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December 06, 2017, 12:30:10 PM
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Pretty simple, they just started to dump the premined coins at a low rate. It is multiple orders in the high 3 and 4 digits now, these are certainly not normal members selling their coins 2 days before the "airdrop". The increased volume speaks also for this.

It's a predictable game, price stagnates, reduce the dump. price goes up, increase the dump. Just don't do it all at once or it will collapse.
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December 06, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
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Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

Strong basic math there, but I don't see what your actual point is? Surely if this 'dump' had begun the price would be on the decline rather than increasing? Surely and influx in sell orders, then basic economics would say supply outweighs demands and the price falls?

You mention 'artificially driven higher', but don't mention how.

I'm not having a go at you, I just want to understand your point of view and why you are saying these things.

As someone that's part of the community, I can assure you that the dev team and those around them have been nothing but approachable, transparent and helpful. It's genuinely a great, active, community with really really dedicated people.

How can you possibly call a team “transparent”, when you don’t even know who they are?
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December 06, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
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Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

Strong basic math there, but I don't see what your actual point is? Surely if this 'dump' had begun the price would be on the decline rather than increasing? Surely and influx in sell orders, then basic economics would say supply outweighs demands and the price falls?

You mention 'artificially driven higher', but don't mention how.

I'm not having a go at you, I just want to understand your point of view and why you are saying these things.

As someone that's part of the community, I can assure you that the dev team and those around them have been nothing but approachable, transparent and helpful. It's genuinely a great, active, community with really really dedicated people.
Low volume makes wash trading insanely easy. Especially if you control far more than 50% of the supply, which the dev team does (without taking the airdrop bags into account).

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December 06, 2017, 01:36:11 PM
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Pretty simple, they just started to dump the premined coins at a low rate. It is multiple orders in the high 3 and 4 digits now, these are certainly not normal members selling their coins 2 days before the "airdrop". The increased volume speaks also for this.

It's a predictable game, price stagnates, reduce the dump. price goes up, increase the dump. Just don't do it all at once or it will collapse.

Well some people may sell because it's at a high.

I'm no expert here, so feel free to educate/argue against, but dumping premined coins at a low rate only really works when their are orders to buy, doesn't it? Whether low price or not, if orders aren't met and there are significantly more sell orders than buy, then a coin falls in value.

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December 06, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
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Do yourself a favor and analyse the trading patterns at Cryptopia. It's self explaining.
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December 06, 2017, 01:47:33 PM
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I'm still on the fence about this. I bought deeponion during the initial rush and then it tanked hard and stayed that way for a long time. Almost sold it 2 weeks ago at €0.52/onion which would mean losing over half of my investment. Suddenly the price has spiked by nearly 500%. Not a healthy growth for sure. Then again, Dash almost rose by 300% and people initially said that was a shitcoin. That shitcoin has yielded a 3000% increase over the past 3 years or so.

Will hodl a bit longer, perhaps sell. The whole crypto market is going crazy right now and none of it feels healthy tbh
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December 06, 2017, 02:45:51 PM
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Do yourself a favor and analyse the trading patterns at Cryptopia. It's self explaining.
It's funny that you are not able to explain any of your "proofs". Everything is "self explaining" and "has been written before somewhere".
But of course you can't provide a link or explain, seems legit. The only thing you have prooven so far is that you are a lier.

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December 06, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
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Check the free airdrop coin price and then shout again for scam scam. Grin

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December 06, 2017, 03:20:09 PM
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Do yourself a favor and analyse the trading patterns at Cryptopia. It's self explaining.
It's funny that you are not able to explain any of your "proofs". Everything is "self explaining" and "has been written before somewhere".
But of course you can't provide a link or explain, seems legit. The only thing you have prooven so far is that you are a lier.

Posting #1333. You don't need to prove every day again that you can not read. Welcome on my Ignore list, no.2!
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December 06, 2017, 03:25:10 PM
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Check the free airdrop coin price and then shout again for scam scam. Grin
It's not free and it never was. Even with the old rules you had to participate in the signature campaign to get anything. And with the new rules you have to buy very expensive onions to get an interest back. The devs know this and they changed the rules in such a way that >>>>>>>>50% of the onions will stay with the founding team.

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December 06, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
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And with the new rules you have to buy very expensive onions to get an interest back.
Right now we are at 500 new members each week x 100 Onions x 3.80$ = 190,000US$ each week they cash in with upwards trend.

This is really something I'd like to see the tax authorities becoming active.
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December 06, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
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Do yourself a favor and analyse the trading patterns at Cryptopia. It's self explaining.
It's funny that you are not able to explain any of your "proofs". Everything is "self explaining" and "has been written before somewhere".
But of course you can't provide a link or explain, seems legit. The only thing you have prooven so far is that you are a lier.

