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[Rosewater Foundation]

^  nutty. I'll be in the van.

[Last of the V8s]

^  Genius. Any room for a little one?

[mindrust]

anunymint got banned (again). It seems this was his 2nd acc. Dude was evading his ban lol. I wonder what was the reason for his 1st ban...

Was it plagiarism?

[gentlemand]

anunymint got banned (again). It seems this was his 2nd acc. Dude was evading his ban lol. I wonder what was the reason for his 1st ban...

Was it plagiarism?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18861383#msg18861383

Excessive multi posting followed by excessive ban evasion in that case. Probably the same now.

[Globb0]

[Traxo]

anunymint got banned (again). It seems this was his 2nd acc. Dude was evading his ban lol. I wonder what was the reason for his 1st ban...

Was it plagiarism?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18861383#msg18861383

Excessive multi posting followed by excessive ban evasion in that case. Probably the same now.

What the fuck is wrong with forum..its a cesspit of shit posters and third world bounty whore posters. But when a glimmer of intelligent discussion comes from Anonymint aka Shelby Moore he gets deleted. I dont care what he did or who he pissed off. He is probably the last chance this forum holds any relevance into the next stage of crypto. Geeez wept. Whats wrong with you mods?


For the sake of the crypto community let the guy share discuss and argue his points. Ffs

Time to make a new forum don’t you think?

We need a forum that runs on a blockchain and nobody can delete anything. With decentralized moderation, meaning each of us separately can choose which mods we trust to filter content for each of us independent from each other.

It is ridiculous that we in crypto use a CORRUPT, PERMISSIONED, CENTRALIZED forum just like LN is intended to be.

It is so stupid to invest effort into what becomes a booty for CENTRALIZED, CORRUPT mods to steal.

It might be because of the lies and misinformation they were spreading.

CENTRALIZED determination of what is misinformation is the antithesis of our entire decentralized crypto movement.
Bitcointalk is no longer congruent with our movement.
It has become some echo chamber for selling CENTRALIZED, PERMISSIONED, BOOTY calls.

Every post from @anunymint apparently was deleted. The thread is now very difficult to understand because a significant portion of the discussion is missing.

 

Although @anunymint is somewhat harsh and used a bitter language, I've to acknowledge his contribution as being helpful.

Banning users is cruelty but removing their posts? It is slutter.

I got this pm from @mpremp (the supreme leader) regarding my posts being deleted because of quoting @anunymint  

Believe it? He has removed my posts because I've quoted @anunymint. I mean what is it? A devious recursive slutter algorithm, run by a bot?

I'm shocked and disappointed, bitcointalk is not the right place for such malicious behaviors, I'll stop posting in here for a while.

Not sure why - I'd love to explain anything and repost my replies as needed.

Because btctalk management is petty beyond belief. Banning is one thing, but deleting posts is a whole other order of extremism reserved for the most petulant (and deleting RESPONSES!). Especially in thoughtful discussions.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Time to make a new forum don’t you think?

We need a forum that runs on a blockchain and nobody can delete anything. With decentralized moderation, meaning each of us separately can choose which mods we trust to filter content for each of us independent from each other.

It is ridiculous that we in crypto use a CORRUPT, PERMISSIONED, CENTRALIZED forum just like LN is intended to be.

It is so stupid to invest effort into what becomes a booty for CENTRALIZED, CORRUPT mods to steal.

+1000

yes, this one doesn't evolve...

bitmessage bitcoin chan, chan name:   Bitcoin chan address:    BM-2DBipiCye5RJJhVJTK8HjYi4ph48LUdyPr but it is with selfmoderation (blacklist) and only a few days chains (old data is pruned 14days).

you see for example https://bitcoinforum.com/news-announcements-important-notice/bitcoin-forum-supports-bitmessage-project/ they support bitmessage in their user forum contact fields.

today I had a few post moderated about catalan independence...

syndie on i2p

some on freenet...

[Paashaas]

Lightning is growing fast 

[Traxo]

Lightning[booty] is growing fast

FTFY.

[Last of the V8s]

https://web.archive.org/web/20180712225710/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189580;sa=showPosts
fuck the police

[infofront]

Lightning[booty] is growing fast

FTFY.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/aktien/nexo-adds-binance-coin-as-collateral-for-instant-crypto-backed-loans-6382468
https://www.businessinsider.de/binance-backs-first-decentralized-bank-founders-malta-2018-7?
https://blog.neufund.org/eto-announcement-founders-bank-99e7cb08b9fd?
https://neufund.org/investing
#dyor #dydd #ymmv #byob

[RejectedBanana]

I don't know nothing about nothing but the reasons the SEC gave for turning the down the Winkevii are still there, still unaddressed and always will be as far as I can tell.

http://www.etf.com/sections/features-and-news/sec-rejects-winklevoss-bitcoin-etf

"The rejection hinged on the commission’s belief that the proposed fund and its listing on an exchange required more safeguards and more regulatory oversight. Bitcoin is traded on unregulated markets, which prevents the SEC from entering into “surveillance sharing” agreements that, among other things, help stomp out market manipulation, said Spencer Bogart, managing director and head of research at Blockchain Capital.

The implication here, he says, is that because the disapproval centered on the bitcoin market structure itself—and not on any specific detail of the ETF design—prospects for other bitcoin ETFs to come to market just grew dimmer."

It's a bit chicken and egg, no? Is the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation, while regulated market players patiently wait for the SEC to approve something they can offer on their exchanges?

I think targeting accredited investors first and offering custody and insurance solutions as Cboe is attempting is as good a way as any to start this ball rolling. It's retail investors I imagine the SEC is most concerned with, people mortgaging their grandma's house, etc. Who cares if accredited investors lose a few million? Pure speculation vs lifetime savings. Start there.

The SEC's job is to protect US investors. They can't be the global police but they can try and make the US a safer place to invest first rather than last. As regulated markets continue to spring up in the US and other countries, volumes will shift away from unregulated markets and the manipulators will have fewer places to turn.

The SEC can't protect US investors if they don't approve regulated products in the first place, though. People will still invest, regulated or not.

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

[Anon136]

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.


Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

[gentlemand]

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation

That one. Why should they make their life harder than it needs to be? Why bother taking a needless risk? It'll still be here in 5-10 years most likely. The only hurry is in our sweaty little minds.

[infofront]

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.


Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

[Last of the V8s]

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation

That one. Why should they make their life harder than it needs to be? Why bother taking a needless risk? It'll still be here in 5-10 years most likely. The only hurry is in our sweaty little minds.

Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

[RejectedBanana]

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation

That one. Why should they make their life harder than it needs to be? Why bother taking a needless risk? It'll still be here in 5-10 years most likely. The only hurry is in our sweaty little minds.

Agreed this is the most likely reality. Frustrating that the SEC will likely do little to nothing to actually protect and legitimize Bitcoin investors, choosing instead to just cover their own sweaty little asses.

[vroom]

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.


Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

to be honest I hope we don't make the mistake to overhear and underestimate warning comments. We should avoid living in an echo-chamber, accept critical opinions and reavaluate our knowledge from time to time.

[bones261]

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.


Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

Yes, although his posts are long and give the "feeling" of being conspiracy theories, they are really well thought out. They also encouraged me to do more research on how Bitcoin actually works. Also, just because a theory being proposed appears to be outlandish, doesn't mean it is invalid. Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?