Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread.

[Smontiel]

hey dan, im about to build my array, which brand and wattage would you recomend for the panels and microinverters?, i consume about 2500kWh each 2 months.

I dont plan to reduce my bill to $0, but i want to try first with at least 4 panels..

I went with Ubiquiti sunMAX.  I have a lot of their network gear and have been very pleased with it, so I figured I'd give the sunMAX solar products a shot.

260W panels are $203:

http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/sunMAX/Ubiquiti-sunMAX-Solar-Panel.html

And their 250W inverters are $92:

http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/sunMAX/Ubiquiti-sunMAX-Microinverter.html

So for under $300, you have a 260W setup.  I got 80 panels and micro inverters, so 20.8kW system for $23,600.  To that cost you add mounting hardware (roof or ground mount) and then misc hardware and electrical.  Still, at the end of the day, your cost is about $1.50 per Watt if you do it yourself.

I was a very early customer of theirs, and I did have 20 out of 80 inverters fail within the first 6 month due to them all being from a pre-release batch that should have never been in the wild.  But they shipped 80 new inverters and I have only had to use 20 of them so far.  This is way I'm looking at doing another array since I already have the inverters.  I have had no failures from the replacement inverters.

thank you for your answer dan, seems like it wont be that expensive as i thought afterall, do i need a microinverter for every panel installed? how do you manage/know how much power are you generating? is there an app that links this info to your phone or something like that? im asking this because in the microinverter image i see like a wifi antenna, buying them at $92 seems pretty nice, sadly in mexico they are at $4500 pesos each one which is roughly $260 dollars lol

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[VoskCoin]

2x 1080 TI + 1070 earning the same as 2x 1080 TI 4x 1070

(1.8k sol rig avg)


3k sol rig, avg 2.6k due to error, but its as if all 3 of the 1070s on the second PSU (connected add2psu PSU1 to mobo/cpu/all risers +pata to Add2psu / PSU2 mobo to add2psu+3x 1070 mini


nvOC_19 on both . .


@crazydane On average I get the best daily returns from suprnova/luck/zhash roughly maybe in that order? if my miner finds a block on luck it obviously comes out ahead. I'm using luck because it's easy to look at basic stats individually



Also in other news . . that's actually good news. .  my bitmain antminer d3 has arrived and is hashing away 2 gh/s higher than advertised from 15.5 to 17.5 iirc

[philipma1957]

The d3 looks good. hopefully  you got it early enough to pay off with a profit.

I am consolidating and switching  gear around.

This year is the first year that I truly have reached profits.

Everything is paid off .

I am moving gear into my friends office.

I sold off my last r4 from bitmain

I am prepping for the solar array expansion.

I don't know if I need gear or if buy solar will want to lease power.

I have been  making some 2 card rigs for simple mining They work well in my friends office I pulled the r4 out which was 1000 watts

So 3x  two card 1080ti's  is about 1000 watts if tdp is set to 145 watts.

here are 2 rigs setup stats.

[Marvell2]

so lucky with that first batch D3 grats , I have 5 cominng in nov and ordered 6 l3+ last week
asic mining is where im focusing on more in 2018 until volta comes out , Ill buy

a few more rigs when asics are out of stock but i think asics are thr better investment 2018 with possible eth pos

[crazydane]

thank you for your answer dan, seems like it wont be that expensive as i thought afterall, do i need a microinverter for every panel installed? how do you manage/know how much power are you generating? is there an app that links this info to your phone or something like that? im asking this because in the microinverter image i see like a wifi antenna, buying them at $92 seems pretty nice, sadly in mexico they are at $4500 pesos each one which is roughly $260 dollars lol

So with Micro Inverters, you have one on each panel.  You then string the inverters together, up to 15 max, and then connect them to a 240V 20A breaker and you're done.  These are grid tie inverters, so they won't even turn on until they see a solid 240V @ 60Hz coming from the grid.  Also, when the grid goes down, they immediately shut down.   This a mandatory safety feature so that linemen working on the lines won't get zapped from a gried tied system putting power out across a downed grid.