Posting #1333. You don't need to prove every day again that you can not read. Welcome on my Ignore list, no.2!
This is excatly what I mean. Don't take advises from such people who are spreading lies and can't do anything but ignoring if someone confronts them with their lies. Read about the project and decide for yourselfs, but don't listen to the prooven liers in this thread.


Check the free airdrop coin price and then shout again for scam scam. Grin
It's not free and it never was. Even with the old rules you had to participate in the signature campaign to get anything. And with the new rules you have to buy very expensive onions to get an interest back. The devs know this and they changed the rules in such a way that >>>>>>>>50% of the onions will stay with the founding team.
Wrong. You can accumulate 100 Onions via the  secong Airdrop in the official Forum and then join the first Airdrop. Pletny of people did it this way.
Maybe should first read about a project before you talk about it.

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December 06, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
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Do yourself a favor and analyse the trading patterns at Cryptopia. It's self explaining.
It's funny that you are not able to explain any of your "proofs". Everything is "self explaining" and "has been written before somewhere".
But of course you can't provide a link or explain, seems legit. The only thing you have prooven so far is that you are a lier.

Posting #1333. You don't need to prove every day again that you can not read. Welcome on my Ignore list, no.2!
This is excatly what I mean. Don't take advises from such people who are spreading lies and can't do anything but ignoring if someone confronts them with their lies. Read about the project and decide for yourselfs, but don't listen to the prooven liers in this thread.


Check the free airdrop coin price and then shout again for scam scam. Grin
It's not free and it never was. Even with the old rules you had to participate in the signature campaign to get anything. And with the new rules you have to buy very expensive onions to get an interest back. The devs know this and they changed the rules in such a way that >>>>>>>>50% of the onions will stay with the founding team.
Wrong. You can accumulate 100 Onions via the  secong Airdrop in the official Forum and then join the first Airdrop. Pletny of people did it this way.
Maybe should first read about a project before you talk about it.
Sure, but 100 Onions are only going to give you 5-7 Onions per week for a signature campaign, which is not even $30 at current prices and thus still laughable compared to signature campaigns which pay you regardless of whether or not you own any coins.

And as a result, anyone with a brain would not participate in the DO signature campaign, which will result in disproportionally more Onions going to the founding members.

Hence, the vast majority of Onions will go to the founding team, which is no different than a dev team holding >50% of a coins' total supply as a premine. There's just some extra steps to fool gullible and greedy people.

Old rules = benefit of the doubt. New rules = ponzi. Simple as that.

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December 06, 2017, 03:55:09 PM
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With the lack of development, shaddy practices by the people behind the coin and an army of paid shills, these are all the red flags you need to not put any money into this.

You can do the signature campaign, but be careful with your money.

https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=321080

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December 06, 2017, 03:56:41 PM
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With the lack of development, shaddy practices by the people behind the coin and an army of paid shills, these are all the red flags you need to not put any money into this.

You can do the signature campaign, but be careful with your money.

https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=321080
I wouldn't even join the signature campaign right now considering the fact that the wallet is not open source. Even if the old rules were still in place. Way too dangerous.

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December 06, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
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Hence, the vast majority of Onions will go to the founding team, which is no different than a dev team holding >50% of a coins' total supply as a premine. There's just some extra steps to fool gullible and greedy people.
Don't forget, they hold 18 millions of already premined coins out of a total supply of 19 million.
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December 06, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
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Hence, the vast majority of Onions will go to the founding team, which is no different than a dev team holding >50% of a coins' total supply as a premine. There's just some extra steps to fool gullible and greedy people.
Don't forget, they hold 18 millions of already premined coins out of a total supply of 19 million.
To be fair, they are distributing the premine. It just so happens that the rules they employ will end up distributing more than half of the coins to themselves. Very deceptive.

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December 06, 2017, 04:10:14 PM
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With the lack of development, shaddy practices by the people behind the coin and an army of paid shills, these are all the red flags you need to not put any money into this.

You can do the signature campaign, but be careful with your money.

https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=321080
I wouldn't even join the signature campaign right now considering the fact that the wallet is not open source. Even if the old rules were still in place. Way too dangerous.

You can still use the open source wallets if you don't need DeepVault.

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December 06, 2017, 04:12:03 PM
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You can still use the open source wallets if you don't need DeepVault.
You miss the point. It is not open source and pretending so is an outright lie.
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December 06, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
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You can still use the open source wallets if you don't need DeepVault.
You miss the point. It is not open source and pretending so is an outright lie.

The open source wallet version is open source open source wallet.

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