Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[franky1]

These are conspiracy theories and do not expect them to publish any real studies and all the studies they publish will be biased to aide their theory and it has nothing to do with facts and there is a substantial decline in vaccination in recent times because of these belief that vaccination is bad for the child and it will have an implication in the future and i am not willing to take any risk, i was vaccinated as a kid and i am healthy and never been hospitalized till now.

yep
much like studies that stained teeth leads to lung cancer. because many people with lung cancer have stained teeth.
of course the reality is that smoking causes lung cancer and stained teeth. but a study can be manipulated and structured to not reveal the real underlying cause but just come to a conclusion by the slightest hint that a study was done and some evidence was found

did you know inhaling oxygen causes diarrhoea.. tree's dont inhale oxygen and they dont have runny poo's
did you know inhaling carbon dioxide prevents lung cancer. no tree has ever been diagnosed with lung cancer yet the only thing it does inhale is carbon dioxide

see how easy it is to creat fake information based on flimsy evidence
so to all you anti-vaccine freaks. put your money all together and do a full on clinical study with indepth research that has proper substantial evidence and a study that can be replicated by anyone to show its actually provable...
then you might have something to take to government to do something about.
untill then dont try plying people with false stats made up numbers .trying to get people not to have vaccines just so you can be some social warrior

P.S
the reason why many non-vaccinated people may have some significance. is not due to health but the fact that the non-vaccinated groups are usually newborns using mothers breast milk as a temporary source of strong immunity. and because they spend their lives in a bed. not yet even able to explore the world or mix with a diversity of people to even catch anything
let alone be old enough to even show signs of any mental impairments or issues

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[BADecker]

Thanks, Mr Kenedy, for showing us how great the scope of corruption really is around us.


Robert F. Kennedy. Jr. - EXCLUSIVE!!! Excerpt from his Foreword to PLAGUE OF CORRUPTION

With the permission of Robert F. Kennedy. Jr., I've been authorized to allow you a sneak peek at his Foreword to my new book with Dr. Judy Mikovits, PLAGUE OF CORRUPTION.

I'd like to encourage all my readers to begin regularly using the expression, "plague of corruption," to refer to the outright bribery by the pharmaceutical companies of our democracy, our media, and our scientific community.

Foreword
Moral Courage and Our Common Future
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

"And yet, it moves!" Galileo whispered those defiant words in 1615 as he left the Roman Inquisition tribunal before which he repudiated his theory that the earth—the immovable center of the Universe according to contemporary orthodoxy—revolves around the sun. Had he not recanted; his life was forfeit.

We like to think of Galileo's struggles as the quaint artifact of a dark, ignorant, and tyrannical era where individuals challenged government-anointed superstitions only at grave personal risk. Dr. Judy Mikovits' story shows that stubborn orthodoxies anointed by Pharmaceutical companies and corrupt government regulators to protect power and profits remain a dominant force in science and politics.

By any standard, Dr. Judy Mikovits was among the most skilled scientists of her generation. She entered professional science from the University of Virginia with a B.A. degree in Chemistry on June 10, 1980 as a protein chemist for the National Cancer Institute (NCI) working on a life-saving project to purify interferon.

The quality of her work and her reliable flashes of genius soon propelled her to the apex of the male-dominated world of scientific research. At NCI, Mikovits began what would become a twenty-year collaboration with Dr. Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retrovirology. While heading up the lab of Robert Gallo in 1977, Rusectti made scientific history by co-discovering with Bernie Poiesz, the first human retrovirus, HTLV-1 (human T-cell leukemia virus).

A retrovirus is a "stealth virus" that, like HIV, enters the host without alerting the immune systems. It may then lay dormant for years without causing harm. Before killing a person, a retrovirus will usually destroy their immune system. As a result, many retroviruses cause cancer. With an escalating understanding of retrovirus behavior, the Ruscetti/ Mikovits collaboration and Mikovits award-winning PhD thesis from George Washington University in 1991, changed the paradigm of HIV-AIDS treatment, turning the disease from a death sentence into a manageable condition.

From the outset, the most daunting obstacle to Mikovits' career-advancement was her scientific integrity. She always placed it ahead of personal ambition. The first in her blue-collar family to go to attend university, Judy Mikovits never meant to wade into a public health turmoil. She never considered herself a renegade or revolutionary. Judy's relatives mainly worked in government or law enforcement. They believed in bedrock American principles of hard work, respect for authority, and above all, telling the truth. That backdrop made it impossible for her to abandon her high natal standards of honesty and integrity even when they became a hindrance.

