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August 23, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
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"How to hop Slush's pool" now posted to Hopper's Den. Comments welcome!

Please don't copy and paste it back here though.

http://hoppersden.info/entry.php?15-How-to-hop-1-Slush-s-pool.
Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

The article doesn't exist on that site.

The link doesn't work for you? Does for me. Sorry. Just go to Blogs->recent entries

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August 23, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
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if possible I would like an invitation too. thanks
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August 23, 2011, 09:53:23 AM
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Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

Sorry, Tobin, hoppers only.

if possible I would like an invitation too. thanks

You'll need to pm me an email address. Some of the invites haven't gone through though (sorry bb ... still no fix on that front?)

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August 23, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
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Hi.

Can somebody please help me. Im useless at this.

Ive read the readme and installed active python. Then i did the pypm install greenlet part and exited the window.

Now where the hell do I need to go go get the hopper to work?Huh

Im running on windows by the way.

Can anybody help please?

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August 23, 2011, 10:17:47 AM
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@organofcorti: pm sended... thx!
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August 23, 2011, 10:35:10 AM
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Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

Sorry, Tobin, hoppers only.

Although I am not actively contributing to this thread, I am nonetheless a hopper (I even use my own hopper, which I have written long before bitHopper started to exists).
Is there some kind of examination which one has to pass  Wink.

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August 23, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
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Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

Sorry, Tobin, hoppers only.

Although I am not actively contributing to this thread, I am nonetheless a hopper (I even use my own hopper, which I have written long before bitHopper started to exists).
Is there some kind of examination which one has to pass  Wink.

Not really  Grin  But hoppersden is for info we don't really want leaked

I saw you've been a forumite since early June and you've never posted anything anti-hopper (harrumph, Magnet  Wink ) so get in a few posts here and someone will send you an invite soon.

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August 23, 2011, 11:17:31 AM
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"How to hop Slush's pool" now posted to Hopper's Den. Comments welcome!

Please don't copy and paste it back here though.

http://hoppersden.info/entry.php?15-How-to-hop-1-Slush-s-pool.
Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

The article doesn't exist on that site.

The link doesn't work for you? Does for me. Sorry. Just go to Blogs->recent entries



Nope, doesn't seem to be there at all.   Weird.
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August 23, 2011, 11:25:15 AM
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Anyone able to hook me up with an invite?  About to go to sleep, so I can PM an email later on today.
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August 23, 2011, 11:32:07 AM
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"How to hop Slush's pool" now posted to Hopper's Den. Comments welcome!

Please don't copy and paste it back here though.

http://hoppersden.info/entry.php?15-How-to-hop-1-Slush-s-pool.
Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

The article doesn't exist on that site.

The link doesn't work for you? Does for me. Sorry. Just go to Blogs->recent entries



Nope, doesn't seem to be there at all.   Weird.

Yeh, odd. I'm message myself and see if he knows what is going on. Maybe  I missed some option to make it public

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August 23, 2011, 12:02:17 PM
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Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

Sorry, Tobin, hoppers only.

Although I am not actively contributing to this thread, I am nonetheless a hopper (I even use my own hopper, which I have written long before bitHopper started to exists).
Is there some kind of examination which one has to pass  Wink.

Not really  Grin  But hoppersden is for info we don't really want leaked

I saw you've been a forumite since early June and you've never posted anything anti-hopper (harrumph, Magnet  Wink ) so get in a few posts here and someone will send you an invite soon.
So it seems I have to share my secret knowledge with you all Wink.

One small contribution:
As most of you know, Bitcoinpool has wrong JSON stats. I have seen that bitHopper uses the round duration and the pool speed to approximate the current share number. A somewhat cheaper (in terms of bandwidth) and maybe more exact method is the following:
Grab the account info of an arbitrary user in json-format, e.g. http://bitcoinpool.com/user.php?u=cristy&json=1 .
You see his submitted shares and his estimated rewards for this round. You can get the approximated number of roundshares easily by

appr_shares = 50*(submitted shares)/(estimated rewards)

Example:
submitted: 14670
estimated: 0.52180054

appr_shares = 1405709.55

This method can be made even more exact if you know how much the user donates.
Maybe it is worth it to be added to bitHopper.

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August 23, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
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So it seems I have to share my secret knowledge with you all Wink.

