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August 20, 2018, 07:00:40 AM


No matter how good your opsec is, the more you interact the bigger the probability of leaking some critical data that could turn valuable by cross-checking with other available data.

ie: even if you removed the critical exif data in this case (gps location) from the original picture you still forgot to re-scrub the files after cropping. In this case it is useless to know that you used an Apple device (it could be pinpointed to the exact one, but I am too lazy to carry on a profile comparison) to edit/crop the picture, but it could have been something more critical and worth following in other cases.


Yeah I’m definitely not opening a dark net market. 
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August 20, 2018, 07:02:58 AM
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Whales waiting for ETF in September anyway Smiley they'll try to pump as usual, hoping for the average Joe to buy because every news channel will talk about the rise of BTC, a scenario we've seen countless of times.
We will see pumps 2 or 3 times in September, and if the ETF is accepted it should be epic  Smiley


I can see Andreas's explanation that an ETF is bad for Bitcoin.

The premise being that the ETF holding company would be in possession of a huge amount of bitcoins, which would make them a big decision maker when it comes time for things like forks and such. Exchanges already hold a large amount of sway because of this. An ETF would just add to this.

And of course, his final point was "not your keys, not your bitcoins". Never forget.

Link or it didn't happen.   Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BdO396PIZw
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August 20, 2018, 07:21:56 AM

a lot of people likely have little to no clue about bitcoin...

Yeah, well...

Most 'merkins think they 'know' what a US dollar is, but in reality, they have no clue.
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August 20, 2018, 07:28:36 AM

a lot of people likely have little to no clue about bitcoin...

Yeah, well...

Most 'merkins think they 'know' what a US dollar is, but in reality, they have no clue.

Isn't that a slightly different point - concededly a related point, but different?

I think that my long story post was attempting to suggest that there are a lot of bitcoin (and perhaps even crypto - though I am less interested about that) polls out there that try to suggest that they are polling people about bitcoin awareness and use, but really it seems to me that there is a need to go into some granularity before we really even begin to understand what is being polled exactly and the meaningfulness (or lack thereof) regarding the various responses to the poll.
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August 20, 2018, 07:31:56 AM

Here it is, Sunday night in Tahiti. What does one do with your time in such a paradise?

My gf and I are literally both calling our banks to get our accounts unlocked due to bitcoin.

Her calling Thailand, me calling Germany. Via Skype, in French Polynesia.

Such is the life of a bitcoin hodler.

I just want to get my money out of my German bank into BTC so I can close the account.

Would you mind to elaborate what happend?
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August 20, 2018, 07:34:53 AM
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Looks like Peter R has better things than to come here and extol the virtues of Bcash lol.  

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Wtf.

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Chaos and confusion erupted across Venezuela, and most stores were shuttered on Saturday, after president Nicolas Maduro announced that the government would enact a massive currency devaluation, implement a new minimum wage, hike taxes, and also raise gasoline prices for most citizens even as the country struggles with the greatest hyperinflation on record, surpassing even that of the Weimar Republic.

As a result of the enacted actions, the new version of the bolivar will be pegged to the value of the state cryptocurrency, the etro, which according to Bloomberg amounts to a 95% devaluation of the official rate, and will trade in line with where the black market was; the government will also raise the minimum wage more than 3,000 percent,  which works out to about $30 a month.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-19/venezuela-chaos-after-maduro-announces-massive-95-devaluation-new-fx-rate-tied


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August 20, 2018, 07:48:33 AM
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Looks like Peter R has better things than to come here and extol the virtues of Bcash lol.  



WoW This post alone made it very clear how dangerous these satoshi's vision cultists are.

And I know some of you are big fans of anonymint but he is a fucking cultist just like Craig and Roger. Maybe a little smarter than them but he is still a cultist.

Just like everybody thinks their god is the one true god or religion  every one of these retards (Craig, Ver or anonymint) thinks their vision of satoshi is the real one.

They are retarded because it doesn't matter what satoshi 's vision was now.

He is gone. He left the project.

They don't want to understand that fact and act accordingly to the reality but instead they want to act like lunatic priests of a satanic religion.

Unbelievable.
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August 20, 2018, 08:28:14 AM

Here it is, Sunday night in Tahiti. What does one do with your time in such a paradise?

My gf and I are literally both calling our banks to get our accounts unlocked due to bitcoin.

Her calling Thailand, me calling Germany. Via Skype, in French Polynesia.

Such is the life of a bitcoin hodler.

I just want to get my money out of my German bank into BTC so I can close the account.

Would you mind to elaborate what happend?

Meh, gf sells BTC on localbitcoins. Nigerian scammer took some old woman's money by "making her" send money 17 times to 10 different bank accounts (LBC users). My gf was one of those LBC users. The police flagged all of the accounts until they could figure out what happened. They finally cleared her but the bank still has her account locked.

For mine...it's been a long time issue with Germany's screwed up system.
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August 20, 2018, 08:32:47 AM

Wtf.