After leaving NIH, she worked a stint for Upjohn—leading a project to prove the safety of the company's blockbuster Bovine Growth Hormone. When Mikovits discovered the company's formula could cause precancerous changes in human cell cultures, she refused direct orders from her boss to hide her discoveries. Mikovits' revelation suggested that the ubiquitous presence of the hormone in milk could lead to breast cancer in women who drank it. Her refusal to back down precipitated her departure from Upjohn and her return to NIH and graduate school. Judy's war on BGH eventually led to Upjohn abandoning the product.

In 2009, now in academia, Mikovits and Ruscetti, who was still at NCI, led a team that discovered a strong association between a previously unknown retrovirus and mylagic encephalomyelitis, commonly known as chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). Predictably, the retrovirus was also linked to certain blood cancers. Collaborators had named it Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Related Virus (XMRV), when they first detected in DNA sequences in prostate Cancer a few years earlier.

The medical community had dealt with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which strikes mostly women, in bad faith since its appearance in the mid-1980s. The medical establishment derided ME/CFS as "yuppie flu" and attributed it to the inherent psychological fragility of career women pursuing professions in high pressure corporate ecosystems. Mikovits found evidence for the retrovirus in approximately 67 percent of women afflicted with ME/CFS, and in a little less than 4 percent of the healthy population.

On October 8, 2009, Mikovits and Ruscetti published their explosive findings in the journal Science, describing the first isolation of the recently discovered retrovirus, XMRV, and its association to ME/CFS. Her revelation about ME/CFS immediately triggered angry reaction from jealous cancer power centers, stubborn; resistant to science that attributed cancer and neuro-immune diseases to viruses . . .

I'd like to encourage you to pre-order a copy of PLAGUE OF CORRUPTION, as that determines how much my publisher is likely to spend on the marketing campaign.

Also, every pre-order is counted on the day of the book's release, meaning that if we get enough (hopefully around 7,000 pre-orders) it should end up on the New York Times best-seller list.  (If they don't pull any tricks!)

[BADecker]

The word "neonatal" generally refers to babies (animals as well as human) in their first month of life.


Neonatal Nurse on Vaccines: We are Destroying an Entire Generation of Children

Michelle Rowton is neonatal nurse practioner, specializing in the care of children ages 2 years old and younger. She has worked for over 17 years working in NICU, with pre-mature and sick babies.

Michelle Rowton does not herself give vaccines to babies.

She recently sat down and conducted an interview with Polly Tommey during the VAXXED II film bus tour.

Michelle relates that in her undergraduate training to prepare her to be a nurse, that the only thing she was taught about vaccines was how to give the injections.

When she was in graduate school studying for her master's degree to become a neonatal nurse practioner, she says she was taught "coercive rhetoric" to get the parents to agree with vaccines.

Michelle discusses her early years of working in the NICU with premature babies, and the negative effects vaccines would have on these babies.

Polly then relates how vaccine apologists in the medical field will rationalize giving vaccines to young babies by stating that they have seen many deaths related to vaccine-preventable deaths among unvaccinated babies.

So she asks Michelle how many of these deaths by diseases that are allegedly prevented through vaccination that she has seen during all her years as a nurse, and she replies, "zero."

They're lying. Especially when they bring up chicken pox. I'm like, what nation were you in when that happened? Because it hasn't happened here.

Michelle also works as a Functional Medical Nurse practioner in the field for the past 7 years, where her focus is working with babies out in the field.

I moved out of the hospital and into the clinic, because I got to the point where I thought, this is the same thing over and over again. Yeah, I'm really good at putting in central lines, and putting in chest tubes, and saving these critical babies.

When they get to the convalescence stage, it is terrible what we're doing, and everybody's doing the same thing.

I can have more effect out in the community, in having these babies from birth until two – no antibiotics, no ear infections, no medications, setting them up for life to have a far less chance of autoimmune disease, chronic disease – all of that kind of stuff.

That's what I want to do now.

Michelle has three children of her own, all unvaccinated, and never been on antibiotics.

Michelle started the organization "Nurses Against Mandatory Vaccines," which over the years we have featured numerous times here at Health Impact News, but she says they finally shut the group down because:

Nobody had the balls to actually stand up and do anything. If everybody had stood up and said "we're not going to stand for mandatory flu shots in the hospital," the whole thing would have gone away because they would have had no staff to run the hospital.

Everybody sitting around and doing nothing, collecting their paychecks, they're all complicit in the mass annihilation of an entire generation of children.

