DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com

[blendahtom]

We'll be finding out very soon. 

I signed an NDA .. so I'm biased but I'm quite convinced of their legitimacy.

[Dr.Mann]

I don't care if  they are not revealing their business name.
Say it is:

IBM dba MyRig,Inc
Apple dba MyRig,Inc

searching MyRig,Inc  will get no info.

Phil, the information you've posted above is factually incorrect. When one searches the Colorado Secretary of State's database (http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityCriteriaExt.do?resetTransTyp=Y), the search results show which entities are validly incorporated. It also shows "DBA" ("Doing Business As") results, which are also known as "trade names."

An entity that is transacting under a trade name (a.k.a. a "DBA") must disclose that it is operating under a trade name. Registering the trade name with the Colorado Secretary of State is required under Colorado law as it provides notice to the world as to the underlying entity or person accountable for the business. (See Colorado Revised Statutes, §71-101, "Statement of trade name required", available by searching the CRS from here: https://leg.colorado.gov/laws.)

The entire reason that a business's real name and ownership must be publicly disclosed is accountability in case the business is a bad actor. For example, a business must be held accountable by government authorities for criminal action or other wrong-doing, or a person or corporation may wish to bring a civil action against that business for some other violation of rights, such as fraud. If an entity were permitted not to reveal its business name, as you suggest, holding it accountable would be difficult or impossible not only for the government, but also for the average citizen. We don't accept that scenario in the U.S. among legitimate businesses.

Within Colorado, the state in which it has been operating (at a UPS Store private mailbox address), "MyRig, Inc." is not validly incorporated, it is not operating under a trade name or a DBA, and therefore we have no way to hold it accountable in Colorado if it is part of a long con with Halong Mining. To that extent, MyRig is not credible and fails even the most rudimentary due diligence test. Halong Mining's touted "affiliation" with MyRig casts doubt on Halong and the entire DragonMint product line until such time that those responsible for "MyRig, Inc." step forward and explain this discrepancy.

[andytranter]

We'll be finding out very soon. 

I signed an NDA .. so I'm biased but I'm quite convinced of their legitimacy.

Scott Offord has been reincarnated! ! ! ! !

[Searing]

We'll be finding out very soon.  

I signed an NDA .. so I'm biased but I'm quite convinced of their legitimacy.

Seems a lot of work to give a Newbie post a NDA when all the frack they have to do is show a unit running as a demo......

I mean really, if this stuff exists...how clueless do they think we are....a newbie account with 4 posts for crying out loud saying I signed a NDA

trust me...sheesh....still smells....even it the units exist..they have pre-mined the f*ck out of them...they likely will be overpriced compared to prices when shipped

and likely IMHO late, with other excuses....

[blendahtom]

Seems a lot of work to give a Newbie post a NDA when all the frack they have to do is show a unit running as a demo......

I mean really, if this stuff exists...how clueless do they think we are....a newbie account with 4 posts for crying out loud saying I signed a NDA

trust me...sheesh....still smells....even it the units exist..they have pre-mined the f*ck out of them...they likely will be overpriced compared to prices when shipped

and likely IMHO late, with other excuses....

I'll be happy to post pics when my batch comes in.

How's that sound?

T


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[Searing]

I'll be happy to post pics when my batch comes in.

How's that sound?

T

same song, same dance ...IF they come in...and IF they come in NOT late...and IF they come in not pre-mined...and IF they come in, at any better rate of price

then just getting a bitmain unit that also ships in March 2018 with less angst and the same 'dubious' ROI with all the 3 months of accumulated bitmain units that

all dump at the same time in March.....

but sure, you ACTUALLY get one...I'm always up for 'unicorn spotting'

seriously though, I hope it all works out...but this will be the biggest clusterf*ck of a launch I have EVER seen, since being into crypto from 2013...IF IT IS NOT a

scam, if it IS a scam (or late/or whatever/or pre-mined) that I've seen plenty of since 2013

good luck!

brad


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[Dr.Mann]

I'll be happy to post pics when my batch comes in.

How's that sound?

Honestly, it sounds unconvincing and sparse. How about disclosing today any other details about the circumstances surrounding your opportunity to sign the NDA, short of violating your NDA? There is much you can tell us without violating any NDA you claim you signed. Who are you? What can you tell us about your mining history and plans? What processes and tools do you like to use to verify the authenticity of mining hardware when given the opportunity to inspect it? What due diligence checks do you like to conduct on businesses that sell mining hardware? These are general questions and not specific to Halong Mining, so it would not violate an NDA to answer in general terms not specific to any one company.

[blendahtom]

I'll be happy to post pics when my batch comes in.

How's that sound?

Honestly, it sounds unconvincing and sparse. How about disclosing today any other details about the circumstances surrounding your opportunity to sign the NDA, short of violating your NDA? There is much you can tell us without violating any NDA you claim you signed. Who are you? What can you tell us about your mining history and plans? What processes and tools do you like to use to verify the authenticity of mining hardware when given the opportunity to inspect it? What due diligence checks do you like to conduct on businesses that sell mining hardware? These are general questions and not specific to Halong Mining, so it would not violate an NDA to answer in general terms not specific to any one company.

