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July 12, 2013, 04:53:43 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. It can be done on GPUs. Look up CUDA Lucas. Its used for finding mersenne primes. Verifies primes over 10 million digits long in days. Oh, I see it now. Primecoin CPU mining is doomed, in a few weeks legions of BTC-ASIC-kicked-GPU-farmers will jump on Primecoin and no one will ever find a block again. |
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jlspartz
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July 12, 2013, 04:59:19 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. It can be done on GPUs. Look up CUDA Lucas. Its used for finding mersenne primes. Verifies primes over 10 million digits long in days. Oh, I see it now. Primecoin CPU mining is doomed, in a few weeks legions of BTC-ASIC-kicked-GPU-farmers will jump on Primecoin and no one will ever find a block again. I'm not a gpu farmer but I think its better to have people that invested in crypto reap the benefit than botnet owners. I like cpu mining but once a coin becomes big botnets step in. So i see gpu mining as good progression. |
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LordMeowMeow
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July 12, 2013, 05:01:06 PM |
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Hey guys, I am getting ~300 pps and been mining for hours. Still no XPMs. Is this normal? (and yes I've read the threads!)
Yes. If you're paranoid you can reload the blockchain. ty, how do I do that? google/reinstalling primecoin isn't helping. |
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maka
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July 12, 2013, 05:02:49 PM |
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Hey guys, I am getting ~300 pps and been mining for hours. Still no XPMs. Is this normal? (and yes I've read the threads!)
Yes. If you're paranoid you can reload the blockchain. ty, how do I do that? google/reinstalling primecoin isn't helping. 300pps several hours without XPM is more normal than normal... |
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itod
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July 12, 2013, 05:06:29 PM |
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I'm not a gpu farmer but I think its better to have people that invested in crypto reap the benefit than botnet owners. I like cpu mining but once a coin becomes big botnets step in. So i see gpu mining as good progression.
Is it really possible that somebody has it's cores maxed to 100% and not noticing he has a bot? Bot-nets are dangerous for stealing passwords, but will they be dangerous for mass-mining? |
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jlspartz
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July 12, 2013, 05:13:12 PM |
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I'm not a gpu farmer but I think its better to have people that invested in crypto reap the benefit than botnet owners. I like cpu mining but once a coin becomes big botnets step in. So i see gpu mining as good progression.
Is it really possible that somebody has it's cores maxed to 100% and not noticing he has a bot? Bot-nets are dangerous for stealing passwords, but will they be dangerous for mass-mining? Yes, some botnets mine in the shadows of masses like litecoin. A large increase there is not noticed like on smaller coins. Plus the botnets are used for DDOSing the exchanges. So they are very harmful to the crypto community. |
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bitdraw
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July 12, 2013, 05:23:27 PM |
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Hey! Are you going to offer a compiled version for win7 64 as well? or is it only for linux? thanks in advance |
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July 12, 2013, 05:53:47 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. It can be done on GPUs. Look up CUDA Lucas. Its used for finding mersenne primes. Verifies primes over 10 million digits long in days. Oh, I see it now. Primecoin CPU mining is doomed, in a few weeks legions of BTC-ASIC-kicked-GPU-farmers will jump on Primecoin and no one will ever find a block again. "And no one will ever find a block again"  So.. I guess the solution would be to not CPU mine it then.. Strangely stupid comment. |
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July 12, 2013, 06:02:29 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. I have few pi's... Yes, I'm thinking primecoin solves many of my complaints about bitcon... Fast block confirms, potential resistance to specialized hardware, and no coin limit. All I think are glaring flaws, but the last is the biggest. It's hard to reconcile the advantage of bitcoins fixed number of coins against the fact that they're still being rapidly issued. Now, if only primecoin could adopt a more marketable/catchy name... |
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July 12, 2013, 06:07:53 PM |
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Is there a paper wallet generator anywhere for XPM?