She encourages everyone to watch VAXXED II.

We are destroying an entire generation of children.

Listen to the full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHQ4Uc30tM.

[BADecker]

More and more research is showing that vaccines are producing some problems that are worse than what the vaccines are supposed to be protecting us from. And there still aren't any of the government mandated safety tests for vaccines surfacing from the medical or government.


157 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link

[Note that the information presented at the site is extensive. For this reason, none of it has been posted here. Go to the site and see that vaccines are dangerous, even if they are helpful a little.]

[af_newbie]

More and more research is showing that vaccines are producing some problems that are worse than what the vaccines are supposed to be protecting us from. And there still aren't any of the government mandated safety tests for vaccines surfacing from the medical or government.


157 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link

[Note that the information presented at the site is extensive. For this reason, none of it has been posted here. Go to the site and see that vaccines are dangerous, even if they are helpful a little.]

http://thesciencepost.com/biologists-observe-anti-vaccers-making-tools-solving-simple-problems-at-area-zoo/

[BADecker]

More and more research is showing that vaccines are producing some problems that are worse than what the vaccines are supposed to be protecting us from. And there still aren't any of the government mandated safety tests for vaccines surfacing from the medical or government.


157 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link

[Note that the information presented at the site is extensive. For this reason, none of it has been posted here. Go to the site and see that vaccines are dangerous, even if they are helpful a little.]

http://thesciencepost.com/biologists-observe-anti-vaccers-making-tools-solving-simple-problems-at-area-zoo/

In the picture in the article^^, the vaccine promoters are looking out from the cage that the "backward" anti-vaxxers finally pushed them into. The anti-vaxxers are still in the primitive stages of proving all the dangers that are in vaccines, but they are gradually making great strides in getting the truth out. When they advance all the way to modern times, what they show the people will cause the people to rise up and execute the huge pharmaceutical companies.

[BADecker]

Seems that the medical is using flu shots to spread the flu. Check the links in the site.


Over 50,000 Americans die from the flu each year… is it because they got the flu shot first?

Yes, the infamous CDC estimates that 56,000 people die from the flu each year, or at least from “flu-like” illness, but the real statistical information we need is how many of those folks received the influenza vaccine, and how soon afterwards did they croak from it? Science proves that you are most susceptible to getting the flu and spreading it during the first two weeks after you receive the mercury-laced vaccine.

There are two simple and valid explanations for this. One: The CDC guesses at which strains of the flu are “coming around” while combining two or three and genetically modifying them in laboratories. This means those strains don’t even match up with the wild strains anymore, and since your immune system is compromised by the toxic, carcinogenic adjuvants, additives, and preservatives (think thimerosal) in the jab, your chances of contracting the virus INCREASE rather than decrease.

Two: When the influenza vaccine is injected into your muscle tissue, you’re getting a “weakened” version of the virus strains because they’re forced to hibernate in formaldehyde (embalming fluid). This means that even if you don’t contract the flu yourself, you’re able to spread it to those around you by a process called shedding. This is when the vaccine industry blames the unvaccinated for spreading the flu, even though it’s actually the vaccinated who are the culprits. Tricky stuff, but it’s scientifically proven.

[BADecker]

Click the image and watch the video.


Dr. James Lyons-Weiler @ UCLA Presentation on Pediatric Dosing of Aluminum in Vaccines

[BADecker]

I think vaccination is very important and it works

Except that top medical people in the World Health Organization say different.


The World Health Organization's Vaccine Experts Inadvertently Communicate to the World...

Be certain to watch this important video before WHO deletes it:

A very comprehensive article on this issue read here.

In this expose, the WHO vaccine experts admit that:

Vaccines can be fatal.

The design of safety studies makes it difficult to spot problems.

Safety monitoring is inadequate.

Vaccine adjuvants increase risk.

"The FDA receives 45% of its annual budget from the pharmaceutical industry.

The World Health Organization (WHO) gets roughly half its budget from private sources, including Pharma and its allied foundations.

And the CDC, frankly, is a vaccine company; it owns 56 vaccine patents and buys and distributes $4.6 billion in vaccines annually through the Vaccines for Children program, which is over 40% of its total budget." — Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

CAUGHT ON CAMERA: W.H.O Scientists Question Safety Of Vaccines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IujhTdCLE

[n0ne]

Its really a nice debate that who is healthier either vaccinated or unvaccinated . On review vaccination is given only to prevent the for coming diseases but cent percent it is not assured that vaccination results in complete eradication. Unvaccinated has higher risk of attack of diseases.
Some vaccines like DPT is common now to avoid the contamination from one to another. TT is another very common used. Vaccines may be live attenuated or killed.
Pregnant women must take vaccines to prevent risk of miscarriage. For children polio is given which is universally accepted.

