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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (2.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.5%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.9%)
$85K to $90K - 8 (11.8%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (17.6%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (17.6%)
>$100K - 31 (45.6%)
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April 24, 2023, 03:11:11 AM

I was "playing" with bitcoin numbers and have some thoughts on the matter.

Tops ($): 31, 1160, 19780, 68900

To me, it looks like the ATH number 'should have been' $154000 instead of $68900 in the prior peak.
Therefore, it suggests that it was not a "natural" progression, but interference from multiple sources (we all know that Chinese interfered first by shutting down mining and then the rally simply run out of steam due to time constrains plus the beginning of a tightening cycle). In the case of "natural progression" the multiplier might have been 7.8X in a 37X, 17X, 7.8X series-those are multiples from the prior post-halving ATH (and I don't count first peak in 2013). Therefore, the next (2024-2025) peak theoretically should be a 3.58X of the prior peak (which should have been 154K), suggesting a higher bound value of 551K and a lower bound of 246.9K (a product of 68.9X3.58). This suggests that if left alone, bitcoin could produce a super-cycle to "compensate" for the prior cycle underachievement.

However, the trough series are more menacing:
Bottoms: 2, 175, 3200, 15700 (tentatively)

Therefore, the multiple in these series are 87.5X, 18.3X and 4.9X, suggesting that the next trough would be maybe at 1.6X of 15700 or 24600.
If next trough to peak is 0.3 (7 percentage points better than 77% in the current cycle), this would suggest ATH of "only" 82K, which would be a disappointment to many, including myself.

TL;DR The cycle got messed with last time and it is not clear if there would be a "rebound' to the "natural" progression in the form of a 'super-cycle" or not. If yes, then 246-551K is achievable and if not, we might peak at much more pedestrian 82K.




so 82-246-551 are your three separate possible tops for 2025.

essentially.
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I was "playing" with bitcoin numbers and have some thoughts on the matter.

Tops ($): 31, 1160, 19780, 68900

To me, it looks like the ATH number 'should have been' $154000 instead of $68900 in the prior peak.
Therefore, it suggests that it was not a "natural" progression, but interference from multiple sources (we all know that Chinese interfered first by shutting down mining and then the rally simply run out of steam due to time constrains plus the beginning of a tightening cycle). In the case of "natural progression" the multiplier might have been 7.8X in a 37X, 17X, 7.8X series-those are multiples from the prior post-halving ATH (and I don't count first peak in 2013). Therefore, the next (2024-2025) peak theoretically should be a 3.58X of the prior peak (which should have been 154K), suggesting a higher bound value of 551K and a lower bound of 246.9K (a product of 68.9X3.58). This suggests that if left alone, bitcoin could produce a super-cycle to "compensate" for the prior cycle underachievement.

However, the trough series are more menacing:
Bottoms: 2, 175, 3200, 15700 (tentatively)

Therefore, the multiple in these series are 87.5X, 18.3X and 4.9X, suggesting that the next trough would be maybe at 1.6X of 15700 or 24600.
If next trough to peak is 0.3 (3 percentage points better than 77% in the current cycle), this would suggest ATH of "only" 82K, which would be a disappointment to many, including myself.

TL;DR The cycle got messed with last time and it is not clear if there would be a "rebound' to the "natural" progression in the form of a 'super-cycle" or not. If yes, then 246-551K is achievable and if not, we might peak at much more pedestrian 82K.

I don't agree with several of your ways of getting to your final conclusions, but I do appreciate your showing your work and your overall conclusion ended up coming out to be fairly reasonable, too.... so go figure?   

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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so 82-246-551 are your three separate possible tops for 2025.
essentially.

Even though I get the sense that "we" experienced pretty traumatic events in the last year (in terms of our BTC price DOWNity - including bringing "us" way below the 200 WMA and keeping us there for way longer than seems reasonable (like in the ballpark of 9 months)), I still speculated that BTC is not any less bullish (or less strength of its investment thesis) than it was in 2020 and 2021, so accordingly, there really should be no need to make my December 16, 2021 numbers into less bullish and/or more wimpy than they were at the time that I posted them (can be seen here)..

In udder wurds, at this point, I cannot justify describing this cycle as having less UPpity potential than I had been describing in that December 16, 2021 post.. so maybe I am falling into a kind of selection bias.. or a bias in which I am too stubborn to move off of my previous numbers (because pride and/or wanting to be right.. but I don't believe that I am that kind of person.. in terms of my feeling that I am still inclined to have the facts/logic drive my assessments rather than my preferences),. so in some sense, either I am sticking with my earlier numbers or there might even be some kind of a justifiable need to move my numbers higher than I had made them on December 16, 2021, no?

This is bitcoin right?  Don't we have higher and higher price points?  Don't we have Lindy Effect?  Why would all of the ongoing sloppiness and desperateness with the money cause bitcoin's investment thesis to become weaker rather than stronger with the passage of time, even if the bearwhale fucktwats are surely taking as much advantage as they can to ongoingly manipulate the BTC price down as much as they can and for as long as they can.. but still I doubt that the chances for their getting away with DOWNity manipulation has become stronger, merely because the rhetoric seems to be stronger, currently.... The rhetoric (and the doom and gloom) always seems to be strong, even when the BTC price ends up going on variations of "upward tears".. and I am not even taking for granted that there is any kind of guarantee that we will even get back up to our previous $69k ATH.. since there are no guarantees in this "game" while at the same time, the upside scenarios do not really seem to either be off the table or needing to be tempered merely because more and more powerful no coiners, bitcoin naysayers and shitcoin pumpeners seem to be either becoming more aware of the power of king daddy or taking stronger anti-bitcoin actions in recent times... the odds for their success to keep king daddy down do not really seem to be getting stronger, even if we might be able to acknowledge and recognize that "they" are talking a BIGGER game.. and perhaps even taking some seemingly more draconian measures.
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We would like to see $100k, but $30k is close to us Brathers.
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I’m starting to worry that the correction might go deeper. I’m usually a good reverse indicator though so it probably means the bottom is in for now  Grin Cheesy

Hoping for a rally back to $30,000 this week. We do not want to see the prove move down to the lower $20,000’s.

HODL strong boys!
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I’m starting to worry that the correction might go deeper. I’m usually a good reverse indicator though so it probably means the bottom is in for now  Grin Cheesy

Hoping for a rally back to $30,000 this week. We do not want to see the prove move down to the lower $20,000’s.

HODL strong boys!

Agreed.
Since my DCA will trigger next Monday, the price should be back over $30k before.
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