If you know the address version, you can use vanitygen to generate addresses. Looking at this, it appears that Primecoin's address version is 23. I've just added a couple of scripts to my vanitygen fork to make creating bulk wallets and paper wallets easier. To have vanitygen create a Primecoin address, try this vanitygen -F compressed -X 23 A For bulk-wallet usage, try this, which will generate 10 addresses: ./bulkwallet.sh 23 A 10 | ./paperwallet.sh >paperwallet.html View and print the resulting paper wallet in the browser of your choice. Since we're using vanitygen, the pattern can be more than a single character. If you have a little more time, try this: ./bulkwallet.sh 23 AFoo 10 | ./paperwallet.sh >paperwallet.html |
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July 12, 2013, 06:13:59 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. I have few pi's... Yes, I'm thinking primecoin solves many of my complaints about bitcon... Fast block confirms, potential resistance to specialized hardware, and no coin limit. All I think are glaring flaws, but the last is the biggest. It's hard to reconcile the advantage of bitcoins fixed number of coins against the fact that they're still being rapidly issued. Now, if only primecoin could adopt a more marketable/catchy name... Why is coin limit a flaw? That's the one major advantage of Bitcoin. Controlled and finite supply of currency. Faster block confirms result in more forks, nothing more. Potential resistance to specialized hardware? I don't think so, I am sure we can use CUDA here. Edit: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/493679/prime-generator-for-cuda/8 317 200 Primes / sec |
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Arcas
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July 12, 2013, 06:25:25 PM |
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CUDA is a Nvidia only technology, so people who invested into GPU mining rigs won't benefit from a CUDA miner.
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July 12, 2013, 06:26:29 PM |
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Hopefully not, because: 1) Primecoin looks to be GPU-resistant, it will be very hard to implement calculating it's long integers on something that is design to deal only with vertices 2) GPU rigs are the cancer for mining, eliminating 99% of regular people who are not OK with the idea of monster cases with external GPUs all over the place, laptop users with no external cards, etc. Non-existence of GPU miner is the main reason for Primecoin's unusual popularity. People are successfully mining even on Raspberry Pi's. I have few pi's... Yes, I'm thinking primecoin solves many of my complaints about bitcon... Fast block confirms, potential resistance to specialized hardware, and no coin limit. All I think are glaring flaws, but the last is the biggest. It's hard to reconcile the advantage of bitcoins fixed number of coins against the fact that they're still being rapidly issued. Now, if only primecoin could adopt a more marketable/catchy name... Why is coin limit a flaw? That's the one major advantage of Bitcoin. Controlled and finite supply of currency. Faster block confirms result in more forks, nothing more. Potential resistance to specialized hardware? I don't think so, I am sure we can use CUDA here. Edit: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/493679/prime-generator-for-cuda/8 317 200 Primes / sec If I understand correctly, nvidia cards may have advantage this time, compared to amd cards? |
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Sunny King (OP)
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July 12, 2013, 06:27:12 PM |
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Why is coin limit a flaw? That's the one major advantage of Bitcoin. Controlled and finite supply of currency. Faster block confirms result in more forks, nothing more. Potential resistance to specialized hardware? I don't think so, I am sure we can use CUDA here.
It's not a flaw if you are thinking purely in terms of its store-of-value property. Bitcoin has a stronger scarcity model than gold. However acting as a currency is not only for store-of-value. One needs to do better at all three functions of money. I have discussed this topic in the design paper why minting is designed as such in primecoin. In primecoin a preference toward preserving mining market is favored over a too strong scarcity model. In a couple of years we shall see whether I am right, I think bitcoin is losing its mining market share partly due to this. |
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Arcas
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July 12, 2013, 06:27:32 PM |
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"If I understand correctly, nvidia cards may have advantage this time, compared to amd cards?"
Yes, a CUDA miner would only work with Nvidia cards, as CUDA is a Nvidia patented technology.
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July 12, 2013, 06:28:30 PM |
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 ughhh, another thread cluttering coin. You have no clue what you are talking about huh? See he thinks he knows what he is talking about. I am well aware I have no idea what I'm talking about. Just take me along for the ride and I'll keep sandboxing your builds and sending donations!  I'll just sit in the back of the bus. Don't mind me.  |
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