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May 07, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
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Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated:
Guess who is Sicker?






It's never been done before. The first-of-its-kind study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. American homeschooled children shows who is really ailing…and parents should be worried.


Something is wrong with America's children. They are sick – allergic, asthmatic, anxious, autoimmune, autistic, hyperactive, distracted and learning disabled. Thirty-two million American children – a full 43% of them – suffer from at least one of 20 chronic illnesses not including obesity. Across the board, once rare pediatric disorders from autism and ADD to Type 1 diabetes and Tourette's syndrome are soaring, though few studies pool the data. Compared to their parents, children today are four times more likely to have a chronic illness. And while their grandparents might never have swallowed a pill as children, the current generation of kids is a pharmaceutical sales rep's dream come true: More than one million American children under five years old takes a psychiatric drug. More than 8.3 million kids under 17 have consumed psychiatric drugs, and in any given month one in four is taking at least one prescription drug for something.

Fast food, bad genes, too much TV, video games, pesticides, plastics – name the environmental factor and it has been implicated in the surge of sickness, although none adequately explains the scale or scope of the epidemic. There is one exposure, however, that has evaded the search, despite that children have received it by direct injection in steadily accumulating doses far beyond anything past generations ever saw: 50 doses of 14 vaccines by age six, 69 doses of 16 pharmaceutical vaccines containing powerfully immune-altering ingredients by age 18.

We're assured vaccines are "safe and effective" even though public health officials acknowledge they sometimes have serious side-effects including death and despite the troubling fact that no long-term study of their effects on overall health has ever been conducted.  Remarkably, not a single published study has ever compared vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids to see who is healthier years after the shots. Until now.

A pilot study of 666 homeschooled six to 12-year-olds from four American states published on April 27th in the Journal of Translational Sciences, compared 261 unvaccinated children with 405 partially or fully vaccinated children, and assessed their overall health based on their mothers' reports of vaccinations and physician-diagnosed illnesses. What it found about increases in immune-mediated diseases like allergies and neurodevelopmental diseases including autism, should make all parents think twice before they ever vaccinate again:

*Vaccinated children were more than three times as likely to be diagnosed on the Autism Spectrum (OR 4.3)

*Vaccinated children were 30-fold more likely to be diagnosed with allergic rhinitis (hay fever) than non-vaccinated children

* Vaccinated children were 22-fold more likely to require an allergy medication than unvaccinated children

*Vaccinated children had more than quadruple the risk of being diagnosed with a learning disability than unvaccinated children (OR 5.2)


Vaccine ingredients are known to cause brain damage. Robert Kennedy Jr. has been highlighting the dangers of mercury as thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines and its relationship to autism.


Read more at http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker.


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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.


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In my country thanks to the vaccines the number of diseases has been reduced, so I have nothing to complain about the vaccines.


That's the whole point of the study. One disease might be reduced or cancelled out by vaccination, but a whole lot of other disease thrive because of it. And many of those that thrive would never have existed if vaccinations were not around.

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May 07, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
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This website is known for its anti-vaccines propaganda, and so is OP.
Many of its crap articles have been debunked numerous times by real scientific websites.
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This website is known for its anti-vaccines propaganda, and so is OP.
Many of its crap articles have been debunked numerous times by real scientific websites.
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yeah really makes you think.

Part of the reason there are links in the OP, and within the website itself, is so that people can go look at the data without having to guess about propaganda.

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The arguments among anti-vaxxers and curious parents are along the lines of:  "My doctor and every other doctor and a million different real cases and all legitimate medical researchers except those who profit from saying otherwise say that vaccines are good for preventing illnesses, but someone much louder than them said that they're not so I think that every knowledgeable person is wrong".
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The arguments among anti-vaxxers and curious parents are along the lines of:  "My doctor and every other doctor and a million different real cases and all legitimate medical researchers except those who profit from saying otherwise say that vaccines are good for preventing illnesses, but someone much louder than them said that they're not so I think that every knowledgeable person is wrong".

Well let them. Good riddance. I'd rather have my kids be autistic, have learning disability or have allergies than have them horribly die from a disease that could have been prevented by a quick shot.

You bet these people also believe about chemtrails, mutated lizards living under the sewers or having sex with virgins will cure AIDS.

The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the supposed risks. We already saw what happen when they deny kids vaccination.
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The arguments among anti-vaxxers and curious parents are along the lines of:  "My doctor and every other doctor and a million different real cases and all legitimate medical researchers except those who profit from saying otherwise say that vaccines are good for preventing illnesses, but someone much louder than them said that they're not so I think that every knowledgeable person is wrong".

Well let them. Good riddance. I'd rather have my kids be autistic, have learning disability or have allergies than have them horribly die from a disease that could have been prevented by a quick shot.

