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OT: China scrapping zero Covid policies announced in the last month of 2022. Expecting a full reopening early next year before or around Chinese New Year.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/business/china-travel-covid-quarantine/index.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/hong-kong-scraps-covid-curbs-revive-economic-hub

Color me shocked. Shocked I tells ya! What timing!   Roll Eyes    Tongue

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OT: The rest of the world's financial markets are more connected to and dependent on China than we're led to believe.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-pivots-china-issues-sweeping-property-rescue-package-kickstart-economy


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December 28, 2022, 02:14:04 PM
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Devil is in the details.
for the first time they actually sold some Bitcoin!


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Glad I didn't buy any Tesla shares. Fuck sake. It's in a total death spiral now.

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starts to look like a shitcoin chart

When Elon was complaining that Tesla was on the verge of bankruptcy when Fed rates were at 0%, just imagine what sustained rates at 5%+ are going to do for his company if things don't change soon. 🤷

Also let's not forget that Elon sold a shit ton of Tesla stock (as well as bitcoin) at the end of 2021, supposedly for "tax purposes".  Roll Eyes

Was he an absolute financial genius with expert market timing?

No. He was tipped off by insiders of where markets were going to go in 2022 and beyond.
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who of you hat wearers would be interested in an individual ColdKey hat edition? Grin
some info & another releases from ColdKey could be found here:
[ANN] History Coldkey - A testimony to Bitcoin - Time for change has come !
[ANN / WTS] Bas Coldkey -- Reeeee: Collectible Cards of Bitcointalk Users.

i would first like to know/see only with it how big the resonance would be Wink

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I typically think that bitboy is a bit obnoxious, pushing s-tcoins, yada, yada, but here is a pretty good summation of, basically, three possibilities for bitcoin in 2023 and going forward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN1aowWFA2U

I happen to agree with a conventional "cycle" scenario as being the most likely.
We shall see.



without actually watching the video (don't wanna contribute by giving him a view)  ....let me guess... 3 possibilities.... is it up, down, and sideways ??


nope

damn.... you are teasing me

 

 Apparently there are 3 prevailing theories for the direction of BTC.
 1 BTC tanks further and doesn't recover to a new ATH until 2028
 2 BTC has bottomed and we make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle) *
 3 BTC hasn't bottomed (a black swan event causes further declines) but we still make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle with a near death experience? lol)

* bitboy's prediction.


 It's a lot of sideways and maybe some down followed by some up. 
 HODL

 
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who of you hat wearers would be interested in an individual ColdKey hat edition? Grin
some info & another releases from ColdKey could be found here:
[ANN] History Coldkey - A testimony to Bitcoin - Time for change has come !
[ANN / WTS] Bas Coldkey -- Reeeee: Collectible Cards of Bitcointalk Users.

i would first like to know/see only with it how big the resonance would be Wink

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 I may be slightly biased but I think it's a wonderful idea Smiley
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 Apparently there are 3 prevailing theories for the direction of BTC.
 1 BTC tanks further and doesn't recover to a new ATH until 2028
 2 BTC has bottomed and we make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle) *
 3 BTC hasn't bottomed (a black swan event causes further declines) but we still make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle with a near death experience? lol)

* bitboy's prediction.


 It's a lot of sideways and maybe some down followed by some up. 
 HODL

 

I think scenario 2 or 3 are most likely. I’m leaning towards scenario 3, I think more pain due to the situation the world financial markets are in. The US haven’t even admitted we’re in a recession yet.
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who of you hat wearers would be interested in an individual ColdKey hat edition? Grin
some info & another releases from ColdKey could be found here:
[ANN] History Coldkey - A testimony to Bitcoin - Time for change has come !
[ANN / WTS] Bas Coldkey -- Reeeee: Collectible Cards of Bitcointalk Users.

i would first like to know/see only with it how big the resonance would be Wink

BTCump
for those who missed it on the last page Wink

 I may be slightly biased but I think it's a wonderful idea Smiley


since some users here may no longer look in, it is certainly difficult to reach all hat wearers... Tongue
then i might have to list them all here and hope that they all use the bitcointalk telegram bot from TryNinja and get triggered by it Cheesy
and there are since the time also certainly new hats added
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Is this his first BTC sell?

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1608139473908555777
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December 28, 2022, 04:48:43 PM
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The 2022 was very rough for Bitcoin. Almost all institutional investors turned out to be ponzis. How and when the trust in Bitcoin offering institutions will be restored, I have no idea. I think the first few months of the next year will give us a hint what will happen in 2025. If the steady downward continues there are chances 2023 to end up with lower prices than now. And this will cast a doubt whether the halving will lead to a new ATH. May be this will be the first time for this pattern to break?

Now, it is clear to everyone that the price is no longer a function of demand/supply only. There are quite a few big players manipulating the price. Some of them do it legally, others completely illegaly. For example, the fishy everyday liquidation of the longs in 2022 was due to the war between 3AC and Almeida. The worst part is that Almeida shorted thousands of paper Bitcoins. Hopefully, the foul players will be all out of the play and this will bring a healing to the market. Then we can hope for a new ATH in 2025 and possibly an exponential bull run with ATH's above 150K.

