BTC-e hacked ??

[bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc]

GIVE BACK 100% OF ME COINS, I DO NOT NEED YOUR SHITTY TOKENS. I AM A FAIR USER, NOT A FOOKING CRIMINAL, I AM NOT GON PAY FOR SOME FOOKING CRIMINAL LOSSESS! FOOK UR SOCIALISED LOSSES PLAN, I AM ANTI-SOCIAL, I CARE ONLY ABOUT ME COINS. GIVE DEM BACK RIGHT NOW U FOOKING COW TIT SOOKING HORES!!!!!!!1!!

[lapcevics]

What's the purpose of acting like a 12 year old, they will not read that 

As I understand, they have (or had) more then one million users? If they verify 1000 per day (which is impossible) it will take almost 3 years 

[BTC_Roe]

maybe they can use other exchanges if it would take such a long time. A lot of countries accept this also between banks. So if you are verified within e.g. bitstamp or Polo (offcourse you need to be at verified level) and you send 0.00x coin to the new BTC-e then in a way you are verified and verifiable by law if they would have a case to check. In that case you would also stay anonymous for the new BTC-e.

Or maybe we should invent/use an ident blockchain for that. Sending out ID photos seem somewhat outdated in these days.

[A.Zimmerer]

It doesn't matter what they were doing in May 2017. The money laundering charges stem from 2012, and the unlicensed MSB charge likely stems from inception of the exchange.



I believe they are trying to salvage funds by deterring some people from making a claim on their funds. I can't think of any other rational explanation. The new exchange refunding balances tied to BTC-E (along with the token scheme) will clearly tie them to the original exchange. Mandatory KYC at this point (especially with no fiat processing) doesn't further their compliance efforts; they are already tainted. It's just to scare people away from asking for refunds.

They clearly stated "ALL users need to verify" and @illinest is right.
There is no fiat processing involved.
You will get coins + token and you don't need to verify
for them in other exchanges who are following AML laws
like Kraken, Bittrex, GDAX, etc. There is no reason at this
point to send over high resolution scans of my personal documents
to criminals. This is a big security risk for all customers.

So to speak, the child has already fallen down the well.
At this point KYC/AML laws are BTC-E's and all it's
employees smallest problem. They are tainted as money
launders and now will be hunted and prosecuted.

The US law is very clear about this matter, especially if
it comes to business partners, and customers:


Participation in any capacity such as an accomplice, assistant
or instigator in an offence established in accordance with
this Convention.

All participating in the infringement or attempted infringement,
should be declared responsible, according to the particular
country's internal law, as accomplices or instigators.



Meaning if you are doing business with BTC-E or what ever they
call themselves now will be liable to prosecution.
That applies particularly to the new "investor company".
If they strictly follow KYC/AML laws and do business with
BTC-E they break the law and would be a criminal offence.


Conclusion: The whole thing looks fishy.
Bees that have honey in their mouths have stings in their tails.

Don't do it. You have been warned!

[lapcevics]

It's good for us, more of you don't verify, process will go faster 

I don't care for fbi, I'm in Serbia  (NOT Siberia in Russia, but Serbia - central Europe. I always get same answer when traveling - oh Siberia, it is cold there  )

[Lionel]

@A.Zimmerer
Don't do it = Don't get your coins

As far as i understood they require you to send your docs before you can withdraw. FIAT or coins doesn't matter

If you have only coins you can try sending a fake ID i guess, but how can you get a fake ID??

[aaron25177]

Will all the users that were already verified via xbtce have to re-verify?  If they have the database, they should know who was verified already?  Seems like xbtce has started the purge, I got email today to provide NON-US residency proof or provide details to remove funds.  When I logged in to check, i am no longer verified.

[A.Zimmerer]

@A.Zimmerer
Don't do it = Don't get your coins

As far as i understood they require you to send your docs before you can withdraw. FIAT or coins doesn't matter

If you have only coins you can try sending a fake ID i guess, but how can you get a fake ID??

Nope, we should convince BTC-E to do the right thing.
Hand over our coins and token without verification!

Sending fakeID is no solution Lionel. So I will have to become criminal
to get my coins + tokens from criminal ? Nonsens...

