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[Hueristic]

toxoplazmosis

A fascinating thing. But from my understanding, in rodents it makes them attracted to cat urine. It's humans that it makes aggressive.

And also, that's a chipmunk, they are not affected by toxoplasmosis.

Where has it been proven they are immune?
One cannot assume because one has not been found to be infected that there are not in effect infected ones yet to be found?
Is anyone monitoring the chipmunk population for us?
These are very important steps that must be taken to protect our sovereignty.

[HairyMaclairy]

I don't think the author is fudding.  I don't know how many qbits it would take to make an attack on early addresses feasible, but those qbits are certainly coming eventually.

I did the math once.  If we pointed all of the world's computing resources at hashing, it would take us until the heat death of the universe many times over before we cracked a single early address. 

Current QC is a joke. 

Eventually is a really long time away.

Even if proper QC was invented tomorrow, we could just hard fork to a QC hash algo.

[Hueristic]

I don't think the author is fudding.  I don't know how many qbits it would take to make an attack on early addresses feasible, but those qbits are certainly coming eventually.

I did the math once.  If we pointed all of the world's computing resources at hashing, it would take us until the heat death of the universe many times over before we cracked a single early address.  

Current QC is a joke.  

Eventually is a really long time away.

Even if proper QC was invented tomorrow, we could just hard fork to a QC hash algo.

I read somewhere it would take 8 qbits to break sha 256. I think that somewhere was from academia but I can't remember.
damn, I'm brain dead and exhausted and am absolutely posting worthless shit right now. I'll google it again.

bah, stupid memory according to this its at 512

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24zwsr/how_many_qubits_would_it_take_to_break_bitcoins/

I think I was thinking of an 8qbit word was needed, but now I seem to remember qbits won't be using word sizes.

[yefi]

Where has it been proven they are immune?

It was in one of the Chip 'n' Dale episodes.

[Ibian]

toxoplazmosis

A fascinating thing. But from my understanding, in rodents it makes them attracted to cat urine. It's humans that it makes aggressive.

And also, that's a chipmunk, they are not affected by toxoplasmosis.

Sure about that? It's still a rodent.

[Hueristic]

Where has it been proven they are immune?

It was in one of the Chip 'n' Dale episodes.

I remember that documentary series!

[HairyMaclairy]

The latest D-Wave supposedly has 2,000 qubits and hasn't done shit.  Make of that what you will.

https://www.nature.com/news/d-wave-upgrade-how-scientists-are-using-the-world-s-most-controversial-quantum-computer-1.21353

[realr0ach]

Well, at least the poor, the stupid and the hungry seems to be disappearing, it's of course the same people.
They are hungry because they are poor and they are poor because they are stupid. Stupid people won't get well paid jobs, if they get any at all.

That was a completely nonsensical statement.  If you're educated, the moneychangers practice global labor arbitrage and send your job to China to profit off slave labor and leave you jobless.  If you're uneducated, they flood your country with unskilled brown labor to leave you jobless.  Then the bubble in unskilled labor causes more people to enter college to further leave even STEM people without prospect of job.

The artificial boom and bust cycles rigged by wild central bank interest rate changes then leave everyone jobless on the ride down as the moneychangers then buy all the assets for pennies on the dollar and consolidate power further. Then factor in a lot of jobs are more who you know then what you know, it's pretty easy on a large sample size for tons of stupid people to be rich with great jobs and tons of smart people to have no jobs and be penniless.  Look at this Canadian unemployment from 2011.  Why did these people even bother working hard to get a STEM degree?

Just 29.7 per cent of those with engineering degrees actually work as engineers, based on 2011 data. For those trained outside of Canada, the situation is worse. Just over 20 per cent of internationally trained engineers who came to Canada have been able to find work as engineers here.

[Hueristic]

The latest D-Wave supposedly has 2,000 qubits and hasn't done shit.  Make of that what you will.

https://www.nature.com/news/d-wave-upgrade-how-scientists-are-using-the-world-s-most-controversial-quantum-computer-1.21353

Holy shit, Last I remember they had 2 and I think HP and IBM were working on 4 and it was supposed to be decades before they doubled that.

D-Wave is also working on a fifth model, which it hopes will answer critics by providing even greater capacity and connectivity and a closer fit to scientists’ needs. Likely to launch within two years, the machine will again double the number of qubits, to around 4,000. Crucially, it will also provide more-complex connections between qubits, allowing it to tackle more-complicated problems.

Welp there goes that theory.

I never did understand if it provides all possible solutions how you were supposed to pick which one was the right one?

