was actaully referring to that specific Jimbo's post and your comment is simply non-sensical to me Roach.
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March 09, 2018, 06:56:55 PM

the IRS started sending out letters to Coinbase users telling them coins they bought for pennies require thousands of dollars in taxes on even if they used the coins to do something like buy a pizza before the price went up.  

Do you have any evidence to go with with your assertion, or are you just doubling down on your fever dreams?

Jim Rickards claims it was happening to people:

"But when K read the 1099, it got even worse. It showed that he owed $2.4 million in taxes, despite his estimate that he only put $8,000 into cryptos. K has decided to sit tight in the belief that he does not owe the taxes.  Big mistake."

Hmm. I've not had time to keep up with Rickards' emails lately. Trawling through my archives, I find this sent by him on 2018 Feb 26:

This would rank as the funniest article of the week if it weren’t so sad for the individual involved. We’re all familiar with the IRS Form 1099. That’s the one used to report most income other than regular wages that go on Form W-2. The person paying the income — it could be a bank, broker or any supplier — files a copy of the 1099 with the IRS and sends one to the income recipient. It’s the recipient’s job to report the income on their tax return. By the way, IRS computers match 100% of the 1099s they receive with what taxpayers put on their tax returns. It’s a kind of computerized audit. Those who don’t report the income may not get a knock on the door, but they will definitely receive an official letter asking the income recipient to explain the discrepancy. Cases just escalate from there. Coinbase, a major U.S.-based cryptocurrency exchange (not to be confused with Coincheck, the subject of the story above) just sent a Form 1099 to one of its customers identified only by the initial “K” in this story. K was initially freaked out even to be receiving a 1099 from a crypto exchange. What happened to the anonymity in the crypto world? Apparently, it doesn’t exist, as I have been warning for years. But when K read the 1099 it got even worse. It showed that he owed $2.4 million in taxes, despite his estimate that he only put $8,000 into cryptos. K has decided to sit tight in the belief that he does not owe the taxes. Big mistake. The IRS will take its copy of the 1099 from the exchange and assert that K does owe the taxes. The IRS puts the burden of proof on the taxpayer to show they don’t. Courts have backed up the IRS on this burden-of-proof approach. Just ask Al Capone, the notorious gangster who went to Alcatraz not for extortion and murder but for not paying his taxes! K will find this out the hard way, as will millions of other crypto customers. The IRS is warming up for a bonanza of tax claims. Cryptocurrency traders should get ready for the mother of all tax nightmares.

Something in this does not match my experience.

I've been 1099'd by Coinbase as well. Just buttresses my documentation. However, the 1099 I received was a 1099-K. Are you familiar with the purpose and structure of a 1099-K? Nowhere on a 1099-K is any indication of tax owed. All it is is a month-by-month accounting of USD-denominated revenues. Conspicuously absent is any mention of USD-denominated expenses.

As we know, the IRS does not claim that you owe income tax on revenue. The IRS claims you owe income tax on income. Which is revenue minus expenses.

Now, it is kind of odd that Coinbase chose the 1099-K as a form to file. This is usually used to track things such as revenue from credit card processors.

But regardless, it is pretty silly that someone in the chain (after reading the source article which is short on details, Jim seems to be taking on faith the claim that the specific 1099 sent to "K." shows tax owed) seems to be confusing revenue with income.

Tempest in a teapot.
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$8888 at Stamp. Very lucky.  Grin
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