[A.Zimmerer]

Will all the users that were already verified via xbtce have to re-verify?  If they have the database, they should know who was verified already?  Seems like xbtce has started the purge, I got email today to provide NON-US residency proof or provide details to remove funds.  When I logged in to check, i am no longer verified.

Yes, you will have to re-verify! 100% sure

[A.Zimmerer]

My advice to

BTC-E and their employees.

Give your customers coins + token now.
Then call FBI and US Attorney General.
Turn yourself in and make deal!

THEN if everything is fine again follow
KYC/AML laws and request high resolution
scan from your customers.


Everything else is are big security risk for your customers!
Don't force them to send fakeID and become criminals themselves.

[aaron25177]

So they cant use xbtce for verification of US users.   I guess there will be a new verification method?   Any chance their "verification" is just simply to validate active accounts?  If the account doesnt get verified after a period of time, they re-claim/re-distribute any funds to cover losses?

[mayax]

there will be NO refund. there are only empty words (a bone to dog from time to time).  get used with that.

[Lionel]

@A.Zimmerer
Don't do it = Don't get your coins

As far as i understood they require you to send your docs before you can withdraw. FIAT or coins doesn't matter

If you have only coins you can try sending a fake ID i guess, but how can you get a fake ID??

Nope, we should convince BTC-E to do the right thing.
Hand over our coins and token without verification!

Sending fakeID is no solution Lionel. So I will have to become criminal
to get my coins + tokens from criminal ? Nonsens...

If they know it's a fake ID, it means they already knew who you are.
Verification would not make sense then.

If you give a fake ID there is no way they can tell it's fake.

The problem is:  how can we get a fakeID ??

[thedreamer]

IF there is a partial refund, (which I doubt now) it should require verification in the way of account, password, API key, secret, or whitelisted IP address.

Anything extra is utter sheyt and BS. IF they open up for trading, they COULD ask for it, but just to refund people a fracking 55% or less? It sounds fishy to me either way.
 

[mayax]

IF there is a partial refund, (which I doubt now) it should require verification in the way of account, password, API key, secret, or whitelisted IP address.

Anything extra is utter sheyt and BS. IF they open up for trading, they COULD ask for it, but just to refund people a fracking 55% or less? It sounds fishy to me either way.
 

there will NO refund. What licensed company will risk to take over a shit exchanger like BTC-e?

That company will have to report the transaction to the financial authority where they are registered and this one will never allow a such thing. Even, BTC-e will create a such company, it takes many months (at least 7-8) to get a license in any country.


BTC-e is considered a money laundering company. only those who have clue about laws, can think that BTC-e will come back.

It's a non-sense

[teraf]

BTC-e is considered a money laundering company. only those who have clue about laws, can think that BTC-e will come back.

Is considered by whom exactly?  By some organisation that intends to take other people's money?

[mayax]

BTC-e is considered a money laundering company. only those who have clue about laws, can think that BTC-e will come back.

Is considered by whom exactly?  By some organisation that intends to take other people's money?

by those you closed them and this is all it matters.

I understand your point but we live in a society where BTC-e actions are considered as money laundering and operating without a financial license. those who are trading must do their due diligence before using an exchanger.  the first thing they have to check is if that company is regulated.

I recommend you to do the same with Kraken, Poloniex, Bitfinex and others...

[Darooghe]

They need your ID card's scan for keeping money laundering under another Brand.
Don't trust this shit.
Fuck BTC-e off.

I wish FBI will find them and giving them to victims.
We exactly know how to revive our money.
Otherwise i definitely will pay Mafia for cutting their throat.

[teraf]

So my guess is that YandexMoney (NASDAQ stock symbol $YNDX),  $QIWI,  Cloudflare and many other well known companies who worked with BTC-E are also "accomplices" and their respective CEOs will be hunted down and detained by the US government.

Cool story, bro.

[thedreamer]

They need your ID card's scan for keeping money laundering under another Brand.

Otherwise i definitely will pay Mafia for cutting their throat.

If they end up running with the funds, this will be a reality to them by a LOT of donators who got burned with $$$$$$+ losses.