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January 11, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
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I would be but like most everyone here not until there's prof-positive the miner exists.
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January 11, 2018, 06:15:35 PM
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I am not saying by any means that this is a low risk venture.
But you would have control of that level of hash before anyone else gets to the ring with anything similar.
Yeah its not the "Bitmain" but even as s9s are most current they still are going for 5k on eBay (obscene I know).

Plus as far as I can see this is one of the better miners on the market (if it exists). Granted, you dont get the security of BitMain, but its not like they are well known for their customer service.

Some take this gamble, others don't. Some may lose their money, or they may get their miners. Who knows?
The other chips are not on the market yet, or we would have all sorts of shit exploding about how that would be the thing to buy. Granted there are other options, but mining is such a risky venture anyway.

While I understand what @fausto was saying, I think it doesnt exactly apply the same all the time. Especially because I have seen tons and tons of scams in this space - that had "proof" and payouts etc.
Shit I got burned by Josh Garza's Hashlets. Granted that was a different game, but they had the public face, reviews and community - this stopped no one from getting scammed if they played with it at all.

Same with PBMining back in the gap, I mean it paid for quite some time if I remember correctly. Doesn't mean it was a wise investment, or not a scam, but it exited and people swore by it at the time, unless you were right and hated all things cloud mining -- which I was not. I got scammed just like a handful of other people.

I ultimately think the reality of this is "it all comes out in the wash" - only time will tell, fudders will eat hats and if they dont purchasers will eat their pride. That is all...
It's not fair to compare with an ebay crazy prize for an S9. I bought one 2 days ago from bitmain for $2320. So let's do a more fair comparision:

S9 DragonMint
$2320 $2000
March 1-10 April
13.5 TH/s 16 TH/s
1323W 1470W

So why taking the huge risk exactly? We're not talking an order of magnitude game changer here. Bitmain sucks, but I'll get my S9 around the promised date. What is exactly the track record of HalongMining regarding customer service?



Dont forget that you not only get it delivered in time they also provide the hash rate promised. If i think at other producers that fall short dramatically its a plus to buy from bitmain Cheesy

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January 11, 2018, 06:36:04 PM
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That screenshot is highly suspicious, it's not *like* the A5 interface, it *is* the A5 interface.  Undecided

A huge *Thank You* to everyone who recognized that Halong stole the miner interface.

Despite shill claims to the contrary, NOTHING is proven until there is an independent third party review.

Please tell me something different if you know it, but isnt the interface anyways a free license which is telling that improvements to this software are free but has to be published to everyone (or something like this).

So how it could be stealing? They use it like its intend to be. Second time I read this - so maybe better to correct it right now or the scam screamers will start repeating it ->  https://ibb.co/jnqB46
Even the S9 firmware is a Github project with some more forks. So what?!
What you think Bitmain is running as firmware? Or mining software? Something 100% OWN developed? (Answer: NO!!!)

And you can try as long as you want to find anything. Getting more and more terrible the try to proof its scam.
But the proofs that its not scam by innocent bystanders was given - if you cannot accept it. Well --- wait for another --- and another --- and another proof you dont believe in.
Or just wait until end of this month ... new news will come up soon like Halong promised me in a personal contact.

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January 11, 2018, 06:45:12 PM
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Methinks she (QQ) doth protest too much!  More blah blah blah, typical shill.  Ignore time, serenity now!

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January 11, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
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Here’s a quick way to end this back and forth between the shills and us skeptics. If any of you in this thread have 100% certainty that Dragonmint will deliver. Feel free to donate the btc to me. I will place the order. If they deliver I will pay you back your btc dollar for dollar.

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January 11, 2018, 07:10:26 PM
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Methinks she (QQ) doth protest too much!  More blah blah blah, typical shill.  Ignore time, serenity now!


Well, no need to talk to a scammer and liar like you. So stop posting your lies and I will stop answering.
But for every new user or google search I will update it all the time - as often as someone is telling lies.

