[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[AndreyNag]

At March 26, we will plug on all power on p2pool. Join us!
The more we have, the more luck! Even one miner could turn the tide!
For those interested we can arrange a port to the proxy. Write in PM.

[AndreyNag]

Hello.
To connect to p2pool via proxy on our server. Write to me in PM your wallet address. In response you will receive the address with Your port. For example: che2pool.mine.nu:3345. Control of work at: http://che2pool.mine.nu:9332/
As a backup we recommend you to choose the nearest any other p2pool node. Select the node for the ping here http://poolnode.info/
The meaning of proxy fixes antminer software when working on p2pool'e and aggregation capacity to improve the effectiveness of the story in this case appears as one with great power and work on one wallet.
Gradually, the power to enter makes no sense. No time to wait. Either connect immediately or not do it at all. Note that in the case of partial connection of your remaining miners will compete and interfere with the fact that connected to p2pool! The efficiency of your miners and the pool will be severely reduced. The lack of power in p2pool 10% will reduce the chance of success many times more. Look at the graph of this purse 1DaDnQK8GyCuAtdAfBubBYAehjY5gCpGsb (http://che2pool.mine.nu:9332/). There are some S7 are stable for many days. You already ran all the tests! Periodically, about once or twice a day on the settings page of the miner to click Save&Apply. Happens restarting cgminer daemon without rebooting the miner. If the miner working steadily at a frequency of about 4.7 Th and makes too many errors, and to restart it is not necessary. About three days wallet will only acquire shares. Therefore, the block need to be ready to get high. See weekly charts of the miners on the node, increasing the expected payout. http://che2pool.mine.nu:9332/...
It is our wishes.
Good luck!

[AndreyNag]

Hi, kids!
Are you ready to rock&roll?

[donatebitcointome]

Sorry for this noob question.
I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

If this is the case, is there really nothing that could be done ?

It would be nice if there's a fix to this problem and maybe one day we can see p2pool global hashrate can reach maybe 100-200 Ph/s across all available node.

[AndreyNag]

If you want to be a businessman you have to make a business. All of us have to put all his power to p2pool NOW! When you deside to connect to p2pool may be late. Time is very quickly thing.

[sawa]

I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

This applies to any variant of mining, including a solo.

[-ck]

I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

This applies to any variant of mining, including a solo.

Nonsense. Pooled mining is nothing like that, except in the case of p2pool.

[donatebitcointome]

I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

This applies to any variant of mining, including a solo.

Nonsense. Pooled mining is nothing like that, except in the case of p2pool.

ck, could you kind enough to explain to me about this scaling issue, preferably in noob wording lol...

[-ck]

ck, could you kind enough to explain to me about this scaling issue, preferably in noob wording lol...

In a regular pool, the more hashrate the pool has, the less variation there is in each miner's payouts. In p2pool it is biphasic. Initially as the hashrate of the pool increases your variation decreases, and then as the hashrate gets larger again, variation starts increasing again. If all miners were on p2pool, it'd be like they were solo mining at 1/20th of the current network diff which would be horrific variation. It's one of the limitations of the p2pool design that's been talked about, thrashed out and debated about for years on end without a solution.

[AndreyNag]

I have question to all forum member.
Why do you use p2pool if you don't want to make efforts.
Everyone knows that to be successful you need the power, but nobody wants to give. We have collected more 200Th, and you are left with p2pool. Look at the graph of power pool!
What happend? Tell me please!

[donatebitcointome]

I have question to all forum member.
Why do you use p2pool if you don't want to make efforts.
Everyone knows that to be successful you need the power, but nobody wants to give. We have collected more 200Th, and you are left with p2pool. Look at the graph of power pool!
What happend? Tell me please!

Don't you think it is better to ask your group first before you ask here lol?
the one that you list going to contribute around 1000 th/s ?

I've been seeing the p2pool hash is always around 500 - 1000 th/s for quite sometime even before you post this.
there's a spike of hash power increase yesterday but only like 12 hour duration and it drop again like usual. So where is this hash power that you are talking about.
Don't u think the global p2pool hash should be 1500++ th/s if its all goes to p2pool ?

[AndreyNag]

Don't you think it is better to ask your group first before you ask here lol?
the one that you list going to contribute around 1000 th/s?

I've been seeing the p2pool hash is always around 500 - 1000 th/s for quite sometime even before you post this.
there's a spike of hash power increase yesterday but only like 12 hour duration and it drop again like usual. So where is this hash power that you are talking about.
Don't u think the global p2pool hash should be 1500++ th/s if its all goes to p2pool ?

On the forum, except some enthusiasts, the same talkers as here.
Goodbye.

[sawa]

I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

This applies to any variant of mining, including a solo.

Nonsense. Pooled mining is nothing like that, except in the case of p2pool.

What nonsense? Difficulty is increased not by all miners, but only by those who added the extra power. With increasing difficulty of the coin in any type of the pool, those who did not extend their power will receive a smaller payment.
And this situation is both in p2pools and in the regular pools and in solo mode. If you want to get more benefits or to stay in the same level - increase the power of your equipment.

