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[bones261]

What should I buy, the trezor https://amzn.to/2NdhnKE or save some money and get this keypay wallet https://amzn.to/2ulIMmQ ?

I thought that trezor was kind of the gold standard, and other hardware wallets are not quite up to snuff...   Trezor also have just come out with the new version model T.

Second, I also thought that it was best to attempt to purchase any hardware wallet directly with the manufacturer, so I am not sure if going through Amazon is necessarily acceptable... a problem with some of these wallets and their being tampered with.

You are correct. Buying the Trezor from a third party puts you at risk. The person could somehow compromise the firmware to make the device insecure and let you be open to getting your BTC stolen. I think simply updating the firmware when you get the device should mitigate the risk. However, hackers are a tricky bunch. (I suppose Slush could do the same thing. Create a backdoor to his own device. So in the end, it is a matter of trust. The only way to be completely trustless is to create a paper wallet on an air-gapped computer. Edit: that isn't completely trustless either because you are trusting the program that helps you make the paper wallet. I guess you can just make a random private key using dice slips of paper that you wrote yourself and calculate by hand the public key and the BTC address..)

[infofront]

What should I buy, the trezor https://amzn.to/2NdhnKE or save some money and get this keypay wallet https://amzn.to/2ulIMmQ ?

trezor.

 I second that. I have a Keepkey. It's a POS device, made by a POS company, which is run by POS Bitcoin saboteur Erik Voorhees.

[JayJuanGee]

wait, doesn't the Trezor stuff you in segwit addys?

You can chose legacy or segwit, even within the same wallet to have two divisions and to be able to view overall balance or the balance of the separate formats.

I am pretty sure that if you seed a trezor with a wallet that you already have, then it will keep the same format, and you can view each of the locations... and move coins between segwit or legacy addresses too, to the extent that you feel more comfortable with one versus another or some combination.

[Wekkel]

A bit nutty, but his models seem to focus on October 2020 as peak moment: https://hackernoon.com/modelling-bitcoin-price-metcalfes-law-volatility-and-a-simulation-into-the-future-68ea0bcf5370

[nanobtc]

What should I buy, the trezor https://amzn.to/2NdhnKE or save some money and get this keypay wallet https://amzn.to/2ulIMmQ ?

I have been dabbling with Ledger Nano S. It handles many currencies. For a long time it's only direct connection was with  Electrum on Tails Linux (very good) or Chromium plugin on Chrome (less good). They recently released a standalone Linux client for it (very good).

One feature I like, is that you can add a second password, for a second amount. Plausible deniability.

[mudbone]

wait, doesn't the Trezor stuff you in segwit addys?

What gave you that idea?

[Elwar]

I'm thinking the next chapter past the block size debate will be the payment debate.

I haven't been able to scan a QR code in the past few months and have it actually work due to differing protocols.

Found some money on some Korean BTC wallet I had yesterday. Tried to add it to localbitcoins but it was looking for a different format (instead of just BTC address). I've had to switch to PayPal to pay my hosting service because I can't send money from my blockchain.info wallet to their BitPay QR code.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Here's a short-list of posters that frighten me:

PoolMiner
HairyMaclairy
LastOfTheV8's
Bob
Nanobtc
MajorMax
Anon136
Theymos is (still) sort of iffy

Updated. This list is subject to change without notice.

[Last of the V8s]

Damn! It was my one and only achievement.

[4rt3m]

[Last of the V8s]

Unrelatedly, short Canadian banks:
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/eisman-of-big-short-fame-recommends-shorting-deutsche-bank-1.1076102
https://www.oanda.com/forex-trading/analysis/economic-indicators/canada/rates/yield-curve

[nanobtc]

Damn! It was my one and only achievement.

I have my order in for a t-shirt now, at cafepress.

[El duderino_]

cheers

Just finisht one of those quick look @cmc and good night iT is....... only keep the green Going.....

[Rosewater Foundation]

Here's a short-list of posters that frighten me:

PoolMiner
HairyMaclairy
LastOfTheV8's
Bob
Nanobtc
MajorMax
Anon136
Yonton
4rt3m
Trevor is sort of iffy

Updated. This list is subject to change without notice.

*fears intensify*

[jojo69]

wait, doesn't the Trezor stuff you in segwit addys?

What gave you that idea?

Somebody some tens of pages back during the anonymint apocalypse wanted a summary.

I replied to let the old keys sit and head down to the Winchester for a pint.

They replied that was not an option for them as they had recently migrated to a trezor.

Clearly I jumped to conclusions...my bad.

[mudbone]

My coins all got placed in segwit addresses when I moved them to a new Trezor.

This.

[Rosewater Foundation]

wait, doesn't the Trezor stuff you in segwit addys?

You can chose legacy or segwit, even within the same wallet to have two divisions and to be able to view overall balance or the balance of the separate formats.

I am pretty sure that if you seed a trezor with a wallet that you already have, then it will keep the same format, and you can view each of the locations... and move coins between segwit or legacy addresses too, to the extent that you feel more comfortable with one versus another or some combination.

This is a very good post. I had no idea you had such technical insights. My bad.

[jojo69]

My coins all got placed in segwit addresses when I moved them to a new Trezor.

This.

that's it

are you my personal FBI guy? if so, could you look up my work hours from the week of 6/25-6/29?

[rolling]

I read some posts about IQ earlier and responses. At the end of the day, high IQ doesn't protect you from trolls. High IQ people understand the value of listening to every opinion. Occasionally these trolls are able to sway a person of high intelligence to part with a portion of their stack through social engineering and manipulation of the narrative on this forum and others. I know how hard it is, and my only advice is to leave the space all together and come back in a few years. Pursue other interests, get drunk, do something else, but for god's and for the betterment of mankind's sake, do not sell your precious few bitcoin to these manipulative, low intelligence, low moral character, low social character, lowlifes!!!! You will be rewarded for your intelligence and your fortitude but the time is not now, it is in 2020 or beyond...

[yonton]

What should I buy, the trezor https://amzn.to/2NdhnKE or save some money and get this keypay wallet https://amzn.to/2ulIMmQ ?

I have been dabbling with Ledger Nano S. It handles many currencies. For a long time it's only direct connection was with  Electrum on Tails Linux (very good) or Chromium plugin on Chrome (less good). They recently released a standalone Linux client for it (very good).

One feature I like, is that you can add a second password, for a second amount. Plausible deniability.

This one https://amzn.to/2unbgwr ? I’m gunna start loading up now, I just have a feeling like we’re not gunna see the lows all these so called “experts” are claiming. I’m not waiting any more.