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February 01, 2014, 08:58:21 AM
Last edit: February 01, 2014, 09:08:52 AM by Acrobat
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I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):


Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat>   Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US?
Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee>   Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on.
Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee>   I'll make all shares equal
Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee>   The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before.
Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee>   well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal
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Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee>   current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers.
Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee>   So I will be able to easily provision new servers
Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee>   Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server
Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee>   both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best
Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee>   I could do a Frankfurt server maybe.
Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee>   Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one.
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Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee>   Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing
Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee>   Which I can solve
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Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee>   I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.
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February 01, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
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See de graphs on the mainpage a lot of miners are (still) down
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February 01, 2014, 09:08:32 AM
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bummer

I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):


Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat>   Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US?
Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee>   Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on.
Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee>   I'll make all shares equal
Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee>   The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before.
Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee>   well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal
Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee>   both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best
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Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee>   current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers.
Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee>   So I will be able to easily provision new servers
Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee>   Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server
Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee>   I could do a Frankfurt server maybe.
Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee>   Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one.
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Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee>   Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing
Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee>   Which I can solve
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Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee>   I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.
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February 01, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
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My account reached hardly half of usual BTC amount (counting unexchanged). Good to know where is a problem.
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February 01, 2014, 09:18:59 AM
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Unfortunately you're right, different server mine different pools, asia server for example despite the highest payday for the week, averaged approx 0.01btc/mh today.


I suspect the server location to have different earnings. I hope i'm wrong.


We use one profit pool and that is middlecoin, now it's spit up like different pools.

As said before it should be: BTC's earned on all servers >> divided by all shares submitted on all servers>> multiplied by user shares >> is payout

It doesn't work like that because I've been hashing exactly the same as somebody else on this forum and he's got 0.02 for every Mh/s I've had half that amount

Is there a way to see global stats by server?
, its obvious that payout, (at least last), depends on the server youre mining.

I understand that H2O wants to follow a different strategies on each server but "profits" should be shared among everybody. I´m first fan of middlecoin and have recomended it to many people but I´m dissapointed because my payout was almost half from previous day and some others had best ever.

Is we could see payout/hashpower for each server would be clarifying.
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February 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
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I understand that H2O wants to follow a different strategies on each server but "profits" should be shared among everybody. I´m first fan of middlecoin and have recomended it to many people but I´m dissapointed because my payout was almost half from previous day and some others had best ever.

Is we could see payout/hashpower for each server would be clarifying.

I could get behind this; if the stats differ people should see where it differs and why.
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February 01, 2014, 09:46:49 AM
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I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):


Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat>   Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US?
Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee>   Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on.
Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee>   I'll make all shares equal
Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee>   The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before.
Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee>   well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal
---
Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee>   current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers.
Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee>   So I will be able to easily provision new servers
Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee>   Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server
Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee>   both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best
Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee>   I could do a Frankfurt server maybe.
Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee>   Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one.
---
Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee>   Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing
Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee>   Which I can solve
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Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee>   I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.



Thanks for that info
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February 01, 2014, 09:57:09 AM
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we are switching coins every 3 seconds on the eu server it seems...
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February 01, 2014, 10:20:17 AM
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for those not too happy with middlecoin,
have a look at http://hashbros.co.in
here's their official thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431140.0
i switched about a week ago , and must say
i'm very pleased with it
very good , informative website , transparency & good profits

kind regards
although it is allowed, you have no style spamming a competing pool in the middlecoin thread.

PMC: 19dNRVPcjsESqo8isdauc1gQ6PbUrAZor9
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February 01, 2014, 10:28:01 AM
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for those not too happy with middlecoin,
have a look at http://hashbros.co.in
here's their official thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431140.0
i switched about a week ago , and must say
i'm very pleased with it
very good , informative website , transparency & good profits

kind regards

When Hashbros starts getting more than 0.013 BTC per Mh/s on their payouts post back.

Until then I'll take the shitty web interface.
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February 01, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
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Is it just the useast server that has better profit than eu/amsterdam or uswest as well?

Todays payout was about 0.014 BTC per Mh/s for us running eu and amsterdam as failover, we didn't get the large unexchanged boom in BTC as the others.