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Chaos and confusion erupted across Venezuela, and most stores were shuttered on Saturday, after president Nicolas Maduro announced that the government would enact a massive currency devaluation, implement a new minimum wage, hike taxes, and also raise gasoline prices for most citizens even as the country struggles with the greatest hyperinflation on record, surpassing even that of the Weimar Republic.

As a result of the enacted actions, the new version of the bolivar will be pegged to the value of the state cryptocurrency, the etro, which according to Bloomberg amounts to a 95% devaluation of the official rate, and will trade in line with where the black market was; the government will also raise the minimum wage more than 3,000 percent,  which works out to about $30 a month.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-19/venezuela-chaos-after-maduro-announces-massive-95-devaluation-new-fx-rate-tied

From what I've seen discussed about Venezuela's cryptocurrency is it's a cryptocurrency in name only.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_(cryptocurrency)


Crypto on NEM that is supposedly set to the price of a barrel of oil.
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August 20, 2018, 09:42:56 AM

This is a lovely video.  Always makes me smile.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y4SCAw264qM

What a freeking toolbag.
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No matter how good your opsec is, the more you interact the bigger the probability of leaking some critical data that could turn valuable by cross-checking with other available data.

ie: even if you removed the critical exif data in this case (gps location) from the original picture you still forgot to re-scrub the files after cropping. In this case it is useless to know that you used an Apple device (it could be pinpointed to the exact one, but I am too lazy to carry on a profile comparison) to edit/crop the picture, but it could have been something more critical and worth following in other cases.


Yeah I’m definitely not opening a dark net market. 

That's really good opsec.
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August 20, 2018, 09:49:02 AM

Looks like Peter R has better things than to come here and extol the virtues of Bcash lol.  



Ironic... no chain split.  Ha.

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August 20, 2018, 10:26:18 AM


That's all the money they can reach from the corner they painted themselves into with the forkcoin scam.

Still quite a bit of dough...  but I wonder how much of that is on (virtual) paper and collapses when they try to sell that BCH?
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August 20, 2018, 10:38:27 AM

Remember how I've mentiond Jews run the human organ trafficking industry and child sex trafficking, just like they also ran...black slave trafficking?  (slave trafficking has mostly been semite orientated through history)  It appears Zerohedge today has re-discovered these facts:

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/08/colombia-ex-israel-forces-member-arrested-as-head-of-massive-international-child-prostitution-cartel/

He's probably not "ex-israel forces", the Israeli govt and AIPAC probably offer them up to US congress and others to try and blackmail them into being servants of the Jew in their war to try and destroy white western nations.
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August 20, 2018, 11:00:43 AM

Here it is, Sunday night in Tahiti. What does one do with your time in such a paradise?

My gf and I are literally both calling our banks to get our accounts unlocked due to bitcoin.

Her calling Thailand, me calling Germany. Via Skype, in French Polynesia.

Such is the life of a bitcoin hodler.

I just want to get my money out of my German bank into BTC so I can close the account.

Would you mind to elaborate what happend?

Meh, gf sells BTC on localbitcoins. Nigerian scammer took some old woman's money by "making her" send money 17 times to 10 different bank accounts (LBC users). My gf was one of those LBC users. The police flagged all of the accounts until they could figure out what happened. They finally cleared her but the bank still has her account locked.

For mine...it's been a long time issue with Germany's screwed up system.

What a clusterfuck. I hope it all comes out well for you. Did she sell BTC on LBC in Thailand? Was there namable demand?

I just googled French Polynesia, it looks nice. Would you recommend it for a holiday?
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August 20, 2018, 12:06:59 PM

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i think everybody would recommend it , paradise islands with nice nature i'm going there for sure in not to very long of a timeframe
its only very far from where i come so when i go it has to be for a little longer time .... but the BTC rollercoaster is planning to visit some of the islands just not knowing witch ones .... so maybe elwar can tell us a few topspots there  Grin
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August 20, 2018, 01:02:23 PM

If you are in Tahiti, do not drink Alcool de Menthe straight from the bottle while walking along the beach sidewalk, no matter how good an idea it may seem at the time.
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Scenario for a positive trend, early October. Specifically 03/10 - 05/10 set the peak $9000/1BTC

This scenario is feasible when BTC passes $7200 and has a stable btc around $5800 - $6000


What is the opinion of people?
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?


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August 20, 2018, 01:30:49 PM


And I know some of you are big fans of anonymint but he is a fucking cultist just like Craig and Roger. Maybe a little smarter than them but he is still a cultist.


i dont think so. if one can prove his data or analysis is wrong, he will admit his mistake. it has happened. thats not the mark of a cultist. cultists ignore facts.

it may seem hes inflexible but thats only because his logic, understanding of the subjects and research is very very good.

the mark of a true scientist is to go with the best theory that fits the facts as they are known. when something happens that invalidates that, the scientist will scrap that theory and search for a new one. thats shelby.

even his detractors generally admit he is very very smart. thats puts us average guys (like me specifically not mentioning any names here) at a distinct disadvantage. i would need to dedicate years to understand just some his theories, and even then i probably lack the brainpower to fully grok it.
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