To monitor the production of the individual panels, you'll want this guy:

http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/sunMAX/Ubiquiti-sunMAX-Solar-Gateway.html

It snaps onto the side of the solar panel array and has an Ethernet port and can handle about 60 panels.  It communicated with the micro inverters using low power Blutooth.  That's what those antenna's you see are for.  The Solar Gateway has a build in webserver that you can point a browser to and see solar production data for each panel, as well as the overall production from all panels in the array.

[crazydane]

@crazydane On average I get the best daily returns from suprnova/luck/zhash roughly maybe in that order? if my miner finds a block on luck it obviously comes out ahead. I'm using luck because it's easy to look at basic stats individually

Thanks.  Now that I have been awarded the early adopter rewards on zhash and the bonus virtual miner stuff is done, I'll check out suprnova and luck.

I see you have a Ntelos phone.  I work there, well sort of, we split the company a few years back and I went on the wireline side, now Lumos Networks.

[citronick]

I mine Zen on zhash.pro and my pattern looks like this:


The averages shown are pretty much spot on with what EWBF is telling me.  I run 13x 1080Ti with moderate overclocks on both Core and RAM.  Also got a pair of 1070s similarly clocked.  I have only been mining on this pool since the 14th.

and @ citronick

my rigs on zec
https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1WRoxHVh8vhDJxAr6vpP4zzj3xHGF9ZbgQ
2x 1080 ti & 1070 mini on the same luckpool  diff address / diff rig
https://luckpool.org/workers/znWcPtNkPCj6VfLRfMhf6i44DvHoeEfNbcd
same style rig at minez zone
https://minez.zone/workers/zngoZCdezZLWvkZkTPg42rePGG46JLs63H5

can you do a trace ping  -- yeah I noticed yours touches zero which is odd -- do you have a high ms hash submission? too many stale?

[QuintLeo]

@philipma1957  thats an excellent picture and yes its pitched like that but less of a slant around 50% less slant

I cant risk any gap under the garage door because of the sound of the miners fans and all, Its alreay loud as hell outside with only 10 or so rigs and my goal is for
a bunch of Asics and some more rigs so the less sound the better since this area is residential and metal thieves everywhere here

 Standard gable-type fans just under the roof should work - and less worries about leakage.

wont you have to still open holes in the roof? I still need a roofer and an electrician to install the fans , I wonder how much it costs to install 8 fans lol and two with curbs

 Gable fans are designed to mount in a wall - they'd go right UNDER the eves, no need to go through the roof at all.

 Still have to get them wired though - but they're typically 110 and not many amps per (might be 2 or 3 I think for some of the HIGH flow ones?).

 They're sometimes called "attic fans".

[VoskCoin]

Got my video up on my first 2 hours with my antminer D3 if anyone's interested
https://youtu.be/mqVttN1ChPs

[philipma1957]

Got my video up on my first 2 hours with my antminer D3 if anyone's interested
https://youtu.be/mqVttN1ChPs

Nice video

your dog's name is cool.

[dragonmike]

I have taken off the ETH farm off from ZEN to Nicehash since its paying higher and get BTC in return.

Which Nicehash miner are you using out of interest?
The legacy one?
I've been mining Zen lately too but it's not paying much. Might cross to the dark side and look at Nicehash too...

[Smontiel]

thank you for your answer dan, seems like it wont be that expensive as i thought afterall, do i need a microinverter for every panel installed? how do you manage/know how much power are you generating? is there an app that links this info to your phone or something like that? im asking this because in the microinverter image i see like a wifi antenna, buying them at $92 seems pretty nice, sadly in mexico they are at $4500 pesos each one which is roughly $260 dollars lol

So with Micro Inverters, you have one on each panel.  You then string the inverters together, up to 15 max, and then connect them to a 240V 20A breaker and you're done.  These are grid tie inverters, so they won't even turn on until they see a solid 240V @ 60Hz coming from the grid.  Also, when the grid goes down, they immediately shut down.   This a mandatory safety feature so that linemen working on the lines won't get zapped from a gried tied system putting power out across a downed grid.