And the best proof that you are a liar is that you called me a shill.
I know that I am not.
I proofed myself with a lof of documents to a lof of people who knows my account in here.
I am connected to many people and I am still searching good connections. They are maybe smarter and told me: Dont try it.
But well --- here I am --- best social experiment since school Smiley

Leads to the proof that you are calling other third parties in here scam without any proof.
And leads to the motivation of you? I already told my motivation in here and in this post.
And I proofed my orders of DragonMint with screenshots of mine.
And I did not miffed you once, but you did it twice now. This is your level of IQ? woooow ... hope all lemmings will follow you, the master lemming Smiley

And that means you just right now proofed that you are the person who is just a scam and talking biggest possible lies in here. Thumbs up.
I really hope nobody will ever read you or believe you again after this baiting campaign against all sources and proofs.

Saying its not safe. Ok.
Saying its maybe still a good prepared scam. Well, ok.

But saying IT IS scam and that I AM a shill is just defamation. Wow, what a perfect argument and source. You are so smart  Roll Eyes Grin Cheesy

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January 11, 2018, 08:48:31 PM
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I know this is supposed to be in group but or whatever,
But, is there enough people that are willing to gamble to fill an order of 10 or 5 or whatever the he MOQ is?

See my previous post.

I have 2 orders for 5 ea.

Also regarding QQ, personally I feel like this person isn't adding anything positive to the discussion and are just walking around with a gas can and a wild look in their eye.

If they are a rep, they suck at their job
If they aren't then I don't understand why THIS is what they have chosen to stand ground on.

I have long since given up trying to understand the bizarre motivations of internet trolls.

And lets call a spade a spade.  This is trolling pure and simple and every single person that engages is enabling /rant


I have no cachet on this forum and so expect no confidence, but I will definitely be posting in this thread about any developments that I as a "customer"* of Halong is included in.



*as of right now I am a customer.  At some point I may become a victim.  I give no credence at this time to one or the other as the equation is still unbalanced.
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January 11, 2018, 08:55:26 PM
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is there any prouf that we will receave the miners if we order them? and why are they so cheap compared to the nantminer seems fishy to me also only bitcoin payment option, also not even telephone number or adress on the site

Price was actually higher than antminer before bitmain raised rates.

Halong had a black friday promotional rate of 1465 per unit/powersupply

Now they are $2000 which is significantly higher than bitmains old pricing.  I ordered 5 S9s last year and I paid 1520 ea including powersupply.

Funny thing is they were all Jan batch units.  I have already received them.  In one case, a month early.

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is there any prouf that we will receave the miners if we order them? and why are they so cheap compared to the nantminer seems fishy to me also only bitcoin payment option, also not even telephone number or adress on the site

Yeah it can seem fishy. True. But isnt Smiley

If you dont trust the words of Jan Braiins (CEO @Slushpool), Adam Back (known Cryptographer) or maybe just trust that btcdrak is involved in helping Halong...

Maybe ask themself (Halong) before beeing scary about its fishy? Always best way to not talk about someone. Ask him and get in contact.
Why I know you did not and never asked them anything? Because I did and got in touch with them very nice. The answer came in under 12 hours via normal support.
Now I have another option to connect with them, too. (phone app)

I myself hopefull can visit a testmachine in the EU soon this month, because the other testmachines are too far away for me to visit.
I could visit them right now, but my destination is a bit too far for a quick visit, but short enough to maybe do it.

That is the offer I got official from a Halong employeer, but on the other hand I ordered a big bunch of them. I dont know if any "none believer/customer" will be able to get such a demonstration. Just ask them.
And I dont know if I am able to master such a travel right now. But 3rd parties are testing the machines around the world and I (you/investors) can visit them.
And already some did and visited such a testmachine. Why they all should lie and risk their names?
Are you from Russia, USA, Norway, Spain, Iceland? ... then maybe its just a short walk to such a test machine.

