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February 08, 2018, 09:43:10 PM
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March 2018 shipping is supposedly, 22 days away..they did say units would ship in March 2018 I think I read...(can anyone confirm this?).no real pics/demo/etc to review.....you'd think they'd

From what they said: they will start shipping at the end of March and there will not be many units sent in March. Most of the units will be shipped early April. Just as FYI.

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February 09, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
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Control boards are missing entirely.

I think they should change the video to "Stacking of DragonMint 16T". Production of a miner is typically quite a bit more complex than placing a thing on a pallet.

Yeah they suddenly think it is better idea to pack them to a pallet without any control board included, after I mentioned that it is a Innosilicon control board.

Seriously, wtf.  Huh

Something in all this smells fishy.

Also kicking me out of the telegram group chat seems fishy.


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February 09, 2018, 02:08:12 AM
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Just a food for brain... IF someone orders full palettes... Will that person need to manually connect all boards, and cables with hashboards and control boards? Thats seems to much work that is not needed for 50-100 units...
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February 09, 2018, 02:09:29 AM
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Packing those miners without a control board seems fishy as hell, and only reason I can think of is that because I've revealed that it is a Innosilicon hardware.

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February 09, 2018, 06:30:19 AM
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From what they said: they will start shipping at the end of March and there will not be many units sent in March. Most of the units will be shipped early April. Just as FYI.



Isn't that the same Yoshi guy from the other video? I thought Yoshi worked at MyRig... now he's in the factory stacking pallets. Maybe Halong is a MyRig company all along? Or is this not the same dude?

I get more confused by the minute.
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February 09, 2018, 05:18:54 PM
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Control boards are missing entirely.

I think they should change the video to "Stacking of DragonMint 16T". Production of a miner is typically quite a bit more complex than placing a thing on a pallet.

This video from their twitter post, says, "some miners awaiting QA" in the video description.  I wish I could zoom in
on those stickers on the sides, to get a glimpse of what they say. But, and a big but (no pun intended), perhaps the
boards and controllers are not connected for QA purposes.


From Hangolin's Twitter post: https://youtu.be/93UzVnRe6t0


Control boards are missing entirely.

I think they should change the video to "Stacking of DragonMint 16T". Production of a miner is typically quite a bit more complex than placing a thing on a pallet.

Yeah they suddenly think it is better idea to pack them to a pallet without any control board included, after I mentioned that it is a Innosilicon control board.

Seriously, wtf.  Huh

Something in all this smells fishy.

Also kicking me out of the telegram group chat seems fishy.



Two possibilities

1 - They are real




2 - This is a video taken after sneaking into innosilicon or bitmain factory.


Oddities and red flags:
-If u look at the background, on the left pallet, the miners have the white rectangular sticker BUT they do not have that black sticker that we see on the main pallet miner. That means the ones we are looking at the main pallet miner have been modified? They didnt modify the ones on the left and top left pallet because they are still wrapped in plastics?

- One of the miners that is still in its plastic wrapping, on left side pallet shows a smooth metal surface. I think the miners in that pallet are not modified as they are still wrapped in plastic.

-The 2 previous halong mining videos were 720p and 1080p. Why is this one 360p resolution?
-The yellow and black sticker looks like bitmains but I dont think it is difficult to make a sticker and paste it. Bitmains sticker is placed abit more lower, this one is placed higher. The smooth metal surface would be harder to do and I believe the accidental reveal online by Hagsfin showed that it could be innosilicon miner.

Do not that this is speculation. I am not saying anyone's factory was broken into. The miner could very well be real. The video isnt exactly clear.






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February 09, 2018, 05:26:15 PM
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The gear is real.

Not sure if it works well.

Not sure if it breaks a lot.

Not sure what repair service will be like.

Not sure how fast they ship.

