AMD Rebrand - RX570 / RX580 - Official Thread

[Apneal]

those wattage figures seem crazy high for non dual mining , maybe lower the core and mem ,mem should be no higer than 2050

The heck you mean mem shouldnt be higher than any value? Eth rate is almost directly proportional to memclock adjustments, crank that shit up! 1MH/s Eth pays for ~30W of power, go nuts.

[MPeon]

so sad the 470's are overpriced now guess gotta pick 5xx's

[Xardas2014]

I've tried to read as much about these new cards as I can, but health reasons prevent me from being thorough(recent double heart by-pass surgery).

At this point, what cards seem to be the best bang for the buck? Which are getting the best modded results for dual mining. Earlier I gave my initial results on cards I bought day one, but am curious what cards have turned out to be better than others.............for example in 4xx cards the Sapphires were the best(debatable whether 470 or 480 was best for the buck.)

[miner417]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

[Xardas2014]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

I have had no problem with bios checks. I've vbios modded over 20 cards and run the latest drivers without issue. I do however disagree with your 570 assumption, but in the post just above I asked for tested numbers. 480 power efficiency and slightly higher hash more than paid for the extra cost versus the cheaper 470's.

[miner417]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

I have had no problem with bios checks. I've vbios modded over 20 cards and run the latest drivers without issue. I do however disagree with your 570 assumption, but in the post just above I asked for tested numbers. 480 power efficiency and slightly higher hash more than paid for the extra cost versus the cheaper 470's.

Currently I have 470's and 480's running, all 4gb versions of the cards, and MOST of my 470's are more efficient in a hash/watt ratio than my 480's, I do have a couple 470's that just pull massive amounts of power for seemingly no reason. I was assuming the same would be said with that 470-570 since it's just a rebrand.

Also you're saying you have 5 series cards working fine with a modded bios on the latest drivers?

[Xardas2014]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

I have had no problem with bios checks. I've vbios modded over 20 cards and run the latest drivers without issue. I do however disagree with your 570 assumption, but in the post just above I asked for tested numbers. 480 power efficiency and slightly higher hash more than paid for the extra cost versus the cheaper 470's.

Currently I have 470's and 480's running, all 4gb versions of the cards, and MOST of my 470's are more efficient in a hash/watt ratio than my 480's, I do have a couple 470's that just pull massive amounts of power for seemingly no reason. I was assuming the same would be said with that 470-570 since it's just a rebrand.

Also you're saying you have 5 series cards working fine with a modded bios on the latest drivers?

I don't buy 4gb cards, for nothing more than resale value, that is insane. Yes, search my posts in this thread. I listed the cards I bought and all were modded and use the latest drivers. Not that I'm found of AMD's latest and greatest driver attempts, but the new cards won't work with older drivers.

[miner417]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

I have had no problem with bios checks. I've vbios modded over 20 cards and run the latest drivers without issue. I do however disagree with your 570 assumption, but in the post just above I asked for tested numbers. 480 power efficiency and slightly higher hash more than paid for the extra cost versus the cheaper 470's.

Currently I have 470's and 480's running, all 4gb versions of the cards, and MOST of my 470's are more efficient in a hash/watt ratio than my 480's, I do have a couple 470's that just pull massive amounts of power for seemingly no reason. I was assuming the same would be said with that 470-570 since it's just a rebrand.

Also you're saying you have 5 series cards working fine with a modded bios on the latest drivers?

I don't buy 4gb cards, for nothing more than resale value, that is insane. Yes, search my posts in this thread. I listed the cards I bought and all were modded and use the latest drivers. Not that I'm found of AMD's latest and greatest driver attempts, but the new cards won't work with older drivers.

Found the posts you were referencing, so it looks good. If only there was a way to get 6 cards working right now.

In regards to the whole 570-580 4-8, I guess it matters more about what individual needs are. I have a high power cost, so mining with the most efficient card/setting is the biggest deal for me. I understand what you mean about resale. The 8gb cards will sell better than the 4gb ones for sure.

[Xardas2014]

Do the 5 series card's drivers have the Bios check on them? And if so, do they freak out if all you do is a simple strap mod on the bios? Trying to buy some more cards, and 570's seem like the best bet at this point, but trying to go around the bios check is going to be a pain.

I have had no problem with bios checks. I've vbios modded over 20 cards and run the latest drivers without issue. I do however disagree with your 570 assumption, but in the post just above I asked for tested numbers. 480 power efficiency and slightly higher hash more than paid for the extra cost versus the cheaper 470's.

Currently I have 470's and 480's running, all 4gb versions of the cards, and MOST of my 470's are more efficient in a hash/watt ratio than my 480's, I do have a couple 470's that just pull massive amounts of power for seemingly no reason. I was assuming the same would be said with that 470-570 since it's just a rebrand.