One small contribution:
As most of you know, Bitcoinpool has wrong JSON stats. I have seen that bitHopper uses the round duration and the pool speed to approximate the current share number. A somewhat cheaper (in terms of bandwidth) and maybe more exact method is the following:
Grab the account info of an arbitrary user in json-format, e.g. http://bitcoinpool.com/user.php?u=cristy&json=1 .
You see his submitted shares and his estimated rewards for this round. You can get the approximated number of roundshares easily by

appr_shares = 50*(submitted shares)/(estimated rewards)

Example:
submitted: 14670
estimated: 0.52180054

appr_shares = 1405709.55

This method can be made even more exact if you know how much the user donates.
Maybe it is worth it to be added to bitHopper.

So simple, yet obvious in hindsight. Nice one!

While we're on the bcp subject, any ideas how to get around the IP blocking (for the stats, can still send through shares ok)? I'd just use hotspot shield and then set the url to be localhost:895 but hotspot shield is not available for linux. Know any handy (easy, free) browser based proxy/vpn? All the ones I looked at cost money, weren't available for linux or had no english translation.

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August 23, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
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"How to hop Slush's pool" now posted to Hopper's Den. Comments welcome!

Please don't copy and paste it back here though.

http://hoppersden.info/entry.php?15-How-to-hop-1-Slush-s-pool.
Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

The article doesn't exist on that site.

The link doesn't work for you? Does for me. Sorry. Just go to Blogs->recent entries



Nope, doesn't seem to be there at all.   Weird.

Fixed, I think. I hit 'draft' instead of 'publish'. Duh. Mind checking to see if it worked?
 

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August 23, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
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c00w, seem to be having a problem with the latest gitpull. BH got stuck on "Writing to database" kept looping that over and over. Running it with no flags
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August 23, 2011, 04:58:01 PM
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Can anyone send me an invite, please? I am keen to read it.

Sorry, Tobin, hoppers only.

Although I am not actively contributing to this thread, I am nonetheless a hopper (I even use my own hopper, which I have written long before bitHopper started to exists).
Is there some kind of examination which one has to pass  Wink.

Not really  Grin  But hoppersden is for info we don't really want leaked

I saw you've been a forumite since early June and you've never posted anything anti-hopper (harrumph, Magnet  Wink ) so get in a few posts here and someone will send you an invite soon.
So it seems I have to share my secret knowledge with you all Wink.

One small contribution:
As most of you know, Bitcoinpool has wrong JSON stats. I have seen that bitHopper uses the round duration and the pool speed to approximate the current share number. A somewhat cheaper (in terms of bandwidth) and maybe more exact method is the following:
Grab the account info of an arbitrary user in json-format, e.g. http://bitcoinpool.com/user.php?u=cristy&json=1 .
You see his submitted shares and his estimated rewards for this round. You can get the approximated number of roundshares easily by

appr_shares = 50*(submitted shares)/(estimated rewards)

Example:
submitted: 14670
estimated: 0.52180054

appr_shares = 1405709.55

This method can be made even more exact if you know how much the user donates.
Maybe it is worth it to be added to bitHopper.

I posted this exact method a few days ago and nobody seemed to mather Sad

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I got the same problem as @kbsbtc, BH just freeze the stats page and keep showing "writing to database", miner dies and have to close and run it again.. (v0.2.2.4-68 with --auth --p2pLP and OldDefaultScheduler)

Also getting a lots of "Not enough votes in one direction to make a decision"

and also I send my firsts shares to BtcGuild Smiley
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August 23, 2011, 05:48:47 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32921.200

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Question: do you think pool hopping is ethical? YES  2 (50%)
NO  2 (50%)
 
Total Voters: 4
 

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August 23, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
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I got the same problem as @kbsbtc, BH just freeze the stats page and keep showing "writing to database", miner dies and have to close and run it again.. (v0.2.2.4-68 with --auth --p2pLP and OldDefaultScheduler)

Also getting a lots of "Not enough votes in one direction to make a decision"

and also I send my firsts shares to BtcGuild Smiley
exactly the same here...
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August 23, 2011, 05:58:04 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32921.200

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Question: do you think pool hopping is ethical? YES  2 (50%)
NO  2 (50%)
 
Total Voters: 4
 


The real poll must be: "do you think BMU pool ops are ethical?" :p

LOTS of problems with that pool since ever... close it down, is a fail after fail after fail heheh
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August 23, 2011, 06:24:31 PM
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The real poll must be: "do you think BMU pool ops are ethical?" :p
all my shares from the _old_ pool are away  Shocked
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August 23, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
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The poll is pointless. If enough people say it's ethical does BMU turn off their hopper-cheating mechanism or if enough people say hopping is unethical will he just keep cheating hoppers?

I doubt the former will happen and the latter will happen regardless. When you have an unethical pool operator who has no qualms with cheating a portion of his clients, there is really no limit to how unethical he'll be.

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