Not sure if bitmain will:

 a) drop the s-9 down to 1200 to hurt sales of this.
 b) drop sales of s-9 to 900 to kill sale of this.
 c) release a 18 0r 20 0r 22 th miner that uses  1200 to 1300 watts and just match sales price of this.

I am sure my gpus still make money even if I can't buy anymore.

I am sure Feb 9 is today

I am sure March 21 is spring and Yoshi said he will sell me 4-5 miners to be shipped to me in early April. I can pay with cc or paypal as he will trust me.

I  am sure I will check thread every day.


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February 09, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
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The gear is real.

Not sure if it works well.

Not sure if it breaks a lot.

Not sure what repair service will be like.

Not sure how fast they ship.

Not sure if bitmain will:

 a) drop the s-9 down to 1200 to hurt sales of this.
 b) drop sales of s-9 to 900 to kill sale of this.
 c) release a 18 0r 20 0r 22 th miner that uses  1200 to 1300 watts and just match sales price of this.

I am sure my gpus still make money even if I can't buy anymore.

I am sure Feb 9 is today

I am sure March 21 is spring and Yoshi said he will sell me 4-5 miners to be shipped to me in early April. I can pay with cc or paypal as he will trust me.

I  am sure I will check thread every day.



If it is real, the difficulty will skyrocket. That alone is bad for everyone because bitcoin price is no longer skyrocketing like last year. It looks more real than before.

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February 09, 2018, 05:59:32 PM
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My bet is that this is manufactured in Innosilicon facility and shares same components, like control board and the steel tube design.

The constant mystery curtain around this Dragonmint case is just something I can not understand, and also I still don't know why they decided to kick me out in the telegram chat group.

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February 09, 2018, 06:52:11 PM
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If it is real, the difficulty will skyrocket. That alone is bad for everyone because bitcoin price is no longer skyrocketing like last year. It looks more real than before.

The opportunity to buy miner from someone else other than this Bitmain scammer Jihan Wu is bad for everyone?!? Maybe it's bad for you, but it's best thing that happen for everyone else. I just hope this not turn to be just another scam, for the good of the Bitcoin.

A war between asic manufacturers will not be good or bad for bitcoin. It will however, be horrible for miners LOL.
It will not be so bad for manufacturers because it probably cost them under 1,000 usd to make a miner. Bitmain can sell the antminer A3 for 980 USD after all. I read a theory by someone in the forum that it is possible that in future, only asic manufactures will mine because their break even is their machine manufacturing cost which is in the few hundred USD.

I understand that u do not like bitmain but this isnt any good. From wat I see, bitmain wins the war on SIA coin with the A3. If they want to, they can flood the market with S9s. They may even come up with a better chip. Who knows. And if they dont, more difficulty is just bad...

My bet is that this is manufactured in Innosilicon facility and shares same components, like control board and the steel tube design.

The constant mystery curtain around this Dragonmint case is just something I can not understand, and also I still don't know why they decided to kick me out in the telegram chat group.

That makes sense. If true, I guess inno rather do it quietly and thus, thats why there is no acknowledgement.

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February 09, 2018, 09:24:55 PM
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Just a food for brain... IF someone orders full palettes... Will that person need to manually connect all boards, and cables with hashboards and control boards? Thats seems to much work that is not needed for 50-100 units...

The video subtitle is "Some miners awaiting QA." so they would not get shipped in pallets like you see in video.

QA is gonna be saying "Yoshi! you forgot the controllers!!!"
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February 09, 2018, 09:43:10 PM
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The gear is real.


I have to admit it does *appear* at this time that buyers will get something, maybe.

However, the last reply from @bt898 seems like its still the most probable: these are stolen inno prototypes and halong found a way to mass produce them and are even now trying to alter the controller.

Personally, I'm not going anywhere near one of these things.
I'm just not that desperate and the whole thing still stinks.
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February 09, 2018, 10:52:34 PM
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10 second movie, lol. I missed the Dragon on the side (the other side has thd yellow/black sticker).

