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December 27, 2017, 01:51:31 AM
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I will refrain from name calling and cursing. But, you dudes will be really embarrassed with all your naysaying.

Well, you sir, if such a product exists, should be ashamed of all your attempts to make it look like a scam.....I mean, talk about a lame way to launch a product!

tough to have 'duck like' qualities and not be called a 'duck' Smiley


 
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December 27, 2017, 04:31:09 AM
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I get it. I get it. "Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?"

Anyways... Halong is obviously not the best in the art of product pre-launch marketing and PR. You've definitely got that part right. It's difficult to orchestrate all the moving parts and people involved.

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December 27, 2017, 04:48:49 AM
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I get it. I get it. "Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?"

Anyways... Halong is obviously not the best in the art of product pre-launch marketing and PR. You've definitely got that part right. It's difficult to orchestrate all the moving parts and people involved.


Well, on a side note ..the whole argument on existence is now moot...it is NOT worth getting at the prices I suspect they will ask for this product ..even it if is not a scam

too little, too late .....especially with Bitmain

so, they waited too long and likely will only find profit if such equipment exists mining it themselves....no frigging way does it make sense to market it out to folk like us

at this point IMHO view, even if they only are selling them in lots of 5 or so

so again, we are arguing about a duck that has already been cooked/eaten and discarded....

the boat has sailed on this getting off the ground at a price as a consumer product at this point in my view...even if all my concerns were met today

so even if they announce this week...the whole thing will get a big ho hum......at the prices I'd expect




 
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December 27, 2017, 05:11:46 AM
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Nov to dec 26 no real info on this thread.

21 pages no real info on this item.

I purchased  a s-9  on nov 23 and it has been mining for a week already .

I purchased twenty gpus and built a beast 8 gpu 4000 sol rig along with other rigs.

No real info on this item.

We had 2 diff jumps of 18 percent and coins dropped from 20k to 16k

Which is a 20 percent drop.

So march preorders that arrive in April do not appeal much.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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December 27, 2017, 06:19:45 AM
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Nov to dec 26 no real info on this thread.

21 pages no real info on this item.

I purchased  a s-9  on nov 23 and it has been mining for a week already .

I purchased twenty gpus and built a beast 8 gpu 4000 sol rig along with other rigs.

No real info on this item.

We had 2 diff jumps of 18 percent and coins dropped from 20k to 16k

Which is a 20 percent drop.

So march preorders that arrive in April do not appeal much.


yes, and this is with my previous post IF THEY EXIST..a real benefit of a doubt stretch that is.....by both of us.....

Again, if they do exist..I think ....they stopped selling them and just started mining them as soon as the price went over $100 usd

but, I still think they are vaporware.....won't matter much if I'm wrong ...would not get any equip of any asic flavor at this point in time

better to hold and wait for another price pump in BTC LTC or whatever...2-3 month delay is killer and Bitmain would just lower prices

or keep your shipment if the price pumps like last summer...(it is what they do) ..thus not enthused enough to even care if this equip exists

(damn, I have to get a life and off this thread)


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December 27, 2017, 01:41:21 PM
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I will refrain from name calling and cursing. But, you dudes will be really embarrassed with all your naysaying.

If this was a professional operation it certainly would not attract this amount of contention, and prick teasing is not the way to arouse your future customers.

Even if they're nowhere near ready, there's nothing stopping them coming out with a stream of updates, news and information. This is a potential multi billion dollar business and anyone planning on getting into it should be acting accordingly.

So far it's following the total deadbeat template almost to the letter.

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December 27, 2017, 02:24:47 PM
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There will be a steady stream of news coming soon. It’s ok not to buy right now. Actually, you can’t by right now. But the thing is, the demand is higher than all the suppliers put together can even handle. There will be no problem finding buyers.

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December 27, 2017, 04:11:37 PM
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Nov to dec 26 no real info on this thread.

21 pages no real info on this item.

I purchased  a s-9  on nov 23 and it has been mining for a week already .

I purchased twenty gpus and built a beast 8 gpu 4000 sol rig along with other rigs.

No real info on this item.

We had 2 diff jumps of 18 percent and coins dropped from 20k to 16k

Which is a 20 percent drop.

