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August 04, 2018, 07:24:25 AM

https://www.16personalities.com/enfj-personality

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“The Logician” (INTP-T)

Reading the text/descriptions for the above type was like reading a description of myself! 100% SPOT ON!

A highly recommended personality test!
Thanks mic!


ENTP-A (Debater) which should surprise exactly 0 people here.
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August 04, 2018, 07:24:40 AM

EMA failed to provide support.  Price failed to bounce off EMA as expected.  Bearish cross coming.



Perhaps too early. Give it a few days to develop.
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August 04, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
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When my hairdresser knows what it is it's mainstream (and it's not yet).

Should have sold when my hairdresser told me about BTC in December 2017.

Why? You can never time these buys and sells again and again.
This game would play over a decade or a decade and a half (if one starts counting from 2013).
By 2023-2028 we will see how it shakes out.


Yeah I disagree.  I have managed to keep my stack size the same as it was in early 2017 but pulled out 5x my original investment since the December peak.  I will start putting my profits back in in January 2019.  

I have stopped believing in timing for day trading (I chart for fun and to refine my skills) but I strongly believe in timing over multi year intervals - driven by the halvening cycle.  

@Hairy - Absolutely agree with the bolded. We’ll see very high prices 6-12 months after the next halving regardless of any ETF approval or denial.

I too haven’t sold anything since 2014 - except the bitcoin which I got for free after converting the BCH & BTG we were given. They’ve actually done quite a lot for me.
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August 04, 2018, 07:44:16 AM

Perhaps too early. Give it a few days to develop.

Fair enough.  Let’s see how it pans out. 
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August 04, 2018, 08:33:17 AM

https://www.16personalities.com/enfj-personality

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“The Logician” (INTP-T)

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yeah think i can find myself as well in ENFJ-A

liked the test as well , few more should do it
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August 04, 2018, 08:45:44 AM
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https://www.16personalities.com/enfj-personality

Maybe not on topic
But interesting too do.....  Wink

“The Logician” (INTP-T)

Reading the text/descriptions for the above type was like reading a description of myself! 100% SPOT ON!

A highly recommended personality test!
Thanks mic!


ENTP-A (Debater) which should surprise exactly 0 people here.

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August 04, 2018, 09:06:42 AM
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... or like JJG  Roll Eyes

EDIT: Lulz. Just came across this one for r0ach.

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August 04, 2018, 09:10:48 AM

Lefty debaters be like
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... or like JJG  Roll Eyes

so bob do it as well .....whats gonna come out of you  Shocked ?    kinda funny^ lol Smiley
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August 04, 2018, 09:23:28 AM

so bob do it as well .....whats gonna come out of you  Shocked ?    kinda funny^ lol Smiley

Not really prone to longwinded posts, unless I get an inspired creative streak, or recounting wholesome, homoerotic anecdotes about life with Rick.

Starting to channel my creative energies into other endeavors lately...  Wink
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August 04, 2018, 09:28:02 AM

I wonder how long my 21k page post will stay on page 21k.



If that's true why's my post moved back to page 20999?
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August 04, 2018, 09:47:00 AM

I've taken the test a few times, and I consistently come out as ENTP-A. Only once I had a different result, but I can't remember what it was. I must have been under the influence Smiley
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August 04, 2018, 09:49:21 AM

I wonder how long my 21k page post will stay on page 21k.

It is hardly even a round enough number to matter....

My speculation is that probably 25k and 30k will be more significant.

You do realize that 21 has a very special meaning for bitcoiners, right?  Huh However, it may take us a while to reach 21 million pages.

If you put it like that, then o.k.... I do understand that.

On the other hand, I did recognize 10k and 20k and 50k, and 100k..... .. ... Probably price/page parity is going to come well before 50k, and likely before 30k.. and perhaps, when BTC price goes over page parity this next time, it will largely stay over it.... (but I would not be surprised with a few more dips below page count.... It was nice to have a bit of price above page count in the mid-$19,000s, but it did not last for very long.. that's for sure.... a few days, maybe?  Recall that?
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August 04, 2018, 10:08:49 AM

When my hairdresser knows what it is it's mainstream (and it's not yet).

Should have sold when my hairdresser told me about BTC in December 2017.

Why? You can never time these buys and sells again and again.
This game would play over a decade or a decade and a half (if one starts counting from 2013).
By 2023-2028 we will see how it shakes out.