[tvbcof]

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CAUGHT ON CAMERA: W.H.O Scientists Question Safety Of Vaccines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IujhTdCLE

Wow, I watched that an hour before your post.  Here's my favorite comment:

We have a very wobbly health professional front line that is starting to question vaccines
and the safety of vaccines. When the front line professionals are starting to question or
they don’t feel like they have enough confidence about the safety to stand up to it to the
person asking them the questions.  I mean most medical school curriculums, even nursing
curriculums, I mean in medical school you’re lucky if you have a half-day on vaccines.
Never mind keeping up to date with all this.

The fact that doctors are FINALLY starting to question these things is extremely good news to me.  Doctors are already chaffing under a variety of other insults brought about by socialized corp/gov controlled medical system.  They are nearly universally bright people and sometimes good people as well.  Lots of them will (and do) keep their traps shut and quietly avoid doing their own kids, but there will surely be more and more pressure as they are forced to inject the innocent with stuff they don't have confidence in.  Especially since more and more of the victims are themselves wising up and pitching a bitch.

I looks to me very much as though it's going to be a bumpy road ahead for the vaccine programs.  The harder they push, the stronger the resistance and the more intense will be the backlash when it comes.

[BADecker]

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CAUGHT ON CAMERA: W.H.O Scientists Question Safety Of Vaccines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IujhTdCLE

Wow, I watched that an hour before your post.  Here's my favorite comment:

We have a very wobbly health professional front line that is starting to question vaccines
and the safety of vaccines. When the front line professionals are starting to question or
they don’t feel like they have enough confidence about the safety to stand up to it to the
person asking them the questions.  I mean most medical school curriculums, even nursing
curriculums, I mean in medical school you’re lucky if you have a half-day on vaccines.
Never mind keeping up to date with all this.

The fact that doctors are FINALLY starting to question these things is extremely good news to me.  Doctors are already chaffing under a variety of other insults brought about by socialized corp/gov controlled medical system.  They are nearly universally bright people and sometimes good people as well.  Lots of them will (and do) keep their traps shut and quietly avoid doing their own kids, but there will surely be more and more pressure as they are forced to inject the innocent with stuff they don't have confidence in.  Especially since more and more of the victims are themselves wising up and pitching a bitch.

I looks to me very much as though it's going to be a bumpy road ahead for the vaccine programs.  The harder they push, the stronger the resistance and the more intense will be the backlash when it comes.

Everything we do regarding our relationships with other people in life, has to do with trust. In fundamental law, trust and trusts are the most important things. The breaking of a trust is one of the greatest damning positions one can find himself in... if caught and exposed.

Doctors trust those who teach them. Why? Because they can't do all the experiments to factually prove for themselves that the things they have learned are the truth.

People trust their doctors because they can't do more than a few of the experiments that show that the doctors know what they are talking about. But, people are figuring out by timing and coincidence that vaccines are not what the medical promotes them to be.

It isn't only the money that Big Pharma is after. It is the saving of their own lives when the people find out what Big Pharma is doing to them... a breach of trust.

Same said for climate-change propagandists, and any other promotion that is patently false.

[tvbcof]

I live in a country where the local government lacks the funding and organization to give names to streets or to assign houses a street address.  (When they do give street names it is common for many streets to get the same name which indicates to me that the rationale behind giving a street a name didn't really sink in.  But that's not relevant to this discussion.)

Said country is one of those named in Kissinger's NSSM200 where achieving a desirable head count in the country is of "paramount importance" to U.S. national security.

Just today there was something so important that three local officials showed up at our doorstep.  First time anyone from the government has done so (thankfully.)  This critically important mission?  Take notes on a minor they knew was on premise and give said minor 'vitamin shots'.  (I actually don't know for sure that they wanted to do injections to get the baby the 'vitamins' rather than drops.  We didn't get that far.  But I know that 'health workers' do make the rounds to rural public schools with 'vitamin shot' needles in hand.)

A thinking person has to wonder where the funding for this 'vitamin shots' operation came from and who, exactly, is setting the priorities.  I mean this is an area where sewage flows in open ditches to the ocean and lots of kids live in houses built on bamboo stilts over the area were the ditched sewage hits sea-level.  Seems like there would be more low-hanging fruit in terms of spending money to foster better public health.  In fairness, I will say that garbage service is free and fairly reliable.  That is obviously a giant contribution to public health.  Probably the single most important thing a government can do.