To monitor the production of the individual panels, you'll want this guy:

http://www.doubleradius.com/Manufacturers/sunMAX/Ubiquiti-sunMAX-Solar-Gateway.html

It snaps onto the side of the solar panel array and has an Ethernet port and can handle about 60 panels.  It communicated with the micro inverters using low power Blutooth.  That's what those antenna's you see are for.  The Solar Gateway has a build in webserver that you can point a browser to and see solar production data for each panel, as well as the overall production from all panels in the array.

thank you dan, now i do understand everything; will research for better prices, $260 dollars for a $92 microinverter is way too much.

[VoskCoin]

I mine Zen on zhash.pro and my pattern looks like this:


The averages shown are pretty much spot on with what EWBF is telling me.  I run 13x 1080Ti with moderate overclocks on both Core and RAM.  Also got a pair of 1070s similarly clocked.  I have only been mining on this pool since the 14th.

and @ citronick

my rigs on zec
https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1WRoxHVh8vhDJxAr6vpP4zzj3xHGF9ZbgQ
2x 1080 ti & 1070 mini on the same luckpool  diff address / diff rig
https://luckpool.org/workers/znWcPtNkPCj6VfLRfMhf6i44DvHoeEfNbcd
same style rig at minez zone
https://minez.zone/workers/zngoZCdezZLWvkZkTPg42rePGG46JLs63H5

can you do a trace ping  -- yeah I noticed yours touches zero which is odd -- do you have a high ms hash submission? too many stale?

Could you explain exactly what that is and how to do it? I don't believe so, everything reads out pretty accurate which is what I don't understand. .

[VoskCoin]

Got my video up on my first 2 hours with my antminer D3 if anyone's interested
https://youtu.be/mqVttN1ChPs

Nice video

your dog's name is cool.

Thanks Phil! You've been vital in my mining endeavor so without you that video probably would've never come about O_O

[philipma1957]

I mine Zen on zhash.pro and my pattern looks like this:


The averages shown are pretty much spot on with what EWBF is telling me.  I run 13x 1080Ti with moderate overclocks on both Core and RAM.  Also got a pair of 1070s similarly clocked.  I have only been mining on this pool since the 14th.

and @ citronick

my rigs on zec
https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1WRoxHVh8vhDJxAr6vpP4zzj3xHGF9ZbgQ
2x 1080 ti & 1070 mini on the same luckpool  diff address / diff rig
https://luckpool.org/workers/znWcPtNkPCj6VfLRfMhf6i44DvHoeEfNbcd
same style rig at minez zone
https://minez.zone/workers/zngoZCdezZLWvkZkTPg42rePGG46JLs63H5

can you do a trace ping  -- yeah I noticed yours touches zero which is odd -- do you have a high ms hash submission? too many stale?

Could you explain exactly what that is and how to do it? I don't believe so, everything reads out pretty accurate which is what I don't understand. .

  ping the pool

bing search
how to ping a website


Second Summary.
Open Command Prompt or Terminal.
Enter the Ping command.
Press Enter to see your ping output.
Read the first line to see what the command is doing.
Read the body of the output to see how long it took the address to respond.
Read the summary.

http://www.wikihow.com/Ping-an-IP-Address

[LoneRangir]

I have a Vega64 that I'd like to sell.  PM me if you're interested.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150808

US only, please.

Phil, delete if this is a nuisance.

[TheRider]

Smells really fishy to me. 300W and no aux power connectors on the board? Can't even render the PCB correctly. It's mirrored and then photoshopped some labels on it, which look non-mirrored.

"Invested" billions of whatever currency in it and call it a "GMO"? Come on!

