Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[tvbcof]

One of these days I'll donate much more than a DVD's worth to these guys and/or other decent people doing decent work for all of our sake, but in the mean time someone has put this work on youtube somewhat covertly it seems:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34LaBsp2Fs

In fact, I'll go ahead and do it now.  Especially if they accept Bitcoin.

Edit:  Just bought a 10-pack to distribute around, especially to my goyim friends.  They probably don't make a ton on bulk orders so I'll contribute directly to other similar efforts.

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[IntuitiveCoins]

Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.

[tvbcof]

Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.

Mortality for most of the 'epidemic' diseases was usually in the {small_int}/10,000 range.  These diseases declined to much less than that with understandings about nutrition and sanitation long before vaccine regimes came into the mix.

Just looking at a few charts makes it clear that allopathic vaccination medical science re-wrote history to take credit for a trend that they had little or nothing to do with.  Don't be a chump.

Now we have a situation where instead of 1/100,000 dying and 1/10,000 being permanently injured from a natural pathogen, we've got more than 1/100 being permanently maimed and wards of the state for life with some autistic spectrum dis-order, auto-immune disease, etc, etc.  Of course if it happens to an upper or middle-class family who have ethics, they expend their resources trying to care for injured family member before the state takes over.  In the process, of course, the banksters and medical/industrial complex doctors end up with whatever property the family had.

[2ballsfrog]

wonder how people survived without vaccines in the past?

[tvbcof]

wonder how people survived without vaccines in the past?

To be fair in an analysis of this issue (and many like it) it is important to mull over this question.

The answer is that a lot of times they didn't.  They died of lots of things.  I suspect that increasing human populations and urbanization which came with agriculture and such were a boon for certain pathogens.  As a first-worlder, I can say that all the way up to my great-grandfather's time 'the weak ones died' to quote him (in what I'm sure was a thick Scandinavian accent although I never knew the man.)

One must understand the mindset of the modern Eugenisist.  They tend to be wealthy and well educated people who are very aware of history.  They will argue that the modern world needs a balancing force to offset the 'negative' effects of technology.  They will feel that in using their wealth and power to provide this offset is a good thing and will be aware of their peers work on 'diet, injection, and injunction...' and many works of such a nature.

The above said, many of the eugenicists are not above making a dime off of their 'good deeds', so one would not be surprised to see a good deal of coordination between the 'philanthropists' and the corporatists (when there is a difference at all) and to see their policies and operations mesh quite nicely and result in a lucrative end goal.  That is, more money and more power for themselves.

A very common mis-understanding of modern day eugenics is that it is geared toward making human kind 'better'.  To Joe Sixpack 'better' means stronger, smarter, etc.  This is not what it means to the average 2017 Eugenicist.  It probably means exactly the opposite.  Stronger and smarter people are a threat.  Stunted and stupid people are not.  I'm not surprised in the least that 'the autism epidemic' continues to grow and somehow the 'research community' cannot seem to figure it out...but they know for sure that it has nothing to do with vaccination.

[yoseph]

Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.

Yes that's indeed very true but we can't also deny the fact or children sometimes get sick and some of them are even handicapped by the very vaccines that was supposed to protect them in the first place and it must be looked into before it becomes wide-spread.

[Nightsik]

Vaccination is obligatory in almost all the countrys, in facts new borns recived a dosis of k vitamin to prevent new born hemorragies.

Yes, indeed. but being vaccinated doesn't mean you can be free from sickness and viruses. Sometimes vaccination  can lead to death, because some vaccines trigger the viruses to spread through out the body that may result to some complications.
So it's not about being vaccinated or unvaccinated to determine who is sicker.

[Cordillera]

In our country today one of the most controversial issue are those vaccinated children are gradually dying. This vaccine was the Sanofi dengvaxia the purpose of this vaccine is to help those individuals who have not been previously infected by dengue virus, vaccination should not be recommended. Vaccine helps to reduce or decline sickness and diseases but we cannot deny the facts that if a child is healthy and s/he was recommended to vaccinated with example the "anti-polio" after the vaccine we can observed that the child was getting fever. I don't think so if who are sicker the vaccinated or unvaccinated, because my grandparents are unvaccinated but until now they are healthy and strong but some of my the child who are vaccinated with many vaccines keeps on having a sickness and some of them died.

[Sithara007]

Vaccination is obligatory in almost all the countrys, in facts new borns recived a dosis of k vitamin to prevent new born hemorragies.

Yes, indeed. but being vaccinated doesn't mean you can be free from sickness and viruses. Sometimes vaccination  can lead to death, because some vaccines trigger the viruses to spread through out the body that may result to some complications.
So it's not about being vaccinated or unvaccinated to determine who is sicker.

Out of the billions of people who are vaccinated, 10 or 20 may die of the complications resulting from it. Make your own choice. Either you go for a 0.000000001% chance of death after vaccination, or a 25% chance of dying as a result of the epidemics. For me, it is a no brainer. There is a very small risk associated with vaccinations. But I'd still go for it.

[Xising]

I've read some articles regarding vaccines and how it affects children and how not having vaccines affect them as well. According to what I have read and surveys children with vaccines are more prone to sickness than those who have not been vaccinated yet. This is why it boggles my mind to think whether they just have invented vaccines for population control.

[FiveReels]

I think it depends, though you are vaccinated but your immune system is weak, still you will catch that certain disease. On the other hand, when you're healthy enough and away from exposure you will be far from catching a disease.