You bet these people also believe about chemtrails, mutated lizards living under the sewers or having sex with virgins will cure AIDS.

The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the supposed risks. We already saw what happen when they deny kids vaccination.

Except that vitamin D3 plus vitamin C in larger amounts that are normally suggested, cure multitudes of diseases without vaccination. If research had gone into nutrition in the past, like it is starting to do today, vaccination would have never been needed, and the dangers of it would never have been introduced to society.

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Vaccination is obligatory in almost all the countrys, in facts new borns recived a dosis of k vitamin to prevent new born hemorragies.

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Vaccination is obligatory in almost all the countrys, in facts new borns recived a dosis of k vitamin to prevent new born hemorragies.

    Administering vitamin K shots to newborns has been a standard medical procedure in most western countries since 1944. However, according to Vitamin K expert Dr. Cees Vermeer PhD, vitamin K offered orally is a better option for your infant than injection.

    Vitamin K shots are given to infants to prevent Hemorrhagic Disease of the Newborn (HDN).

    Giving newborns a syringe full of vitamin K may cause psychological trauma, give infants 20,000 times more vitamin K dose than what is needed, and create an environment for infections to occur.

    There are safer ways to raise vitamin K levels in newborns; giving vitamin K orally is one way. While breastfeeding enables mothers to transfer low doses of vitamin K to their child, this will depend on the mother’s vitamin K levels.

    Whether you choose to give your baby the shot or give vitamin K orally, gather all the information needed to make informed decisions.

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The arguments among anti-vaxxers and curious parents are along the lines of:  "My doctor and every other doctor and a million different real cases and all legitimate medical researchers except those who profit from saying otherwise say that vaccines are good for preventing illnesses, but someone much louder than them said that they're not so I think that every knowledgeable person is wrong".

Well let them. Good riddance. I'd rather have my kids be autistic, have learning disability or have allergies than have them horribly die from a disease that could have been prevented by a quick shot.

You bet these people also believe about chemtrails, mutated lizards living under the sewers or having sex with virgins will cure AIDS.

The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the supposed risks. We already saw what happen when they deny kids vaccination.

Except that vitamin D3 plus vitamin C in larger amounts that are normally suggested, cure multitudes of diseases without vaccination. If research had gone into nutrition in the past, like it is starting to do today, vaccination would have never been needed, and the dangers of it would never have been introduced to society.

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In another post further down, you yourself said that the vitamin K was for HDN. Vaccines are usually made for diseases that have bacterial or viral causes. Good nutrition can help you fight off an infection but that would not always be the case, as we've seen people die from SARS before.

It's also possible to become well but still be a carrier so might be better to not get infected in the first place. Some diseases also show little symptoms until it has already progressed into a later stage, like hepatitis. By that time you could have already spread it to your family and friends.
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Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated:
Guess who is Sicker?






It's never been done before. The first-of-its-kind study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. American homeschooled children shows who is really ailing…and parents should be worried.


Something is wrong with America's children. They are sick – allergic, asthmatic, anxious, autoimmune, autistic, hyperactive, distracted and learning disabled. Thirty-two million American children – a full 43% of them – suffer from at least one of 20 chronic illnesses not including obesity. Across the board, once rare pediatric disorders from autism and ADD to Type 1 diabetes and Tourette's syndrome are soaring, though few studies pool the data. Compared to their parents, children today are four times more likely to have a chronic illness. And while their grandparents might never have swallowed a pill as children, the current generation of kids is a pharmaceutical sales rep's dream come true: More than one million American children under five years old takes a psychiatric drug. More than 8.3 million kids under 17 have consumed psychiatric drugs, and in any given month one in four is taking at least one prescription drug for something.

Fast food, bad genes, too much TV, video games, pesticides, plastics – name the environmental factor and it has been implicated in the surge of sickness, although none adequately explains the scale or scope of the epidemic. There is one exposure, however, that has evaded the search, despite that children have received it by direct injection in steadily accumulating doses far beyond anything past generations ever saw: 50 doses of 14 vaccines by age six, 69 doses of 16 pharmaceutical vaccines containing powerfully immune-altering ingredients by age 18.

We're assured vaccines are "safe and effective" even though public health officials acknowledge they sometimes have serious side-effects including death and despite the troubling fact that no long-term study of their effects on overall health has ever been conducted.  Remarkably, not a single published study has ever compared vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids to see who is healthier years after the shots. Until now.