Get in touch with them. They are very friendly and its not fair what people are saying in here about them.
If you once are connected with them, you will understand what I mean.

Its time to proof why not believing the sources, proofs and facts and not the other way around.

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January 11, 2018, 11:45:04 PM
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is there any prouf that we will receave the miners if we order them? and why are they so cheap compared to the nantminer seems fishy to me also only bitcoin payment option, also not even telephone number or adress on the site

Yeah it can seem fishy. True. But isnt Smiley

If you dont trust the words of Jan Braiiners (CEO @Slushpool), Adam Back (known Cryptographer) or maybe just trust that btcdrak is involved in helping Halong...

Maybe ask themself (Halong) before beeing scary about its fishy? Always best way to not talk about someone. Ask him and get in contact.
Why I know you did not and never asked them anything? Because I did and got in touch with them very nice. The answer came in under 12 hours via normal support.
Now I have another option to connect with them, too. (phone app)

I myself hopefull can visit a testmachine in the EU soon this month, because the other testmachines are too far away for me to visit.
I could visit them right now, but my destination is a bit too far for a quick visit, but short enough to maybe do it.

That is the offer I got official from a Halong employeer, but on the other hand I ordered a big bunch of them. I dont know if any "none believer/customer" will be able to get such a demonstration. Just ask them.
And I dont know if I am able to master such a travel right now. But 3rd parties are testing the machines around the world and I (you/investors) can visit them.
And already some did and visited such a testmachine. Why they all should lie and risk their names?
Are you from Russia, USA, Norway, Spain, Iceland? ... then maybe its just a short walk to such a test machine.

Get in touch with them. They are very friendly and its not fair what people are saying in here about them.
If you once are connected with them, you will understand what I mean.

Its time to proof why not believing the sources, proofs and facts and not the other way around.

Thats cute and all, but a few photos and videos go a long way. With a severe lack of this, from people claiming to be at the pinnacle of tech innovation I can see why so many are calling bs.

Also didn't slush say they had nothing to do with this?
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is there any prouf that we will receave the miners if we order them? and why are they so cheap compared to the nantminer seems fishy to me also only bitcoin payment option, also not even telephone number or adress on the site

Yeah it can seem fishy. True. But isnt Smiley

If you dont trust the words of Jan Braiiners (CEO @Slushpool), Adam Back (known Cryptographer) or maybe just trust that btcdrak is involved in helping Halong...

Maybe ask themself (Halong) before beeing scary about its fishy? Always best way to not talk about someone. Ask him and get in contact.
Why I know you did not and never asked them anything? Because I did and got in touch with them very nice. The answer came in under 12 hours via normal support.
Now I have another option to connect with them, too. (phone app)

I myself hopefull can visit a testmachine in the EU soon this month, because the other testmachines are too far away for me to visit.
I could visit them right now, but my destination is a bit too far for a quick visit, but short enough to maybe do it.

That is the offer I got official from a Halong employeer, but on the other hand I ordered a big bunch of them. I dont know if any "none believer/customer" will be able to get such a demonstration. Just ask them.
And I dont know if I am able to master such a travel right now. But 3rd parties are testing the machines around the world and I (you/investors) can visit them.
And already some did and visited such a testmachine. Why they all should lie and risk their names?
Are you from Russia, USA, Norway, Spain, Iceland? ... then maybe its just a short walk to such a test machine.

Get in touch with them. They are very friendly and its not fair what people are saying in here about them.
If you once are connected with them, you will understand what I mean.

Its time to proof why not believing the sources, proofs and facts and not the other way around.

Thats cute and all, but a few photos and videos go a long way. With a severe lack of this, from people claiming to be at the pinnacle of tech innovation I can see why so many are calling bs.

Also didn't slush say they had nothing to do with this?

No. You just got what the scammer and trolls made great everywhere and you know the half story.
Read between page 34 to 37. Its already in here.