Yeah I disagree.  I have managed to keep my stack size the same as it was in early 2017 but pulled out 5x my original investment since the December peak.  I will start putting my profits back in in January 2019.  

I have stopped believing in timing for day trading (I chart for fun and to refine my skills) but I strongly believe in timing over multi year intervals - driven by the halvening cycle.  

There's a point in which you might change your plan, right?  What if the price goes above $10k or even $12k or even $15k before 2019?  Wouldn't you get nervous about your plan to buy not playing out how you anticipated?  There would be a price point that you would have to reconsider if the market seems to be going against your expectations, right?

I recall when BTC dipped for the second time (wasn't it second time in the $6k arena, and then you said that you thought that you were done trading because you expected that "the bottom was in"... Subsequently BTC prices bounced back down or at least failed to break abvoe $10k and went down to its so far lowest point of about $5,777.  So at some point you changed your plan, and you sold and you are expecting DOWN.. that might not play out.   I certainly don't know, but I cerainly am not making any major sell moves, even though I feel sufficiently prepared to buy down to below $1k, if necessary.. even though it is also possible that we might not see sub $5,777 coins, ever ever again... possible, right?
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Bob with his little passive pussy shit.   Roll Eyes
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August 04, 2018, 10:21:27 AM

https://twitter.com/redtheminer/status/1025664792860618752
"It's reported that bitmain's risk wafer on 16nm/12nm/10nm all failed and lost around 4 billion yuan.#btc"

Heard about one such failure a few months back. 2 might be called unlucky (for them). 3 though?
Conspiracy? AXA bribed TSMC? Or just a very difficult business to be in?
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I wonder how long my 21k page post will stay on page 21k.



If that's true why's my post moved back to page 20999?

Mine hasn't yet Tongue
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August 04, 2018, 11:00:34 AM
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When my hairdresser knows what it is it's mainstream (and it's not yet).

Should have sold when my hairdresser told me about BTC in December 2017.

Why? You can never time these buys and sells again and again.
This game would play over a decade or a decade and a half (if one starts counting from 2013).
By 2023-2028 we will see how it shakes out.


Yeah I disagree.  I have managed to keep my stack size the same as it was in early 2017 but pulled out 5x my original investment since the December peak.  I will start putting my profits back in in January 2019.  

I have stopped believing in timing for day trading (I chart for fun and to refine my skills) but I strongly believe in timing over multi year intervals - driven by the halvening cycle.  

There's a point in which you might change your plan, right?  What if the price goes above $10k or even $12k or even $15k before 2019?  Wouldn't you get nervous about your plan to buy not playing out how you anticipated?  There would be a price point that you would have to reconsider if the market seems to be going against your expectations, right?

I recall when BTC dipped for the second time (wasn't it second time in the $6k arena, and then you said that you thought that you were done trading because you expected that "the bottom was in"... Subsequently BTC prices bounced back down or at least failed to break abvoe $10k and went down to its so far lowest point of about $5,777.  So at some point you changed your plan, and you sold and you are expecting DOWN.. that might not play out.   I certainly don't know, but I cerainly am not making any major sell moves, even though I feel sufficiently prepared to buy down to below $1k, if necessary.. even though it is also possible that we might not see sub $5,777 coins, ever ever again... possible, right?

Yes I said I was done trading in the $6k - $10k range.  I picked up a little bit when it went sub $6k for a few days but otherwise have held to that.  

I haven’t sold anymore, what I have now is profits leftover  from selling @ $13.5k and $11.5k and rebuying the same amount @ $6k - $7.2k plus a tiny bit more at $5.8k.  Some will have to go to taxes and the balance can be used to increase my holdings.

With any luck I hope to increase my pot by 50% this halvening cycle. It would be more but taxes cut hard into the profits due to low cost base.

It is possible that the price will go up before early 2019 but I am fairly confident that it will not.  At the worst I still have my original BTC balance so I am fully hedged against the upside.   I know people like to split early 2013 and late 2013 into separate bull markets but I think that is a mistake.  

To me 2013 was a single market just like 2017 was a single market.  2013 matches 2017, 2014 matches 2018, 2015 matches 2019, 2016 matches 2020 and 2017 matches 2021.   This means both 2018 and 2019 should be dogs with the bottom sometime between January and September 2019, maybe right after we get a second death cross on the weekly or when we finally break the exponential trend from 2012 downwards (as we did last cryptowinter).  



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