[sawa]

ck, could you kind enough to explain to me about this scaling issue, preferably in noob wording lol...

In a regular pool, the more hashrate the pool has, the less variation there is in each miner's payouts. In p2pool it is biphasic. Initially as the hashrate of the pool increases your variation decreases, and then as the hashrate gets larger again, variation starts increasing again. If all miners were on p2pool, it'd be like they were solo mining at 1/20th of the current network diff which would be horrific variation. It's one of the limitations of the p2pool design that's been talked about, thrashed out and debated about for years on end without a solution.

Oh, how skillfully you mislead people. This statement is false, because those miners who did not increase their capacity with the increasing of the total power of the pool, will get fewer benefits in any system of charges.
At very high magnification power of a regular pool, there is a possibility that the weak miners (those who do not increase capacity) did not receive payments.
For example, if I will mine on your CKPool with the usual CPU this is the same thing as I tried solo mining.

[-ck]

ck, could you kind enough to explain to me about this scaling issue, preferably in noob wording lol...

In a regular pool, the more hashrate the pool has, the less variation there is in each miner's payouts. In p2pool it is biphasic. Initially as the hashrate of the pool increases your variation decreases, and then as the hashrate gets larger again, variation starts increasing again. If all miners were on p2pool, it'd be like they were solo mining at 1/20th of the current network diff which would be horrific variation. It's one of the limitations of the p2pool design that's been talked about, thrashed out and debated about for years on end without a solution.

Oh, how skillfully you mislead people. This statement is false, because those miners who did not increase their capacity with the increasing of the total power of the pool, will get fewer benefits in any system of charges.
At very high magnification power of a regular pool, there is a possibility that the weak miners (those who do not increase capacity) did not receive payments.
For example, if I will mine on your CKPool with the usual CPU this is the same thing as I tried solo mining.

Excuse me, but basically you seem to have no idea what you're talking about and it's hard to know if it's a language problem, ignorance or a combination of both. The solo pool I run is not regular pooled mining so it's pointless bringing that into the discussion. You asked for a simple explanation of why there's a scaling issue and I gave you the simplest possible explanation of what's wrong without describing at depth why. If you wish to understand further, please feel free to understand how pooled mining at other pools and p2pool work before arguing with me. I will not argue this further with you so feel free to have the final word which will make you feel like you've won the argument... until you educate yourself.

[jonnybravo0311]

I've been reading about this p2pool difficulty scaling issue. It said the more hash power being put in, the more harder it gets and by the time it is high enough, it will be like solo mining.

This applies to any variant of mining, including a solo.

Nonsense. Pooled mining is nothing like that, except in the case of p2pool.

What nonsense? Difficulty is increased not by all miners, but only by those who added the extra power. With increasing difficulty of the coin in any type of the pool, those who did not extend their power will receive a smaller payment.
And this situation is both in p2pools and in the regular pools and in solo mode. If you want to get more benefits or to stay in the same level - increase the power of your equipment.

Your statements about rising difficulty decreasing your expected earnings are accurate.  However, what you are missing is that because of the design of p2pool, the higher the hashrate of the pool, the more variance you as a miner will experience.  This is completely the opposite of what happens in a more "traditional" pool.

The formula for finding a share on p2pool follows exactly the same probabilisitic distribution as solving a block of bitcoin.  The simplified version of the formula is:

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Difficulty * 2^32 / hashrate = time

As you can see, the higher the difficulty, the longer it's going to take you to find a share if your hash rate remains a constant.  This translates directly into you as a miner seeing higher variance because it becomes harder and harder for you to find a share.

As Con correctly points out, if every single miner in the world suddenly started mining on p2pool then it would be very similar to each miner solo mining a coin roughly 1/20 the difficulty of Bitcoin.

[CartmanSPC]

In p2pool it is biphasic. Initially as the hashrate of the pool increases your variation decreases, and then as the hashrate gets larger again, variation starts increasing again

Thanks ck (and Cortana)! I learned a new word today.

[jlocana]

Hello to all miner.  New p2pool in New York at http://prbitcoin.com:9332/static/  by ME  Jose Luis Ocaña from Puerto Rico

Let me know any information to make it better.

Thanks

http://bitcoinpr.net
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p2pool@bitcoinpr.net 

[Namdher]

Hi, i'm from venezuela and i have a large farm. But really i don't understand how can i mine with p2pool, i need to know if you can help me with my problem. I want mine with my own p2pool node but i need an interface for stats. I researched but do not quite understand how. someone you could guide me ?
Thanks

[dbct]

Hi, i'm from venezuela and i have a large farm. But really i don't understand how can i mine with p2pool, i need to know if you can help me with my problem. I want mine with my own p2pool node but i need an interface for stats. I researched but do not quite understand how. someone you could guide me ?
Thanks

hey mate

contact me via skype darkblade2k73 and i will try to get you settled in to the p2pool

with kind regards,

rudolf