Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[STT]

Great info on the ETF process, that guy sounds like a real asset to everyone in crypto.  Though I guess this was already obvious to some, he explains it well

Worth pointing out: 1. VanEck was first to file for a futures based ETF.

So maybe its more viable being based on futures which has its own regulation and I think increases margin requirements based on volatility.  I've held ETF based on futures before, because really holding a warehouse of corn or whatever even for investment companies is not viable so thats a normal avenue.  However I was also told it was a product for advanced investors only and I was restricted from basic access to Futures based ETF which could be how BTC ETF is labelled.

Sure, that's fine in theory. But I can't imagine the SEC will approve the first ever bitcoin ETF without taking all the time allowed by law.

Sorry. Get ready to wait.

I would expect them to just deny it early if anything but its normal for them to use all time up apparently.



8594 is the 200 day moving average overhead, I didnt realise we had come so close to it now.  50 DMA is rising and also short term we are in an ascending channel.   I guess the market will recognise and pay most attention the 200 DMA and we'll react to the price.   Passing it would be very bullish but I dont think we'll do that at first glance, however we are more positive now then I had thought would be the case



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[infofront]

Do explain and I will stop asking?

The main point of this thread is follow the Bitcoin markets, price, and buy/sell walls.

We get off topic sometimes (or most of the time). However, some people, including me, feel like you're cluttering the thread up with too much off topic stuff. And very long, multiquote posts.

The majority of people here, including myself, despise Roger Ver, btw. I would second the suggestion to post the Ver comments on the Bcash thread, where they would be more relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221
Another suggestion would be to start a new thread where you can talk about taking revenge on Roger or whatever.

[mymenace]

Do explain and I will stop asking?

The main point of this thread is follow the Bitcoin markets, price, and buy/sell walls.

We get off topic sometimes (or most of the time). However, some people, including me, feel like you're cluttering the thread up with too much off topic stuff. And very long, multiquote posts.

The majority of people here, including myself, despise Roger Ver, btw. I would second the suggestion to post the Ver comments on the Bcash thread, where they would be more relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221
Another suggestion would be to start a new thread where you can talk about taking revenge on Roger or whatever.

There was evidence there and you know it.

Very dangerous evidence, that could full well impact Bitcoin markets and my personal safety.

All linked to the big block debate, lightning, segwit and the bitcoin forks

Trying to destroy a blockchain they have done criminal things on.

[Anon136]

Do explain and I will stop asking?

The main point of this thread is follow the Bitcoin markets, price, and buy/sell walls.

We get off topic sometimes (or most of the time). However, some people, including me, feel like you're cluttering the thread up with too much off topic stuff. And very long, multiquote posts.

The majority of people here, including myself, despise Roger Ver, btw. I would second the suggestion to post the Ver comments on the Bcash thread, where they would be more relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221
Another suggestion would be to start a new thread where you can talk about taking revenge on Roger or whatever.

Your avatar matches this post so perfectly. I can just see you with that face going "meyh" at the end.

There was evidence there and you know it.

Very dangerous evidence, that could full well impact Bitcoin markets and my personal safety.

All linked to the big block debate, lightning, segwit and the bitcoin forks

Trying to destroy a blockchain they have done criminal things on.

Bro, I for one couldn't even figure out what the heck you were talking about. Just try to write more clearly and concisely and fit all of the points into one post without quoting yourself over and over again.

[V1lpu]

Logarithmic chart of Bitcoin is just a beautiful thing

[infofront]

Do explain and I will stop asking?

The main point of this thread is follow the Bitcoin markets, price, and buy/sell walls.

We get off topic sometimes (or most of the time). However, some people, including me, feel like you're cluttering the thread up with too much off topic stuff. And very long, multiquote posts.

The majority of people here, including myself, despise Roger Ver, btw. I would second the suggestion to post the Ver comments on the Bcash thread, where they would be more relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221
Another suggestion would be to start a new thread where you can talk about taking revenge on Roger or whatever.

Your avatar matches this post so perfectly. I can just see you with that face going "meyh" at the end.

Haha. It seemed like an appropriate avatar for moderation duties.

[xhomerx10]

Logarithmic chart of Bitcoin is just a beautiful thing

 Looking forward to a price point of the 16.6096404744368^th power of 2.

[sirazimuth]

Shit posting (Wall Of Text) right on Queue.

... and this is how you get added to my ignore list.

* BobLawblaw sighs

[... nonsense delirant rambling removed ...]

Queue the wall of text     Future proves past

Shit posting below continues.

With all due respect, can you stop the retardness already?

[... nonsense delirant rambling removed ...]
Queue the wall of text     Future proves past

Shit posting below continues.

With all due respect, can you stop the retardness already?

What do you know about Roger Ver and why you protecting him.

No bullshit.

This isn't the best thread to be posting that stuff in.

@infofront: Cleanup necessary in Aisles 20951 & 20952 😑

I'll say ...and I thought I was obsessive...sheesh.

[Torque]

How do we feel about this then?

BlockFi just gathered up $50 million to lend to bitcoin and ethereum holders who don’t want to cash out (yet)

Currently, BlockFi allows investors to take out a loan as high as $10 million using either bitcoin or ethereum as collateral.