Hard to choose pool? PoolPicker
BTC: 1W3BBSNm3KMtvtMoARiYGjzEoRHB66P
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February 01, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
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Unfortunately you're right, different server mine different pools, asia server for example despite the highest payday for the week, averaged approx 0.01btc/mh today.


I suspect the server location to have different earnings. I hope i'm wrong.


We use one profit pool and that is middlecoin, now it's spit up like different pools.

As said before it should be: BTC's earned on all servers >> divided by all shares submitted on all servers>> multiplied by user shares >> is payout

It doesn't work like that because I've been hashing exactly the same as somebody else on this forum and he's got 0.02 for every Mh/s I've had half that amount

Is there a way to see global stats by server?
, its obvious that payout, (at least last), depends on the server youre mining.

I understand that H2O wants to follow a different strategies on each server but "profits" should be shared among everybody. I´m first fan of middlecoin and have recomended it to many people but I´m dissapointed because my payout was almost half from previous day and some others had best ever.

Is we could see payout/hashpower for each server would be clarifying.

Confirmed that last payout was really crappy. I was mining on Asia server.
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February 01, 2014, 11:01:34 AM
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Is it just the useast server that has better profit than eu/amsterdam or uswest as well?

Todays payout was about 0.014 BTC per Mh/s for us running eu and amsterdam as failover, we didn't get the large unexchanged boom in BTC as the others.


We had a longer mining time bij last payout, 2.5 hours, calculated with that?
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February 01, 2014, 11:10:34 AM
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amsterdam give me ~0.012. Today only 0.01.

Switch to midl. Hope get ~ 0.015  Cheesy
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February 01, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
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I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):


Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat>   Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US?
Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee>   Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on.
Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee>   I'll make all shares equal
Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee>   The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before.
Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee>   well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal
---
Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee>   current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers.
Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee>   So I will be able to easily provision new servers
Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee>   Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server
Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee>   both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best
Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee>   I could do a Frankfurt server maybe.
Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee>   Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one.
---
Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee>   Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing
Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee>   Which I can solve
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Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee>   I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.

I'm on amsterdam, with eu failover  Angry

these are amazon servers. tut, tut amazon.

maybe he needs to buy amazon prime to get a better service.
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February 01, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
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Confirmed that last payout was really crappy. I was mining on Asia server.

I've been mining on the Asia server too and had awful payouts a few times , But if I switch to the main server my hash rate drops, Funny thing is it's dropped on the Asia server "Again" now too.

Can somebody please give me the scan and expiry times they are using for this pool because mine aren't giving good results no matter what I do.
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February 01, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
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I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):


Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat>   Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US?
Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee>   Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on.
Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee>   I'll make all shares equal
Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee>   The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before.
Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee>   well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal
---
Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee>   current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers.
Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee>   So I will be able to easily provision new servers
Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee>   Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server
Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee>   both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best
Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee>   I could do a Frankfurt server maybe.
Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee>   Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one.
---
Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee>   Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing
Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee>   Which I can solve
---
Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee>   I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.

I don't get out of that chat anything about timeframe or priority of the issue. It sounds to me like priority wise it is server disconnects>system for new server>new servers opened in various locations>lowering diff>leveling payout. I.e. are we looking into months for that to happen?
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February 01, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
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I'm on amsterdam, with eu failover  Angry

these are amazon servers. tut, tut amazon.

maybe he needs to buy amazon prime to get a better service.

Haha I don't think amazon has servers in Amsterdam do they?

So basically we eu folks are subsidizing people mining on us servers kinda pissed right now...
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February 01, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
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I'm on amsterdam, with eu failover  Angry

these are amazon servers. tut, tut amazon.

maybe he needs to buy amazon prime to get a better service.

Haha I don't think amazon has servers in Amsterdam do they?

So basically we eu folks are subsidizing people mining on us servers kinda pissed right now...

And if it was the reverse, you would be happy....

don't like this, go mine on MegaMultiPool, or somewhere else  Shocked
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February 01, 2014, 12:11:20 PM
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Somebody please give me their timings for CGMiner , It's giving me a headache , I'm losing heart to be honest.

I've seen somebody getting 1 share per min per R9 290 but I can't find his timings.
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