Its confirmed that it was in the room of Slushpool.
Confirmed by Jan Braiins (CEO of Slushpool)
Just visit his official Twitter profil and you will find it public announced.

But the one thing does not exclude the other thing.
Official Slushpool as company did not developed it, they dont belong to Halong and they are not connected in any business way for now.


--> https://twitter.com/slush_pool/status/933735724104503296

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January 12, 2018, 03:16:56 AM
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QuackQuack, QuackQuack! Even on ignore you still take up way too much space in this thread, QuackQuack, QuackQuack.  Cheesy
Just put her on ignore, folks, way funnier that way. QuackQuack, QuackQuack.  Cheesy

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is there any prouf that we will receave the miners if we order them? and why are they so cheap compared to the nantminer seems fishy to me also only bitcoin payment option, also not even telephone number or adress on the site

Yeah it can seem fishy. True. But isnt Smiley

If you dont trust the words of Jan Braiiners (CEO @Slushpool), Adam Back (known Cryptographer) or maybe just trust that btcdrak is involved in helping Halong...

Maybe ask themself (Halong) before beeing scary about its fishy? Always best way to not talk about someone. Ask him and get in contact.
Why I know you did not and never asked them anything? Because I did and got in touch with them very nice. The answer came in under 12 hours via normal support.
Now I have another option to connect with them, too. (phone app)

I myself hopefull can visit a testmachine in the EU soon this month, because the other testmachines are too far away for me to visit.
I could visit them right now, but my destination is a bit too far for a quick visit, but short enough to maybe do it.

That is the offer I got official from a Halong employeer, but on the other hand I ordered a big bunch of them. I dont know if any "none believer/customer" will be able to get such a demonstration. Just ask them.
And I dont know if I am able to master such a travel right now. But 3rd parties are testing the machines around the world and I (you/investors) can visit them.
And already some did and visited such a testmachine. Why they all should lie and risk their names?
Are you from Russia, USA, Norway, Spain, Iceland? ... then maybe its just a short walk to such a test machine.

Get in touch with them. They are very friendly and its not fair what people are saying in here about them.
If you once are connected with them, you will understand what I mean.

Its time to proof why not believing the sources, proofs and facts and not the other way around.

Thats cute and all, but a few photos and videos go a long way. With a severe lack of this, from people claiming to be at the pinnacle of tech innovation I can see why so many are calling bs.

Also didn't slush say they had nothing to do with this?

No. You just got what the scammer and trolls made great everywhere and you know the half story.
Read between page 34 to 37. Its already in here.

Its confirmed that it was in the room of Slushpool.
Confirmed by Jan Braiins (CEO of Slushpool)
Just visit his official Twitter profil and you will find it public announced.

But the one thing does not exclude the other thing.
Official Slushpool as company did not developed it, they dont belong to Halong and they are not connected in any business way for now.


--> https://twitter.com/slush_pool/status/933735724104503296

Until there is hard evidence, which is unbelievably easy to prove these days, then it is vaporware.

You want to believe because you potentially wasted a ton of money on a scam.

If it exists everyone will be a fan. It just makes no sense from a marketing perspective to act this way if there is a real product. I would love a faster Bitmain alternative, but trust my gut over some nonsense with no proof.
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January 12, 2018, 06:22:23 AM
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I think that the reason they are still using other miners Operating Systems is because their software is not ready yet, you can imagine how scarce Linux devs must be these days considering how everyone just wants to push out a good fat solidity.  Grin
I saw BTCDrak did fork the S9 OS and he is probably working man-alone trying to get this thing ready in time for release so this would also explain the reluctance to allow these things into the wild.
Ironic the times we live in where Engineers are available by the dozen but a REAL dev is hard to come by.

Anyway to be honest I don't give a crap what the user interface looks like, as long as these things hash like the clappers and turn off when they hit 105 degrees.