I'd rather wait 

[-ck]

I've been hired by bitmain warrantymyrig, I know the person by name personally who hired me, the scope is extremely flexible just to clean up whatever's involved with the driver, my reputation speaks for itself, the device is definitely real but I couldn't possibly speak for timelines of production and guarantee delivery ffs that has nothing to do with me.

[Searing]

I've been hired by bitmain warranty, I know the person by name personally who hired me, the scope is extremely flexible just to clean up whatever's involved with the driver, my reputation speaks for itself, the device is definitely real but I couldn't possibly speak for timelines of production and guarantee delivery ffs that has nothing to do with me.

I stand corrected on your post. I too believe it is real....but (see my previous posts) you guys are NOT out of the woods yet, who ordered...I wish you luck

however and hope it works out AT LEAST as well as you all just getting some Bitmain Units (also stated for March 2018).  Thus worse case for the folk

that ordered was a lot angst, to be in the same 'boat' as bitmain folk getting stuff in March for sha-256....knock wood.......

again, I've been on the wrong end of these deals before, would not wish it on anybody....would rather eat crow...(by the way how does one season crow? Seems

I mentioned something about 'eating crow' if the product existed.....but am unclear on proper preparation etc

[-ck]

My bad sorry, bitmain warranty is now called myrig. BTW I have absolutely no financial stake in the company whatsoever beyond being paid to do cgminer driver cleanups so I have nothing to gain by staking my reputation on them.

[Bob-Bit]

I believe you CK. Maybe they are just avoiding talking to anyone because once you open the door every idiot in the world is going to have 20 repetitive questions, in 27 different languages, and they are trying to put every ounce of their energy into the actual product, and getting it out on time. There could be a language barrier that makes it even more difficult (having to have someone translate, or proofread your replies to make sure there aren't any errors, or that the english sounds...like english) Like if anyone on here ever got someones email and distributed it, it could be a huge hassle when you're working 60 hour weeks to meet a deadline. Also, sometimes the nerd factor could come into play. Someone could be the most skilled electronic inventor/software engineer in the world, and be so socially awkward they have trouble looking the girl at Burger King in the eye. I know some people exactly like this. I'm cheering this project on, I really hope it ends up being real, and that my lack of faith doesn't screw me out of being able to get one on the second batch at least. I didn't have the moneys to get one of the first batch, if I had even gotten screwed on one of them it would of put my whole operation in serious jeopardy, as I never got into the game till the last halving, and I'm still building slowly. Good luck to everyone, and may all your miners ship on time!

[Sandal_Hat]

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If all goes well, u can test a unit in march right?

Phil, why not u just pay them for one unit first and get that one unit shipped asap and tested before u pay them for the other 4. This is still not a sure thing. There are those that say they could have been in innosilicon factory. That would explain the vid because there were no other DM stickers on the other DM units that are wrapped in plastic. There were DM stickers only for the units on show. There is a chance that they did get into innosilicon factory as others say....and maybe placed the stickers there.
CK never saw or tested the units. He helped them remotely only. This is not a 100% either.


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[philipma1957]

If all goes well, u can test a unit in march right?

Phil, why not u just pay them for one unit first and get that one unit shipped asap and tested before u pay them for the other 4. This is still not a sure thing. There are those that say they could have been in innosilicon factory. That would explain the vid because there were no other DM stickers on the other DM units that are wrapped in plastic. There were DM stickers only for the units on show. There is a chance that they did get into innosilicon factory as others say....and maybe placed the stickers there.
CK never saw or tested the units. He helped them remotely only. This is not a 100% either.

It is sure that it exists .  Just not sure if and when people will get them.  Which is why I will not send mony via cc or paypal to yoshi until he tells me to.

I suggest waiting to pay for these to all that want them. Until they show in the field and btw they are better specs  but an s-9 selling at 800 to 1000 is a better deal to anyone with low power cost.  So even if these show up and work and do 16th at 1200 watts

antminer might simply sell the s-9 for 800 to 1000


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[HagssFIN]

First guys to soon receive a Dragonmint unit, please check your machine if we can find out some more information to clear out this 'bermuda triangle' theory. 

I highly suspect that Innosilicon hardware is involved in the Dragonmint unit.

Halong Mining Innosilicon DragonMint 16Th/s  ?

Still haven't got any replies from Halong or Inno for my questions about this.

This partnership with Myrig.com is the most positive thing that has happened so far,

but I'm affraid their retail price will be really really high, the same as with the S9 miners.

Some new images are uploaded in the Myrig.com shop.

I managed to find the high-res images, they were 'hidden'.

See this Imgur album for the picture found at DragonMint product page: https://imgur.com/a/WaHLd

We can finally have a slightly little better look at the miner.

For cooling there seems to be two pieces Delta TFC1212DE, front and back, in a push-pull configuration.