So march preorders that arrive in April do not appeal much.

short term thinking

Buyng from Halong supports a bitmain competitor. Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control. If miners do not get their greed in check, bitcoin and alts will be destroyed by Bitmains monopoly because the space will cease to be decentralized.

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December 27, 2017, 04:22:58 PM
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short term thinking

Let me paraphrase(not sure is this word that i am looking for) that NO PROOF THINKING
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December 27, 2017, 04:29:49 PM
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Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control.

You do realize just because they operate large pools they dont "control" hashrate right? People can change pools whenever they want.

*hands you a tinfoil hat*

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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December 27, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
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There will be a steady stream of news coming soon. It’s ok not to buy right now. Actually, you can’t by right now. But the thing is, the demand is higher than all the suppliers put together can even handle. There will be no problem finding buyers.


Thanks for taking the time to post on this forum Scott. Whilst I don’t think it justifies Halongs approach to Customer relations, I do take your point that demand far outstrips supply. So if, for a moment, we are to take your claims of this projects legitamacy on face value, can you please tell us what assurance you have that you (and Adam Back etc) aren’t being used by Halong as puppets too, as part of a larger plan.

This is not an accusation, just a question which may allay potential customers concerns.
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December 27, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
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Bitmain not only dominates hardware sales but in my opinion has a 51% attack vector already secured in hash rate they control.

You do realize just because they operate large pools they dont "control" hashrate right? People can change pools whenever they want.

*hands you a tinfoil hat*

the pool runs the code and does in fact control the hash on the pool while it remains on their pool

this is why everyone moved their hash off GHASH a few years back

take back your shitty tinfoil hat

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December 27, 2017, 04:55:32 PM
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...what assurance you have that you (and Adam Back etc) aren’t being used by Halong as puppets too, as part of a larger plan.

The only thing Bitmain would have to do to win back their customers' trust would be to improve their customer service, improve the quality of their manufacturing and keep their prices reasonable... right? This shouldn't be hard for a multi-billion dollar company to do. I assure you, there is no conspiracy occurring here (if that is what you are hinting at). I can tell you, no one is a puppet here.

There is far more at play here than is currently understood. Obviously there has not much of anything revealed at this point, and I respect the honest skepticism that some have expressed. If I were better at public relations, I would never have jumped on here and started making promises.

The only thing I can say right now is... if you really are uncomfortable sending $ to what appears to be scam, then just wait a few weeks.

Now this is a rough estimate, but Bitmain has around 70% of the mining equipment industry market share right now. They also own various mining pools out there (whether obvious or unknown).  A change needs to occur and this Halong project is that change.

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December 27, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
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If in few weeks, everything comes to be clear, all FUD dissapears, price stays the same(1650ish) more-less(because all prices skyrocketed(btc,bitman etc yadda yadda yadda), and most important in the end we see REAL PROOF. and the best thing trusted people from forum do the review!!  I would gladly buy ONE of yours, if you don't stay with logic "ONLY 5" per order
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December 27, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
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Yeah, yet another 'few weeks' but we're still waiting for that video review that's stuck in Post for some reason... Roll Eyes

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December 27, 2017, 05:37:22 PM
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...price stays the same(1650ish) more-less

...and the best thing trusted people from forum do the review


I can tell you this for sure... the price will be lower per TH than others currently on the market. And, reviews will be coming soon (not necessarily by power-users in this forum, but reviews are coming). I did request that a few units get sent to the main complainers of this thread, but it's not possible at this time.

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December 27, 2017, 05:52:40 PM
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I didn't trust this when I saw it but I've changed my mind to wait and see. I did see on Bitminter where D. had Halong's site as a dealer to buy from. I've mined on Bitminter for years. I trust Dr. to have good insight as to what's right. Not that he couldn't be fooled like anyone else.
But he is a trusted member of the community.
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December 27, 2017, 05:56:08 PM
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It shouldn't be main complainers, it should be trusted users, philipma1957, or HagssFIN, or 1 more(i forget his name sorry)
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Yes... main complainers = trusted users Wink

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December 27, 2017, 06:00:34 PM
 #420

It's criticism, not complaining.

If this ends well with a positive note, then I no more have a reason for criticism.

But you must realise we have seen so many scams during history that we are very cautious.

Bring in the proof and we no longer need talks like this.

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