Yes indeed others has no HB. Does goning out for test reviews  Cheesy

Also shop myrig.com ask hillarious prices for s9 and reseller prices on there dragonmint ...
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February 10, 2018, 05:32:37 AM
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I wonder what asic builders will end up doing about gpu mining.

I purchased 2 full gaming miners for 4600.

Came with everything.  Inculding two 1080tis in each one .

They earn 15 usd. A day and use 750 watts a real major company with 1 year warranty.

Payback is about 320 days.

They would be worth at least 900   Each next dec.  That means 1800 profit So pretty competitive . I paid on Jan 28 and I am Mining today’s date is feb 9 so 12 day wait

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February 10, 2018, 07:16:50 AM
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Packing those miners without a control board seems fishy as hell, and only reason I can think of is that because I've revealed that it is a Innosilicon hardware.
Along the Halong mystery miner line, remember these pictures of AMT's miners supposedly being made that were posted by Josh from AMT? Pics of the boards and such were taken at IMET, the PCB assembly house AMT contracted with. And for the record: The majority of boards produced there either failed to power up at all or died within 1 month of running.

Starts at the above and goes down several more. Those are far more credible 'proof' than what Halong has been providing. Hell, AMT even pulled out the pics of Antec cases they tried using in the beginning Wink


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I wonder what asic builders will end up doing about gpu mining.

I purchased 2 full gaming miners for 4600.

Came with everything.  Inculding two 1080tis in each one .

They earn 15 usd. A day and use 750 watts a real major company with 1 year warranty.

Payback is about 320 days.

They would be worth at least 900   Each next dec.  That means 1800 profit So pretty competitive . I paid on Jan 28 and I am Mining today’s date is feb 9 so 12 day wait

Philip, right now mining is becoming abit of a scam as it is oversupplied. U may never break even u know. The last thing the industry needs is more mining equipment actually. Risks are too high.

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February 10, 2018, 10:15:23 AM
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If it is real, the difficulty will skyrocket. That alone is bad for everyone because bitcoin price is no longer skyrocketing like last year. It looks more real than before.

I'm only asking this because I haven't been around to see when the new miners have come on the market and their impact on network difficulty (except the recent A3 craziness)....

...but the jump from 13-14 TH machines to 16 TH machines... do you think that's gonna be impactful as say, everyone swapping S9's for S11's, etc? Perhaps the impact will be more gradual?
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February 10, 2018, 10:17:59 AM
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I wonder what asic builders will end up doing about gpu mining.


Well if they ever develop ASICs for some of the other ecosystems and algos, they'll probably kill GPU mining. Surprised something for Ethereum doesn't already exist.
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February 10, 2018, 01:21:43 PM
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I wonder what asic builders will end up doing about gpu mining.

I purchased 2 full gaming miners for 4600.

Came with everything.  Inculding two 1080tis in each one .

They earn 15 usd. A day and use 750 watts a real major company with 1 year warranty.

Payback is about 320 days.

They would be worth at least 900   Each next dec.  That means 1800 profit So pretty competitive . I paid on Jan 28 and I am Mining today’s date is feb 9 so 12 day wait

I went this route too recently.  Ordered a dual 1080(not ti) system - had a coupon too so $1,709 and had it up and running in 5 days from payment.

Just ordered 3 more for my office as the work being done on them is all spreadsheets and word - so they can mine in the background all day every day.  Office computers were slated for replacement anyway.

Yes I still have S9s running in a colocation facility.  Yes I will add a DragonMint or 3 when they hit the market and reliability is tested. But this was just too easy and instant of a move to make.  Plus I didn't have to chase GPUs around.
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February 10, 2018, 03:25:47 PM
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Ebangs are out, we now know where the samsung 10nm chips went, 18ts at 5k usd per unit and shipping now. If the dragonminter is real, it just got outclassed and beaten to market.
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