And I think I now know why the miner web configuration page was just like with the Innosilicon A5 and A4+.
The DragonMint miner has the exact same controller board.
See it for yourself, here is a picture for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/jxHeSP6.jpg

Also the steel case tube looks a lot like the one Innosilicon uses for the A5 and A4+.

Maybe the Halong Mining actually has a subcontract for these miners to be manufactured by Innosilicon?

And another design comparison here (pay attention to the controller with this image as well): https://i.imgur.com/a9sZcJa.jpg

I surely can't be the only one who sees these similiar design details?

One detail to also pay attention  is that the Innosilicon control board uses reversed PWM signal for the cooling fan control.
This method is not that commonly used.
Delta TFC1212DE are cooling fans that are controlled with a reversed PWM signal.
DragonMint and Innosilicon A4+, A5 miners use these cooling fans.
This detail also supports my theory.

Its not really that much new, it was announced one day later after Bitmain has announce their A3 miner, something seems fishy, like they are trying to compete with them...

I think they have a hidden connection.  And are far more related to each other then we know.


But that is my own conspiracy theory.

Well, to make it more interesting, I bet there is some kind of a triangle connection between Halong-Innosilicon-Bitmain  

Gotta love them consiparicy theories.

But seriously, I think Inno is somehow involved in this Dragonmint project.

Kind of a Bermuda Triangle but  based in Asia instead.  Cool

[philipma1957]

Sent the email  below a few minutes ago:


Re: Dragonmint
Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:35 PM
From:
"PHILIP Axxxxxx" <philipaxxxxxx@yahxxom>
To:
philipaxxxxx@yahxxom "Yoshi Gxxx" <yoshi@bixxxxxxxxxxxxyom>

Dear Yoshi

Happy New Years!

Now that holidays are over I thought I might ask if you can get 1 early unit as  you mentioned to me in our emails.

   I would not reveal anything to the public other then that it works along with the power it consumes to hash at 16th.
 I will soon be doing a nice gpu review a large industrial style 16 gpu unit.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3015786.0

It would be nice to get a unit from you as soon as you can provide one. I can pay with paypal when you are ready to ship the early one to me.  I would need 5 all told.. 1 soon then 4  in late March .

Buysolar and I are planning to add a second solar array  which will more then double our power So units from you and the 16 gpu units will be nice to have on hand.

Best  regards,

phil

Note I am posting this email in the dragonmint thread

[BlockTangle]

It doesn't mean much right now, but I'll be glad to post pics and specs of the 5 units I ordered for the April batch if/when I receive them. I'm guessing they'll arrive on April 30th! Also, I ordered 10 PSUs with the hope of being able to run all of them off my standard 110v home circuits...2 PSUs per miner. If that doesn't work then I suppose I'll have to pay for a few 220v circuits to be installed. I remain optimistic about their arrival, of course! 

[TracerX]

It doesn't mean much right now, but I'll be glad to post pics and specs of the 5 units I ordered for the April batch if/when I receive them. I'm guessing they'll arrive on April 30th! Also, I ordered 10 PSUs with the hope of being able to run all of them off my standard 110v home circuits...2 PSUs per miner. If that doesn't work then I suppose I'll have to pay for a few 220v circuits to be installed. I remain optimistic about their arrival, of course! 

Amperage is what you need to be on the lookout for at home, not necessarily voltage.  Your circuits probably run 15-20 amps per, and these miners will burn about 10 amps per unit at 110v.  You may be able to run two per circuit, but you'll be cutting it close.  If you upgrade to 220 you basically cut your amperage in half.  One 30 amp 220v circuit will run all five without tripping the breaker (although I would pay for two 30 amp circuits and balance them between).  Maybe an electrician can chime in here, I only know this stuff through experience, not trade.

Electricity aside, what you really have to deal with is the heat.  These devices are high wattage, and therefore create thousands of BTUs per machine.  You can find a calculator online to give you an estimate.  If you have these indoors you'll find that residential AC won't cut it, even with just three machines or so.  You'll need to devise a way to move hot air outside and pull an equal amount of cooler air into your space.  There is some math involved, and I suggest you do your due diligence and wrap your head around it before you have a 200f degree room in your home.

Good luck.

[The Demon Slick]

It doesn't mean much right now, but I'll be glad to post pics and specs of the 5 units I ordered for the April batch if/when I receive them. I'm guessing they'll arrive on April 30th! Also, I ordered 10 PSUs with the hope of being able to run all of them off my standard 110v home circuits...2 PSUs per miner. If that doesn't work then I suppose I'll have to pay for a few 220v circuits to be installed. I remain optimistic about their arrival, of course! 

Speaking as one who tried everything else first and ended up getting 220, I would suggest you skip the in between and just get the 220. I had 2 circuits 2 outlets each for a total of 4, electrician charged 750 USD including the stock he used. I live in the expensive northeast and my house is 120 years old. The converters I bought that were terrible cost almost as much and I had to sell them at a big loss.I hope you get your units.

[TracerX]

Speaking as one who tried everything else first and ended up getting 220, I would suggest you skip the in between and just get the 220.

If you can afford to do this, best option.  I would figure out the heat first, though.