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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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December 28, 2018, 04:52:48 AM

Ok given the objections to the USA for the $100k party, and opsec issues with going to a third world country, I’m calling for us to party in Belgium.  Home of the GooseBull.  Frites, biere et Bitcoin. 

I second that.
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December 28, 2018, 04:54:30 AM

As a side effect of what I was talking about earlier, the economic system is the equivalent of a game of monopoly in which one guy has all the board pieces and the game can continue no longer.  They even go to the lengths of "basic income", literally handing you free money to try and get you to keep playing because better to lose 1% of monopoly on the entire money supply than it crashing and losing 100%.  

Hell, it might even work for a little while, but once economic systems become that monopolized, it seems pretty doomed and inevitable to flip to a new currency unit just in order to continue.  That's the problem, though.  What the hell can it flip to?  The entire purpose of the invisible hand of the market forcing an implosion and flip to a new currency unit is to have one that isn't monopolized so the system can continue.

If you just flipped from US dollars instantly to physical metals today, it would be rough since such a huge portion of the population doesn't own any so you haven't really fixed the monopolization problem.  Even less people own digital shitcoins because mining is designed to centralize.  If you did the flip, it would be completely impossible to force only gold as money if your goal was to lessen monopolization so an ecnomic system can continue at all.  You would be required to utilize both gold, silver, and copper (many of the physical coins already are copper).
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December 28, 2018, 04:55:35 AM

^ This guy is still here with the same rambling?!?!
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December 28, 2018, 04:55:42 AM

I was 20y old, saw some teenagers chasing a rat on the street. I had done some X and was nicely drunk as well, I thought I'd show them how to catch the rat and throw it on the wall (very smart behaviour). After couple of minutes of chasing I caught the rat who ofcourse bit me on the instant. The rat got away, didn't make anything serious about it, just continued my druggy weekend. When woke up the next Monday had a small fever, which rose from 37 to 40 in about an hour, called myself an ambulance and then passed out. Got some kind of shot but wasn't taken to hospital, they told me if it gets more serious I'd have to go there myself. When I woke up on Tuesday I had red spots all over my body, went to hospital myself and gave blood to be tested. They started treating me against rabies but told me I had no symptoms against it and they really didn't know what's wrong with me. Then the blood got sent to UK and after 48h I got the results. Was hospitalised for 10 days.
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December 28, 2018, 04:57:50 AM

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.
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December 28, 2018, 05:00:26 AM

I was 20y old, saw some teenagers chasing a rat on the street. I had done some X and was nicely drunk as well, I thought I'd show them how to catch the rat and throw it on the wall (very smart behaviour). After couple of minutes of chasing I caught the rat who ofcourse bit me on the instant. The rat got away, didn't make anything serious about it, just continued my druggy weekend. When woke up the next Monday had a small fever, which rose from 37 to 40 in about an hour, called myself an ambulance and then passed out. Got some kind of shot but wasn't taken to hospital, they told me if it gets more serious I'd have to go there myself. When I woke up on Tuesday I had red spots all over my body, went to hospital myself and gave blood to be tested. They started treating me against rabies but told me I had no symptoms against it and they really didn't know what's wrong with me. Then the blood got sent to UK and after 48h I got the results. Was hospitalised for 10 days.

Rabies does not show symptoms so fast. It takes usually more than a weeks up to a few months. Problem is that when it does show symptoms it can really kill you very fast if it is too late (which usually is).

Never heard about your disease. Hope you got fully cured with no consequences.


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December 28, 2018, 05:02:39 AM

time for a 5.1kg wrench attack
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December 28, 2018, 05:03:29 AM

^

Actually yes... if you remove this then we'll have no record of it Cheesy should be relatively easy to find in public medical records, or even in news articles... I'm talking about the person's real identity.

The two colors combined killed his opsec...

Got to be careful guys!
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December 28, 2018, 05:03:49 AM

As a side effect of what I was talking about earlier, the economic system is the equivalent of a game of monopoly in which one guy has all the board pieces and the game can continue no longer.  They even go to the lengths of "basic income", literally handing you free money to try and get you to keep playing because better to lose 1% of monopoly on the entire money supply than it crashing and losing 100%.  

Hell, it might even work for a little while, but once economic systems become that monopolized, it seems pretty doomed and inevitable to flip to a new currency unit just in order to continue.  That's the problem, though.  What the hell can it flip to?  The entire purpose of the invisible hand of the market forcing an implosion and flip to a new currency unit is to have one that isn't monopolized so the system can continue.