[HairyMaclairy]

I think it specialises in path optimisation, so the shortest path should be readily ascertainable, acknowledging that the issue is non-trivial at scale.

With the hashing operation, the public key is either a match or it isn't, so also readily ascertainable.  

We can get into a discussion about whether the D-Wave has 'real qubits' but I will get out of my depth technically really fast so will need to defer that point to others.

[Kylapoiss]

Speaking about rodents, I've had this disease:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat-bite_fever

classified, they had to send my blood sample to UK to get it properly tested and see what's wrong with me.

I've won the low probability health lottery multiple times

[bitserve]

^

And there's where all your opsec has just gone to trash.

Not that it is that much of a problem (see Mic), but just saying.

Anyway.... what did you do to get infected?

[Paashaas]

[AlcoHoDL]

^

Actually yes... "[removed] in [removed]" should be relatively easy to find in public medical records, or even in news articles... I'm talking about the person's real identity.

The two colors combined killed his opsec...

Got to be careful guys!

[Arriemoller]

Ok given the objections to the USA for the $100k party, and opsec issues with going to a third world country, I’m calling for us to party in Belgium.  Home of the GooseBull.  Frites, biere et Bitcoin. 

I second that.

[realr0ach]

As a side effect of what I was talking about earlier, the economic system is the equivalent of a game of monopoly in which one guy has all the board pieces and the game can continue no longer.  They even go to the lengths of "basic income", literally handing you free money to try and get you to keep playing because better to lose 1% of monopoly on the entire money supply than it crashing and losing 100%.  

Hell, it might even work for a little while, but once economic systems become that monopolized, it seems pretty doomed and inevitable to flip to a new currency unit just in order to continue.  That's the problem, though.  What the hell can it flip to?  The entire purpose of the invisible hand of the market forcing an implosion and flip to a new currency unit is to have one that isn't monopolized so the system can continue.

If you just flipped from US dollars instantly to physical metals today, it would be rough since such a huge portion of the population doesn't own any so you haven't really fixed the monopolization problem.  Even less people own digital shitcoins because mining is designed to centralize.  If you did the flip, it would be completely impossible to force only gold as money if your goal was to lessen monopolization so an ecnomic system can continue at all.  You would be required to utilize both gold, silver, and copper (many of the physical coins already are copper).

[bitserve]

^ This guy is still here with the same rambling?!?!

[Kylapoiss]

I was 20y old, saw some teenagers chasing a rat on the street. I had done some X and was nicely drunk as well, I thought I'd show them how to catch the rat and throw it on the wall (very smart behaviour). After couple of minutes of chasing I caught the rat who ofcourse bit me on the instant. The rat got away, didn't make anything serious about it, just continued my druggy weekend. When woke up the next Monday had a small fever, which rose from 37 to 40 in about an hour, called myself an ambulance and then passed out. Got some kind of shot but wasn't taken to hospital, they told me if it gets more serious I'd have to go there myself. When I woke up on Tuesday I had red spots all over my body, went to hospital myself and gave blood to be tested. They started treating me against rabies but told me I had no symptoms against it and they really didn't know what's wrong with me. Then the blood got sent to UK and after 48h I got the results. Was hospitalised for 10 days.

[Kylapoiss]

I never would come to the 100k party under my alias in this forum, my opsec was crushed long ago. Like said, I don't care if this user is connected with my real life persona, doesn't change a thing.

Oh and good luck getting my name from any records, you'd have to hack the hospital records I was in, it was never in any news or made public.

[bitserve]

I was 20y old, saw some teenagers chasing a rat on the street. I had done some X and was nicely drunk as well, I thought I'd show them how to catch the rat and throw it on the wall (very smart behaviour). After couple of minutes of chasing I caught the rat who ofcourse bit me on the instant. The rat got away, didn't make anything serious about it, just continued my druggy weekend. When woke up the next Monday had a small fever, which rose from 37 to 40 in about an hour, called myself an ambulance and then passed out. Got some kind of shot but wasn't taken to hospital, they told me if it gets more serious I'd have to go there myself. When I woke up on Tuesday I had red spots all over my body, went to hospital myself and gave blood to be tested. They started treating me against rabies but told me I had no symptoms against it and they really didn't know what's wrong with me. Then the blood got sent to UK and after 48h I got the results. Was hospitalised for 10 days.

Rabies does not show symptoms so fast. It takes usually more than a weeks up to a few months. Problem is that when it does show symptoms it can really kill you very fast if it is too late (which usually is).

Never heard about your disease. Hope you got fully cured with no consequences.