But I'm a bit sceptical about the exent of the next bull run. First of all, there is always our arch enemy China with their pannic ban announcements every time bitcoin is in the bull territory for more than a month. Their whole economy is a tower of cards and they are terrified of bitcoin like satan of Jesus. And whether we wish it or not, hundreds of millions chinese will find a way to purchase Bitcoins during the bull run and then dump it with a huge loss when each monday PBOC publishes a newsletter how it will ban bitcoins, vpn's and put in jail the users of vpn's. Second, Bitcoin is a threat to the world fiat empire and there always be old corrupt clowns like Gensler, US and EU bakners etc. who seek a way to ban via POW enviroment arguments. And finally, there always be plenty of morons to trust other liars with their money, creating a cluster of ponzis which will collapse in the same way as FTX, Almeida, 3AC, terra, etc.

So, I expect the next bull run to start somewhere in 2025 with a possible delay to 2029 if there are other major issues. Then the bear market will come again, unless all the above scenarious change by then. I dream of a world with Bitcoin recognized as the only true money and becoming invincible to any FUD. Bitcoin survived all kind of trials and storms, and it will survive any other storm on the way. So, no need to worry about fiat savings and expenses. Just keep hodling+DCAing and all will be fine.
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And finally, there always be plenty of morons to trust other liars with their money, creating a cluster of ponzis which will collapse in the same way as FTX, Almeida, 3AC, terra, etc.


"ponzi" isnt what this seems to have been.

 this is just time tested and traditional olde skool embezzlement. "sometimes old tricks are the best tricks"
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That reminds me to tell you to:  "go suck a bag of dicks."
Are you really that thick? This was exactly what the gif stood for.

Well, maybe that's why it reminded me to tell you such a thing?  Duh.

yea.. whatever.
No, no, not whatever. This is my main point about the merit system.

Your main points sucks bags of dicks, then. #justsaying

What do you know with your largely ongoing distracting disinformative spoutings (or should I describe them as whimperings?)?
Do you know that your quantum processor is stuck in a loop, parroting your directives, like a bad old broken record?
I’d have more chances talking to a fucking concrete wall.

What I do know is that each of us have our positive points and our limitations and some of those are features and some are bugs. Repetitiveness could fall into either category - especially when having to respond a droning dweeb, like ur lil selfie.

Sure, the merit system has issues, ~
You don’t fucking say!

I do say.  That's why I said it.

~ but then what would be the solution smartie panties (aka uie-pooie - Antisthenes)? 
Abolish it all together, and bring back equality amongst the members of the community.
Scammers would then be on the same boat as everybody else, users would not be distracted by their precious merit count, and hopefully they would do their own research before “trusting” anything.

That's both not going to happen, and it is dumb.  Wow.  You scored two points simultaneously with that lame-ass suggestion.

Likely there is no real easy solution, ~
Sure there is, you fuck-head, read above.

Ok.  Maybe I used the wrong words?   so let me clarify.  Easy solutions need to be smart and practical too, and also to have the potential of at least not making things worse.  What you propose seems to make things worse... and probably because you fail/refuse to see that the current merit system is already providing a benefit in terms of reducing scammers, spammers and shills - which seems to be most of the reason that it was introduced.  We can agree to disagree on this point.  It's not like we are going to make progress in discussing it, and your whining about your NOT liking the status quo... so fucking what.  You are a brand new member who has no reputation anyhow.  You can go to any platform to build your reputation, especially if you are starting from zero.  How long have you been here?  like a week, right?  I just looked at your profile.. registration date 12/21/22. One week ago, as I type this post.

That's bullshit.  It does the exact opposite, you dimwit. 
Gee, let me think for a sec … it does not.

Don't think too long.  I already noticed that thinking very long will likely hurt you.**

**I am just trying to look out for others.  I am "caring" like that sometimes.
Allow me to pick my favourite scam facilitator - nutildah - and his close friend suchmoon, with her dog Blackhatcoiner, as an example.
Can’t be fucked to check exactly, but they must have around 20k merits combined. Don’t you think, that when either of them posts something, the noob account reading it - is bound to “trust” them for their word? For what? Why? Because they have “precious merits”? Why is there a need to establish “trust” based on merits, if not because merits can be manipulated into establishing fake trust? Exactly as the scammers like it.

I am not opposed to the idea of theymos rotating merit sources, especially if he believes that some of us have accumulated too many merits and we are likely receiving way more credibility than we deserve..

So without really getting into the character of each or any of those specific members that you mentioned, I do not disagree with the general point that you are making in this particular example.

How about you remember that you're not the boss of me. 
I would have broken you into tiny pieces, a long time ago, if I were “your boss”. Remember that.

Fantasy thoughts of violence.  Don't really seem healthy, but hey, whatever.

You do you.

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Also, while we are at it, you might as well remember that we are in a public thread too, ~
Yeah yeah yeah, I’m aware of the pitch.

It's not a "pitch."  It's a statement to acknowledge where we be actually at - as I type this post.

~ you come off as delirious about 9 out of 10 of your posts ~
The constant repeating of your positions,

Hm?  I had not realized.

along with the closed loop of directives,

Closed.  I don't think so.

I am pretty closed to shitcoins, even though I do entertain a little bit of some of the talk around shitcoins - not easy to completely avoid or ignore.

makes me think that I’m on the right track, yo.

I doubt it.

Of course.. believe what you like.

You can smear me all you want, but that won’t change the fact, that you’re stuck with an annoying and uncomfortable - apparently - voice of truth.

You don't bother me... that much.. being annoyed from time to time is part of any interactions. It's pretty much a nothing burger in regards to whatever point that you are trying to make in regards to my having some kinds of materially relevant feelings towards uie-pooie.

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