If you just flipped from US dollars instantly to physical metals today, it would be rough since such a huge portion of the population doesn't own any so you haven't really fixed the monopolization problem.  Even less people own digital shitcoins because mining is designed to centralize.  If you did the flip, it would be completely impossible to force only gold as money if your goal was to lessen monopolization so an ecnomic system can continue at all.  You would be required to utilize both gold, silver, and copper (many of the physical coins already are copper).

Universal basic income looks like a forgone conclusion at this point.  The majority of jobs will be automated in the near future and the rich class would rather give out crumbs to the peasants than for the entire system to collapse in anarchy.  After all the research I've done it looks like a great solution.  It will reduce crime and give people more freedom to make the world a better place.  It shouldn't be thought of as free money either.  Think of all the antural resources that the government gobbles up from the public so it is really just a dividend to the citizens.  I know Andrew Yang who is running for president 2020 is a big  advocate of UBI.



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December 28, 2018, 05:05:08 AM

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Problem is depending on who you worry to break your opsec. We WO'ers? Probably not. Any state agency, without doubt with much less than you have just said.

I don't care about state agencies.... As long as I am not a terrorist, there's no way they could use anything against me in a court. That's all I care.

I was extremely paranoid decades ago. Maybe I had reasons to be or maybe not... don't remember anymore. Now I am sure I am an extremely uninteresting person to closely watch, so I don't fucking care.
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December 28, 2018, 05:05:28 AM

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Don't worry, I'd never look for your name or anything. No point for me to do that, as I'd never cause any harm to anyone. I just mentioned it for all of us readers here, to be careful when we write about ourselves.

A guy in Turkey published in Facebook that he had 400 BTC. IIRC, he was kidnapped, tortured, and his 400 BTC stolen.
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December 28, 2018, 05:06:32 AM

I was 20y old, saw some teenagers chasing a rat on the street. I had done some X and was nicely drunk as well, I thought I'd show them how to catch the rat and throw it on the wall (very smart behaviour). After couple of minutes of chasing I caught the rat who ofcourse bit me on the instant. The rat got away, didn't make anything serious about it, just continued my druggy weekend. When woke up the next Monday had a small fever, which rose from 37 to 40 in about an hour, called myself an ambulance and then passed out. Got some kind of shot but wasn't taken to hospital, they told me if it gets more serious I'd have to go there myself. When I woke up on Tuesday I had red spots all over my body, went to hospital myself and gave blood to be tested. They started treating me against rabies but told me I had no symptoms against it and they really didn't know what's wrong with me. Then the blood got sent to UK and after 48h I got the results. Was hospitalised for 10 days.

Rabies does not show symptoms so fast. It takes usually more than a weeks up to a few months. Problem is that when it does show symptoms it can really kill you very fast if it is too late (which usually is).

Never heard about your disease. Hope you got fully cured with no consequences.




Yeah that was told me about rabies too, I guess they took it as a precaution, the last shot was around 6 months after the first one.

I got lucky, got the symptoms faster than normal and got proper treatment as well, I was told it can easily end with death (though wikipedia states that happens only in North America). No consequences whatsoever, or I don't know, I don't think myself as "normal", maybe that had something to do with it  Grin
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December 28, 2018, 05:07:45 AM

^

Actually yes... if you remove this then we'll have no record of it Cheesy should be relatively easy to find in public medical records, or even in news articles... I'm talking about the person's real identity.

The two colors combined killed his opsec...

Got to be careful guys!

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December 28, 2018, 05:08:58 AM

As a side effect of what I was talking about earlier, the economic system is the equivalent of a game of monopoly in which one guy has all the board pieces and the game can continue no longer.  They even go to the lengths of "basic income", literally handing you free money to try and get you to keep playing because better to lose 1% of monopoly on the entire money supply than it crashing and losing 100%.  

Hell, it might even work for a little while, but once economic systems become that monopolized, it seems pretty doomed and inevitable to flip to a new currency unit just in order to continue.  That's the problem, though.  What the hell can it flip to?  The entire purpose of the invisible hand of the market forcing an implosion and flip to a new currency unit is to have one that isn't monopolized so the system can continue.

If you just flipped from US dollars instantly to physical metals today, it would be rough since such a huge portion of the population doesn't own any so you haven't really fixed the monopolization problem.  Even less people own digital shitcoins because mining is designed to centralize.  If you did the flip, it would be completely impossible to force only gold as money if your goal was to lessen monopolization so an ecnomic system can continue at all.  You would be required to utilize both gold, silver, and copper (many of the physical coins already are copper).