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I think that the reason they are still using other miners Operating Systems is because their software is not ready yet, you can imagine how scarce Linux devs must be these days considering how everyone just wants to push out a good fat solidity.  Grin
I saw BTCDrak did fork the S9 OS and he is probably working man-alone trying to get this thing ready in time for release so this would also explain the reluctance to allow these things into the wild.
Ironic the times we live in where Engineers are available by the dozen but a REAL dev is hard to come by.

Anyway to be honest I don't give a crap what the user interface looks like, as long as these things hash like the clappers and turn off when they hit 105 degrees.



Pfffffft I feel this is a supposed religious experience. I am supposed to have faith in certain people... F it show me the goods.

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January 12, 2018, 07:21:04 AM
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I think that the reason they are still using other miners Operating Systems is because their software is not ready yet, you can imagine how scarce Linux devs must be these days considering how everyone just wants to push out a good fat solidity.  Grin
I saw BTCDrak did fork the S9 OS and he is probably working man-alone trying to get this thing ready in time for release so this would also explain the reluctance to allow these things into the wild.
Ironic the times we live in where Engineers are available by the dozen but a REAL dev is hard to come by.

Anyway to be honest I don't give a crap what the user interface looks like, as long as these things hash like the clappers and turn off when they hit 105 degrees.



Pfffffft I feel this is a supposed religious experience. I am supposed to have faith in certain people... F it show me the goods.

when I was a kid..there was an honest to god UFO at sunset in town...it sat there...saucer-shaped with 3 proportionally placed eye-shaped windows...

So for the first 15 min or so ..people could not believe it was a UFO..the last 25 min it sat there people we're trying to figure out the best way to interact with

whatever when it landed (this is Minnesota.....I suspect someone would have offered potluck)..this was adults talking..I was a kid and could listen in...

IT was a weather balloon ....made into the shape of a UFO saucer, buy upper atmosphere winds pulling it into the shape of a saucer

the supposed windows were the USA in large letters on the side (1960's) again proportional

the top and bottom giant letters scrunched up in the saucer shape.....making the perfect eye-shaped windows..damn convincing to a whole town for 40 min so...

my point is a variety of folk can look at something with disbelief....then after a point of time accept it as fact...just to find out it was not factual at all


but anyway, the point is ....even with photo's stuff is not always what it seems....all the info...even compared to the above on this thread is flimsy

but even with a unit demo (like BFL) the particular product may never come to pass on a pre-order....like BFL never shipped in mass ...like KNC miners..who

took the pre-order money, built data halls with it and mined for 4-5 months ..then shipped the pre-oder Neptunes 7-8 months late that never ROI'd

We have dozens of cases of this happening (at least since I got in from 2013 on)


good intentions are great, hope is OK....proof is what is needed...and still...no Unicorn proof that I can tell yet on these miners

hopefuly, the above is a cautionary tale and the stuff exists....but as my UFO example above...sometimes it just ain't so!


 
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January 12, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
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I can assure you, once the firmware is in production mode, y’all are going to really like it... for more than one reason.

I specialize in business development for ASIC mining hardware manufacturing companies: https://www.scottofford.com/
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January 12, 2018, 11:26:36 AM
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I can assure you, once the firmware is in production mode, y’all are going to really like it... for more than one reason.

Since slush confirmed the situation too, They are %90+ legit to me now.

Now I just hope that halong will accept smaller orders from us instead of minimum 5 pieces. If they create a better worldwide distribution and customer service too bitmain will get rekt in no time. That piece of shit company and its ceo is one of the most hated figures in the btc world.

No one will shed tears after bitmain.




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January 12, 2018, 12:19:41 PM
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Just wondering at all;

did ANY one received a order by halong mining at all yet?
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January 12, 2018, 12:23:48 PM
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Just wondering at all;

did ANY one received a order by halong mining at all yet?

They have said first batch is due to delivery in March.

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