Also you're saying you have 5 series cards working fine with a modded bios on the latest drivers?

I don't buy 4gb cards, for nothing more than resale value, that is insane. Yes, search my posts in this thread. I listed the cards I bought and all were modded and use the latest drivers. Not that I'm found of AMD's latest and greatest driver attempts, but the new cards won't work with older drivers.

Found the posts you were referencing, so it looks good. If only there was a way to get 6 cards working right now.

In regards to the whole 570-580 4-8, I guess it matters more about what individual needs are. I have a high power cost, so mining with the most efficient card/setting is the biggest deal for me. I understand what you mean about resale. The 8gb cards will sell better than the 4gb ones for sure.

The 480's are more power efficient than the 470's, same should hold true for the 5xx versions. 8gb is more efficient by a larger margin than a 4gb. A 470 is basically a 480 detuned with less efficient cheaper parts. It has no hope of attaining the same power efficiency rating. That is like choking a v-8 with a single barrel carb and expecting it to get higher mileage because the small carb can process less fuel. It doesn't work that way. The cards are tuned for max efficiency using the best parts available. Replacing those high efficiency parts with cheap knock-off don't raise efficiency, they lower it.

[miner417]

@Xardas - So we stop having huge quote chains.

In my experience, and I admit it's a bit lacking, the 4gb 470's are overall more power efficient than the 4gb 480's. I've never tried an 8gb card, so maybe what you're saying holds true for the 8gb versions. I understand what you're saying, and logically it does make sense, but in my experience right now this is what I have. I can get more concrete numbers tonight if you would like when I'm home.

[AvPro]

Does the SAPPHIRE Pulse RX 580 8GB have Samsung memory?

[MPeon]

Does the SAPPHIRE Pulse RX 580 8GB have Samsung memory?

Would love to know that too, otherwise I am about to pick up some gigabyte xtr aorus - they have samsung on it.

[Xardas2014]

Does the SAPPHIRE Pulse RX 580 8GB have Samsung memory?

Would love to know that too, otherwise I am about to pick up some gigabyte xtr aorus - they have samsung on it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125961 I bought 5 of these @$229 and they are pretty good.

[AvPro]

Does the SAPPHIRE Pulse RX 580 8GB have Samsung memory?

Would love to know that too, otherwise I am about to pick up some gigabyte xtr aorus - they have samsung on it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125961 I bought 5 of these @$229 and they are pretty good.

In my country there is a good swing in price between 4GB and 8GB of these - is the 4GB a major step down from 8GB in hash, or it more resale/future proofing?

[jstefanop]

Sapphire 570 4GB Mini Elpida - strap 1750 - 1110/2040/-96mvgpu/30+target = 26,3-26,4 @ 164w on the wall = 169 USD newegg very nice

Your doing something wrong, I have this card at 29.5 MH @ 130 watts. Definitely the best bang for buck for the current 500 series line.

[Whitehawk29]

Tomorrow I will receive sapphire pulse rx570 4gb and rx580 8gb, i will compare with my rx570 4gb aorus and share result here

[adly3000]

Sapphire 570 4GB Mini Elpida - strap 1750 - 1110/2040/-96mvgpu/30+target = 26,3-26,4 @ 164w on the wall = 169 USD newegg very nice

Your doing something wrong, I have this card at 29.5 MH @ 130 watts. Definitely the best bang for buck for the current 500 series line.

That is the one fan 570? and if yes what about temp and fan set pls?

[jstefanop]

Sapphire 570 4GB Mini Elpida - strap 1750 - 1110/2040/-96mvgpu/30+target = 26,3-26,4 @ 164w on the wall = 169 USD newegg very nice

Your doing something wrong, I have this card at 29.5 MH @ 130 watts. Definitely the best bang for buck for the current 500 series line.

That is the one fan 570? and if yes what about temp and fan set pls?

60c @ 55%

[chudm]

Sapphire 570 4GB Mini Elpida - strap 1750 - 1110/2040/-96mvgpu/30+target = 26,3-26,4 @ 164w on the wall = 169 USD newegg very nice

Your doing something wrong, I have this card at 29.5 MH @ 130 watts. Definitely the best bang for buck for the current 500 series line.

would you share your settings?

[SunStruck]

Does the SAPPHIRE Pulse RX 580 8GB have Samsung memory?

Would love to know that too, otherwise I am about to pick up some gigabyte xtr aorus - they have samsung on it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125961 I bought 5 of these @$229 and they are pretty good.

Oh didnt see they are also in xtx variant, which memory is on yours? (xtr has samsung)