I don't really have an opinion on them. But I think it's hilarious that SALT was already doing this business model and for much longer, and then this company comes along and gets huge funding just like that. Lol.

One of the many reasons I never invested in SALT (mainly because I believe all ICOs are shit) is that I *knew* that the crypto loan collateral space would eventually get saturated very quickly, with lots of competition. And it looks like there are already quite a number of them, with more on the way. Glad I didn't, as SALT's token price is in the shitter.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/salt/#charts

[mymenace]

Did it have an effect on Bitcoin

Facebook plunges 24% as of Wednesday

[Elwar]

Do explain and I will stop asking?

The main point of this thread is follow the Bitcoin markets, price, and buy/sell walls.

We get off topic sometimes (or most of the time). However, some people, including me, feel like you're cluttering the thread up with too much off topic stuff. And very long, multiquote posts.

The majority of people here, including myself, despise Roger Ver, btw. I would second the suggestion to post the Ver comments on the Bcash thread, where they would be more relevant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221
Another suggestion would be to start a new thread where you can talk about taking revenge on Roger or whatever.

There was evidence there and you know it.

Very dangerous evidence, that could full well impact Bitcoin markets and my personal safety.

All linked to the big block debate, lightning, segwit and the bitcoin forks

Trying to destroy a blockchain they have done criminal things on.

I haven't been watching this mymenace guy but it looks like a bot.

His response to infofront telling him he's off topic is to scream about Roger Ver. Most people point out the 1000s of other people posting off topic in response to being told their off topic.

It's almost as if his posts are being taken from somewhere else, reproduced here for some sort of astroturf campaign.

[Searing]

I keep having this dream where Bob covers my naked body in gluten and feeds me to a Canadian. What could it mean?

With all the 'bacon' in the Candian, I'd suspect he/she would explode!

just saying

[infofront]

Did it have an effect on Bitcoin

Facebook plunges 24% as of Wednesday

Is this a shitcoin chart?



Nope. Just Facebook

[bitserve]

I could perfectly trade that after all this years of experience trading crypto.

When coinbase add facebook? 

[Anon136]

Did it have an effect on Bitcoin

Facebook plunges 24% as of Wednesday

And I was so sure it was TSLA that was going to puke its brains out first and kick this thing off.

[mymenace]

Did it have an effect on Bitcoin
Facebook plunges 24% as of Wednesday

Is this a shitcoin chart?



Nope. Just Facebook

Sure looks like it, hopefully more faith in the bitcoin

[jbreher]

So: topic swerve.

All y'all may recall I've been looking to Puerto Rico as a means of reducing capital gains taxes owed (I'm 'Merkin). But I've just learned of another (legitimate - according to IRS) potential route out of the system that may be as interesting:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2018/07/17/an-unlikely-group-of-billionaires-and-politicians-has-created-the-most-unbelievable-tax-break-ever/

Anyone interested in forming a study group? Or is there some other subforum here in BCT that might be better for such a discussion?

Thank you for the link. Extremely interesting.

North Charleston, South Carolina, might be the most misnamed place in America, a path through a weedy, desolate neighborhood with 20% unemployment and a 40% poverty rate.

Can I invest in meth labs?

Grr. Be serious for a moment, dammit! This is potentially useful to a good number of us here. Boblawblaw? Where you at? I know you've got me on ignore, but this should be very interesting to you too.

 This could be an opportunity for a seasteading Bitcoinist.  Set up shop in an o-zone (numa numa) to build components for the steads.  Dodge some tax money, employ a few people who need it and help to build your new community in the equatorial zone.  Win win win.

FryePondering.png "Not sure if serious...or trolling me".

No. The tax advantage bestowed by this program is only for investment in specially designated Opportunity Zones - all within the US, and in areas deemed economically disadvantaged in relation to surrounding locale. Unsuitable in the least for seasteading.

[Elwar]

Did it have an effect on Bitcoin

Facebook plunges 24% as of Wednesday

Is this a shitcoin chart?



Nope. Just Facebook

Down on bad news of their sales being down.

And here I thought all of my personal information was worth a shitload to these companies.

[jbreher]

Anyone interested in forming a study group? Or is there some other subforum here in BCT that might be better for such a discussion?

Hey bearman. You said something about wanting to make some sort of research group If you want to make a discussion thread about it do so and toss me a link.

New thread over here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748843.0

edit: well, no. I've closed that thread after including a link to another thread on the topic that was booted up in my ever-so-brief absence.

[jbreher]

So: topic swerve.

All y'all may recall I've been looking to Puerto Rico as a means of reducing capital gains taxes owed (I'm 'Merkin). But I've just learned of another (legitimate - according to IRS) potential route out of the system that may be as interesting:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2018/07/17/an-unlikely-group-of-billionaires-and-politicians-has-created-the-most-unbelievable-tax-break-ever/

Anyone interested in forming a study group? Or is there some other subforum here in BCT that might be better for such a discussion?

I've also looked into PR, and am interested in this subject (legal "tax evasion"). I recommend creating a new thread and linking here.

New thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748843.0