[BADecker]

^^^ How do people get trained in basic, simple, effective hygiene? If the medical steps in to train them, they get all kinds of false vaccine training at the same time. Government people don't know any better. They believe the medical just like the doctors believe their superiors.

A money grab wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't hurting and killing a bunch of simple people. One-world government might quell wars in ways, but it is only being done so that the leaders can "farm" the populace like a farmer milks his cows.

Is there a way that we or anybody can separate the good of government from the bad?


Amid gang peril, a Mexican village arms its children

He was 13, a B student with a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles bicycle who got nervous around the girls in his middle school.

Then, in November, as violence surged in the mountains of Guerrero state, the men of Ayahualtempa decided it was time for their sons to take up arms.

Alex was handed a hunting rifle and told to show up for daily training on the village basketball court. He and his young comrades, some as young as 6, marched and crawled with loaded guns almost as tall as they were. Their uniforms said "Community Police" in yellow letters.

[Naida_BR]

I wonder all those people who are against vaccines, would they stay unvaccinated now that Coronavirus is rampant?
I used to be against vaccines but after this pandemia was brought at light I started thinking about it the opposite way.

[bugsbuds]

I never been vaccinated only in school, and now over years i never had any flu or been sicker, i really think vaccins are not good at all. What vaccin you know Naida is good for coronavirus, there is no vaccin for it.

[Ahmed-SH]

as far as I know that viruses get progressed by the time so we also have to progress the vaccination to be suitable to the viruses state and more effective

[Balthazar]

as far as I know that viruses get progressed by the time so we also have to progress the vaccination to be suitable to the viruses state and more effective

There are viruses, like VZV (chickenpox), Enterovirus C (polio) or the measles virus, which have very low replication error rate and therefore their genetical complex is considered stable. As the result, one vaccination by alive attenuated vaccine is able to provide lifetime protection.

Some viruses, like type A of flu virus, are mutating quickly enough to make vaccination inefficient in the long term. It only will be effective for short periods, and only if the researches will make a right guess about future epidemic strain.

Others, like HIV, are displaying so high replication errors rate that even short-time effectiveness of vaccination is literally unreachable. You may develop a vaccine but it won't be able to protect anyone, because the blood stream of infected individual contains ~10^10 variations of virus which are unlikely to match a strain used in the vaccine. This is why the so-called HIV vaccine researches are nothing but fraud. These guys are spending money to develop vaccine which won't work by definition. Killed HIV vaccines won't work because they wouldn't match actual strains of the virus. Alive attenuated HIV vaccines won't work because the vaccine strain will mutate until it will become strong enough to cause the desease.

P.S. You can see a funny analogy between HIV, its animal equivalents (FIV, SIV, dozen of others) and polymorphic computer programs. HIV/SIV/FIV mutation rate is so high that it functions on the verge of self-destruction. Therefore, this family of viruses is clearly the best sample of precious engineeging work which nature may provide. Some people would consider it as a living proof of the God existence.

[tvbcof]

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P.S. You can see a funny analogy between HIV, its animal equivalents (FIV, SIV, dozen of others) and polymorphic computer programs. HIV/SIV/FIV mutation rate is so high that it functions on the verge of self-destruction. Therefore, this family of viruses is clearly the best sample of precious engineeging work which nature may provide. Some people would consider it as a living proof of the God existence.

Some people would consider it as a living proof of the Bioweapons Engineer existence.

[BADecker]

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P.S. You can see a funny analogy between HIV, its animal equivalents (FIV, SIV, dozen of others) and polymorphic computer programs. HIV/SIV/FIV mutation rate is so high that it functions on the verge of self-destruction. Therefore, this family of viruses is clearly the best sample of precious engineeging work which nature may provide. Some people would consider it as a living proof of the God existence.

Some people would consider it as a living proof of the Bioweapons Engineer existence.

Adam and Eve were made perfectly, in a perfect world. This world included natural bacterias and viruses that balanced each other to keep peoples' bodies in perfect operation. That's why the first people lived over 900 years in some cases, even though destructive sin had entered the world. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4465916/.

If people had never sinned, there would be no bioweapons. Even if such were engineered, they would have not worked against the natural protections of people in a perfect world.

The thing that caused the gradual decline and devolution of people is adverse genetic engineering that was started thousands of years ago. It was done in such a way that it would increase, naturally, parents to children, over the years that followed. Less than 100 years of life for people is today's result.