[tvbcof]

I've read some articles regarding vaccines and how it affects children and how not having vaccines affect them as well. According to what I have read and surveys children with vaccines are more prone to sickness than those who have not been vaccinated yet. This is why it boggles my mind to think whether they just have invented vaccines for population control.

As one studies history and the varieties of philosophical thought vis-a-vis ethics, it's not very far-fetched at all.  Indeed, it's fairly traceable in documentary evidence, although it may not be quite fair to say vaccine was 'invented' for this purpose.  Looks like they were latched onto relatively early in the development of the science though.

It is also easy to understand how most of the people who are learned to read/think under 'modern' educational system environments would find the aforementioned concept to be mind-boggling.  Managing mass education/indoctrination is even more of interest to the leadership class than is pharmaceutical based methods of control.  For good reason.

[jlaw007]

Vaccination is fine, in non-US and non-"free-trial/testing/research purpose" countries. Sicker people are those who don't take care of themselves. I'm not sure but why would someone vaccinated get sick if there is an outbreak of that sickness. If you study vaccine and it's history, most of them are effective and you don't need some of them. Some disease are really scary, like, our immune system are not ready for them.

[Pumapipa]

Before the discovery of vaccines, there has been records of high mortality and morbidity rate among the vaccinate diseases like tuberculosis and polio. The discovery of vaccines paved the way for these numbers to be reduced. Vaccines are of big help. That is why i believe that if we are going to compare, there is a low chance of people getting sick if he or she will be vaccinated. Death will be reduced because of this. The numbers showing vaccinated kids get allergic rhinitis,adhd and others, you really cannot link vaccination to that because there are na still a lot of factor to consider.

[tvbcof]

Before the discovery of vaccines, there has been records of high mortality and morbidity rate among the vaccinate diseases like tuberculosis and polio. The discovery of vaccines paved the way for these numbers to be reduced. Vaccines are of big help. That is why i believe that if we are going to compare, there is a low chance of people getting sick if he or she will be vaccinated. Death will be reduced because of this. The numbers showing vaccinated kids get allergic rhinitis,adhd and others, you really cannot link vaccination to that because there are na still a lot of factor to consider.

TB vaccination was never in widespread use in the U.S. and yet the rates of infection fell.  There never was a vaccine for scarlet fever and here again, it's very uncommon these days.

Obviously something besides vaccines (hint: sanitation, nutrition, etc) is responsible for lower rates of infectious diseases.  It is not very rational to claim that infectious diseases for which there are a vaccine regime declined only because of the vaccine regime and not because of other environmental factors.  It is easy to see, however, that vaccination proponents are more than happy to take all the credit and more, and that is the indoctrination which is heavily pumped in schools and in the media.

Funny enough, vaccine proponents are not very keen to take credit for the the SV40 virus which is associated with cancers and which came along for the ride with 50's and 60's polio vaccines.  Nor, for that matter, the various other random viruses which go undetected until millions of people have been shot up.

[innocent93]

It is true that the Pharmaceutical industry is blooming from some time and all i can say that i am lucky to live in Europe. Over here we don't have such kind of national immunization program but, at the same time we must admit that some vaccines are necessary, otherwise prehistoric illnesses becomes in present tens.

[China8888]

Sure.... but going unvaccinated does lead to the spreading of illnesses, diseases and the like. Better to be vaccinated then not in my opinion.

[tvbcof]

It is true that the Pharmaceutical industry is blooming from some time and all i can say that i am lucky to live in Europe. Over here we don't have such kind of national immunization program but, at the same time we must admit that some vaccines are necessary, otherwise prehistoric illnesses becomes in present tens.

Why would it not be a rational strategy to start vaccinating for some 'prehistoric illness' when the problem cropped up?

As for EU, you must not include the U.K..  GSK is big there, and is a big factor in influencing the 'public health' system in that country from what I read.  I'd be surprised if continental nations are not similarly influenced, and in some relationship to how many nationally based multi-national pharma corporations they happen to claim.  Pasteur Sanofri (sic) is based in France IIRC, and they are big in the vaccination market all over the world.  (The specialty manufacturers seem to be the ones who accidentally get enough beta-HCG in the 'tetanus' vaccine to sterilize women, but it mostly happens on shipments bound for places where the darkies live and where there are to many of them.  Kenya, Philippines, Mexico, etc.)

Anyway, as I understand things, pretty much all 'developed nations' have some variant of a socialized medical system and all have a published vaccination schedule which is to be followed with some degree of rigor or another.  I'll bet that in all places a decent percentage of doctors and other medical professionals quietly do NOT vaccinate their own kids.  Or let them eat junk food and do avoid food containers which exude estrogen mimicking chemicals.  There is a reason why the 'anti-vax' movement is primarily an affluent thing.

[Sithara007]

Truth of the matter is that without vaccines there would be a lot more death.

When you have something that's killing thousands and thousands of people and a cure pops up, it is a blessing. You have to put yourself in the shoes of living such epidemics in the 1920s.

Are you referring to the 1918 Influenza Pandemic? It started in 1918, and by the time it subsided in late 1920, it had claimed more than 100,000,000 individuals (out of the 500,000,000 infected). It disproportionately killed the young healthy people. If a vaccine was invented in time, then most of these lives could have been saved.

[Regar]

i have a feeling that vaccinated are bad for kids and human developing since the result of it never counted and published to public, i have a child, in my country we have to vaccinating our child since it is a regulation from our government so we have to vaccine our children even if we like it or not. i have a feeling something wrong happen in our world nowadays generally.