Edit: Those black power converters don't belong on a 300W ASIC board. They are nice and expensive and very efficient, but are not intended for high current/low voltage applications. Proper VRMs are needed for anything >50W.

This is what they look like. Note that the Linear Technology logo is easily recognizable on the "GMO" product. I call it utter BS.

GMO is a legit company. Listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, capital $50 million, revenue $1.3 billion (with a b), total assets $5.8 billion, employees 4400+.

https://finance.google.com/finance?q=TYO%3A9449

Here's the official Investor Relations note: http://ir.gmo.jp/en/pdf/irlibrary/disclose_info20170907_e.pdf

Here's the official press release: https://www.gmo.jp/en/news/article/?id=752

You should do more research before calling BS.

Whether they will achieve what they announced, but the dates they announced, is another questions. But the company and project/initiative are as legit as can be.

I agree that they are real  as to whether they build a good piece of gear    " ?  "   seem to cover it.  I will look for it.

Yes, my bad. BS was unwarranted. We should not judge companies by their name no matter how silly it sounds.

Still, their photoshopped board prop looks really cheesy and those Linear LDO's don't look right.

-scsi

No worries. I think those renderings were made only for the presentation slides.

I heard they have barely started planning the design phase, and I doubt they would share pictures of the real chips when they finish them...

[QuintLeo]

I mine Zen on zhash.pro and my pattern looks like this:


The averages shown are pretty much spot on with what EWBF is telling me.  I run 13x 1080Ti with moderate overclocks on both Core and RAM.  Also got a pair of 1070s similarly clocked.  I have only been mining on this pool since the 14th.

and @ citronick

my rigs on zec
https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1WRoxHVh8vhDJxAr6vpP4zzj3xHGF9ZbgQ
2x 1080 ti & 1070 mini on the same luckpool  diff address / diff rig
https://luckpool.org/workers/znWcPtNkPCj6VfLRfMhf6i44DvHoeEfNbcd
same style rig at minez zone
https://minez.zone/workers/zngoZCdezZLWvkZkTPg42rePGG46JLs63H5

can you do a trace ping  -- yeah I noticed yours touches zero which is odd -- do you have a high ms hash submission? too many stale?

Could you explain exactly what that is and how to do it? I don't believe so, everything reads out pretty accurate which is what I don't understand. .

  ping the pool

bing search
how to ping a website


Second Summary.
Open Command Prompt or Terminal.
Enter the Ping command.
Press Enter to see your ping output.
Read the first line to see what the command is doing.
Read the body of the output to see how long it took the address to respond.
Read the summary.

http://www.wikihow.com/Ping-an-IP-Address

 I think he was actually asking for a traceroute, but not sure.

[QuintLeo]

I have taken off the ETH farm off from ZEN to Nicehash since its paying higher and get BTC in return.

Which Nicehash miner are you using out of interest?
The legacy one?
I've been mining Zen lately too but it's not paying much. Might cross to the dark side and look at Nicehash too...

 If you're going to try Nicehash, Legacy is the way to go.

 Their new 2.0 stuff is not ready for serious usage, too many issues with it so far.

 Keep in mind though that Nicehash only exists for Windows (except for their ZEC-specific miner that is badly outperformed by EWBF and Claymore now).

[dragonmike]

I have taken off the ETH farm off from ZEN to Nicehash since its paying higher and get BTC in return.

Which Nicehash miner are you using out of interest?
The legacy one?
I've been mining Zen lately too but it's not paying much. Might cross to the dark side and look at Nicehash too...

 If you're going to try Nicehash, Legacy is the way to go.

 Their new 2.0 stuff is not ready for serious usage, too many issues with it so far.

 Keep in mind though that Nicehash only exists for Windows (except for their ZEC-specific miner that is badly outperformed by EWBF and Claymore now).

Thanks. Played around with the legacy miner yesterday... but the income predictions from the benchmarking were hardly higher than mining ZEN or ZEC directly. At this stage I think there aren't any arbitrage opportunities around anymore. Market's pretty saturated.