A pilot study of 666 homeschooled six to 12-year-olds from four American states published on April 27th in the Journal of Translational Sciences, compared 261 unvaccinated children with 405 partially or fully vaccinated children, and assessed their overall health based on their mothers' reports of vaccinations and physician-diagnosed illnesses. What it found about increases in immune-mediated diseases like allergies and neurodevelopmental diseases including autism, should make all parents think twice before they ever vaccinate again:

*Vaccinated children were more than three times as likely to be diagnosed on the Autism Spectrum (OR 4.3)

*Vaccinated children were 30-fold more likely to be diagnosed with allergic rhinitis (hay fever) than non-vaccinated children

* Vaccinated children were 22-fold more likely to require an allergy medication than unvaccinated children

*Vaccinated children had more than quadruple the risk of being diagnosed with a learning disability than unvaccinated children (OR 5.2)


Vaccine ingredients are known to cause brain damage. Robert Kennedy Jr. has been highlighting the dangers of mercury as thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines and its relationship to autism.


Read more at http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker.


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I still remember during my university, my lecturer ask us to discuss should we vaccinate or don't vaccinate.
Although I was elected into unvaccinate group, I still believe vaccinate is the good practise to protect us.
The community immunity depend on number of people who vaccinate and if we don't receive vaccine and we
are going to spread the disease.
History has told us that vaccine is a good life saver for all human.
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I fully support unvaccinated kiddies. I also fully support imprisoning them in internment camps for the rest of their lives to protect the rest of us.

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I was not vaccinated and I am grateful for being given the opportunity to have a healthy life.

If I have children I will selfishly not vaccinate them so that they have a superior immune system compared to the other children.

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I was not vaccinated and I am grateful for being given the opportunity to have a healthy life.

If I have children I will selfishly not vaccinate them so that they have a superior immune system compared to the other children.
Vaccine is the only effective method of combating infectious diseases. There are no rules without exceptions. Side effects when vaccination there but they are very rare. Think about what to vaccinate your children you take responsibility for a potential epidemic. Are you ready for this?
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I was not vaccinated and I am grateful for being given the opportunity to have a healthy life.

If I have children I will selfishly not vaccinate them so that they have a superior immune system compared to the other children.
Vaccine is the only effective method of combating infectious diseases. There are no rules without exceptions. Side effects when vaccination there but they are very rare. Think about what to vaccinate your children you take responsibility for a potential epidemic. Are you ready for this?

Best way to fight disease is smoking cigarettes.

Oh wait...we're onto another industry selling their miracle cures.

But this time we have a whole booming industry that is protected from lawsuits.

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May 08, 2017, 05:24:06 PM
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Before the vaccination and modern medicine, we had a lifespan of 16 to 17 years. Modern medicine increased the lifespan by at least 5 times. Isolated incidents can't be used as an argument against mass vaccination.

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Before the vaccination and modern medicine, we had a lifespan of 16 to 17 years.

I think world history would look a little different if it had been entirely forged by hormonal brats on the verge of carking it. Your figures might be a little off.

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Before the vaccination and modern medicine, we had a lifespan of 16 to 17 years.

I think world history would look a little different if it had been entirely forged by hormonal brats on the verge of carking it. Your figures might be a little off.

I LOLed my ass off Wink

Just read this article today, this is a perfect example of why getting vaccinated is kind of a 'duh' thing at this day and age.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/measles-sweeps-an-immigrant-community-targeted-by-anti-vaccine-activists/

Raises an interesting point. Does autism go down in communities where vaccination isn't as prevalent/is purposefully avoided? I suspect no, but this metric would go a long way in proving/disproving the link between autism and vaccinations.

The risk truly isn't worth it, people. It's a reason why these particular diseases were singled out, they cause great harm to the populace and are subject to rampant spread.  I think the majority of us would chose autism over possible death, ESP when that risk of autism is so miniscule.
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Before the vaccination and modern medicine, we had a lifespan of 16 to 17 years.

I think world history would look a little different if it had been entirely forged by hormonal brats on the verge of carking it. Your figures might be a little off.

I LOLed my ass off Wink

Just read this article today, this is a perfect example of why getting vaccinated is kind of a 'duh' thing at this day and age.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/measles-sweeps-an-immigrant-community-targeted-by-anti-vaccine-activists/

Raises an interesting point. Does autism go down in communities where vaccination isn't as prevalent/is purposefully avoided? I suspect no, but this metric would go a long way in proving/disproving the link between autism and vaccinations.

The risk truly isn't worth it, people. It's a reason why these particular diseases were singled out, they cause great harm to the populace and are subject to rampant spread.  I think the majority of us would chose autism over possible death, ESP when that risk of autism is so miniscule.

I really just don't understand anti-vaxxers, how they go to that conclusion. Even as a kid I understood it's just like having chickenpox, except that you don't have to go through the process of getting sick. Some diseases are also dangerous since you don't know whether you have them and during all that time you can actually spread them. HPV causes several types of cancer. People in my country usually find they have hepatitis when they finally get liver cancer. My mom got malaria as a kid and so can't donate blood, apparently she's still a carrier. I know malaria can't be vaccinated against but I believe you understand where I'm getting at.
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