Universal basic income looks like a forgone conclusion at this point.  The majority of jobs will be automated in the near future and the rich class would rather give out crumbs to the peasants than for the entire system to collapse in anarchy.  After all the research I've done it looks like a great solution.  It will reduce crime and give people more freedom to make the world a better place.  It shouldn't be thought of as free money either.  Think of all the antural resources that the government gobbles up from the public so it is really just a dividend to the citizens.  I know Andrew Yang who is running for president 2020 is a big  advocate of UBI.
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December 28, 2018, 05:10:15 AM

rambling

I think you are scared of my example above.  Because you know bitcoin distribution is not good enough and never will be good enough to merit any flip from using something like USD as currency to bitcoin as some type of reserve currency due to mining being designed to centralize.  How does it gain distribution?  People are forced to buy in from the Bitmain monopoly men.  But very few members of the general population are willing or even capable to do that.

The bitcoin as an infectious disease model is right.  There's virtually nobody who refuses to use gold, silver, and copper as money.  You're probably already handling copper coins now.  But there's an enormous amount of people who refuse to use digital shitcoins.  The religious sector with the whole "mark of the beast" prejudice is probably plenty enough alone to sink it without even factoring in anything else.  

Then for places like China, the Chinese hate the social credit score system and will end up favoring something as different from that as possible as an act of rebellion.  Changing from that to bitcoin is virtually the same thing. They will force metals too.  It's not really possible for bitcoin to break out of a niche market unless the govt somehow forces people to use it.
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December 28, 2018, 05:12:37 AM

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Don't worry, I'd never look for your name or anything. No point for me to do that, as I'd never cause any harm to anyone. I just mentioned it for all of us readers here, to be careful when we write about ourselves.

A guy in Turkey published in Facebook that he had 400 BTC. IIRC, he was kidnapped, tortured, and his 400 BTC stolen.

I have sometimes researched the IRL identities of a few people here. Just for the sake of it. I guess all the clearly identifiable ones already know they are somewhat exposed. And I don't remember anything about it.
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December 28, 2018, 05:15:37 AM

time for a 5.1kg wrench attack

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I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Problem is depending on who you worry to break your opsec. We WO'ers? Probably not. Any state agency, without doubt with much less than you have just said.

I don't care about state agencies.... As long as I am not a terrorist, there's no way they could use anything against me in a court. That's all I care.

I was extremely paranoid decades ago. Maybe I had reasons to be or maybe not... don't remember anymore. Now I am sure I am an extremely uninteresting person to closely watch, so I don't fucking care.

I'm an honest citizen so I couldn't care less about any government agencies, let them dig and inspect. Nor am I a terrorist. Most stuff one has done ages in 5 to 10 years, in Europe at least. And why would anyone come at me for drug use or similar? It's in the past, never been a criminal and never will be, money is easy to be made in legitimate ways.

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Don't worry, I'd never look for your name or anything. No point for me to do that, as I'd never cause any harm to anyone. I just mentioned it for all of us readers here, to be careful when we write about ourselves.

A guy in Turkey published in Facebook that he had 400 BTC. IIRC, he was kidnapped, tortured, and his 400 BTC stolen.


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December 28, 2018, 05:17:19 AM

Wrenches dont scare me.... pliers on the other hand......
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December 28, 2018, 05:19:40 AM

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

Problem is depending on who you worry to break your opsec. We WO'ers? Probably not. Any state agency, without doubt with much less than you have just said.

I don't care about state agencies.... As long as I am not a terrorist, there's no way they could use anything against me in a court. That's all I care.

I was extremely paranoid decades ago. Maybe I had reasons to be or maybe not... don't remember anymore. Now I am sure I am an extremely uninteresting person to closely watch, so I don't fucking care.

I'm an honest citizen nowadays so I couldn't care less about any government agencies, let them dig and inspect. Nor am I a terrorist. Most stuff one has done ages in 5 to 10 years, in Europe at least. And why would anyone come at me for drug use or similar? It's in the past, never been a criminal and never will be, money is easy to be made in legitimate ways.

Not only that even if were bigger crimes than just drugs they couldn't use illegally obtained evidence.... Unless you're a terrorist or an "enemy of the state", then you are fucked no matter what the evidence is.

Not that I like them digging through my shit.... but nothing to really worry here.
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