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August 09, 2011, 06:39:11 PM
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Ref: original Raulo paper on pool hopping - link

edit: detailed analysis of pooled mining reward system

edit2:
just happened to see this table in Meni's paper, it just reinforces my thoughts on amplification factor (m = number of pools)
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Table B.1: Ampli cation factor of pool-hopping, as a function of the number of proportional
pools.
m|with fallback|without fallback
1 1.28149 |1
2 1.5159 |1.38629
3 1.71404 |1.64792
4 1.88393 |1.84839
5 2.03152 |2.0118
6 2.16131 |2.15011
7 2.27669 |2.27023
8 2.38028 |2.3765
9 2.4741 |2.47188
10 2.55975 |2.55843
15 2.90159 |2.90148
20 3.15341 |3.1534
25 3.353 |3.353



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August 09, 2011, 06:41:56 PM
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Deepbit:

09.08 18:21:52 0h 20m   203 1586080   0.00620744

That's for 2950Mhash/s, Default scheduler and threshold at 60% (.6)

hrm....WTF?!?!? my stats on deepbit say 000 shares for me on that exact round! Although, I know I hopped over to deepbit more than an hour ago. I am just using default scheduler, default threshold.
Deepbit was confirming I submitted shares during that time period ( I watched my worker on their site)
I mine at about 366mh/s
ideas?


EDIT: couple mins later, just saw another LP hit and went over to deepbit...mining there again. Is there a bug thats causing deepbit to get mined on every LP? ... it seems thats the behaviour even when the LP says someone else owns the block.

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August 09, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
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Is slush's website down for everyone?
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August 09, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
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Ugh finally mining on deepbit.

Feels good man. feels good.

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August 09, 2011, 06:46:29 PM
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EDIT: couple mins later, just saw another LP hit and went over to deepbit...mining there again. Is there a bug thats causing deepbit to get mined on every LP? ... it seems thats the behaviour even when the LP says someone else owns the block.

I wait for the stats Tongue They are slow at deebit...

Update: unless Deepbit is very lucky right now, I guess there's a problem with the LP hop to Deepbit... It only mines at Deepbit now...
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August 09, 2011, 06:47:44 PM
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Deepbit is evil!  Smiley Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK]  and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
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OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy


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August 09, 2011, 06:49:36 PM
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If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

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August 09, 2011, 06:50:59 PM
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Deepbit is evil!  Smiley Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK]  and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
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OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy



if they don't take measures...

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August 09, 2011, 06:53:12 PM
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Deepbit is evil!  Smiley Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK]  and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
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OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy



if they don't take measures...

I think Deepbit.net is so big, It doesn't even notice us, unless they read on the forum Tongue
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August 09, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
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Ive got bitHopper running on my main machine with 2 GPUS, and 10 more miners from other machines that connect to it. Including browsing the internet I have used 61.7MB down and 25.6MB up today. Do you have some other software doing auto updates or something in the background?
ok, I think, the first important step will be the miner on the second PC connect to this PC's bithopper...
(because now it is running here 2 times)
how can I do this (if the ip changes every reboot)?

If your talking about your LAN, you could always set a static ip or setup a dhcp reservation.  I just use hostnames, works good so far.
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August 09, 2011, 06:57:16 PM
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If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

Wait, what? I thought deepbit was on PPS. (No matter I don't get how you hop them. ^^)

So if they are on prop, why didn't we hop before? No stats?
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August 09, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
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If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

Wait, what? I thought deepbit was on PPS. (No matter I don't get how you hop them. ^^)

So if they are on prop, why didn't we hop before? No stats?
delayed stats.


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August 09, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
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that seems more than high to me.. we are only sending small strings of text back and forth.. even blocks are normally in the kb range.

chek to see if you got a virus.. make sure wifi is secure

I am going to monitor the miner and hopper and see what I come up with.. but there is no way it is that much i wouldnt think.
I'm on linux, there is not possible a virus
I think the miner really sends only small strings (I have had it running last month without bithopper and the end of my limit/month was 3 days before the month) but I think the constantly monitoring of the pool stats makes much traffic (my speculation)
As first step I have now connected my 2. PC to this (the main) PC's bithopper.
- but if there is some problems or rebooting necessary the connection to this PC is over because it has a new ip!
The second PC has no Monitor and I have always to plug the cables from one to another  Angry
Therefore I am looking for a working solution.
I have tried with vnc, but there is the ip problem after rebooting and it is very slow.
Has anybody eperience with nomachine nx server?
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
I have tried it, but was not able to establish a connection with ssl and have not found much help on the net...
I'm very glad to hear from you how much traffic you have and how it is possible to decrease it  Smiley
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August 09, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
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These are my most recent deepbit stats:


Block   Shares   
Time/Link   Found in   Your   Total   Reward
09.08 10:19:29   0h 03m    25   270595     0.00448087
09.08 10:15:55   0h 01m    7   125063     0.00271463
09.08 10:14:11   0h 07m    0   608030     None
09.08 10:06:16   0h 44m    76   3392096     0.00108664
09.08 09:21:52   0h 20m    0   1586080     None


Oh, and it seems because deepbit doesnt use slicing method on default slicer... Because of this the fresh block on slush was skipped entirely... =/ I dont know if this is the desired behaviour, just some feedback!

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August 09, 2011, 07:22:02 PM
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that seems more than high to me.. we are only sending small strings of text back and forth.. even blocks are normally in the kb range.

chek to see if you got a virus.. make sure wifi is secure

I am going to monitor the miner and hopper and see what I come up with.. but there is no way it is that much i wouldnt think.
I'm on linux, there is not possible a virus
I think the miner really sends only small strings (I have had it running last month without bithopper and the end of my limit/month was 3 days before the month) but I think the constantly monitoring of the pool stats makes much traffic (my speculation)
As first step I have now connected my 2. PC to this (the main) PC's bithopper.
- but if there is some problems or rebooting necessary the connection to this PC is over because it has a new ip!
The second PC has no Monitor and I have always to plug the cables from one to another  Angry
Therefore I am looking for a working solution.
I have tried with vnc, but there is the ip problem after rebooting and it is very slow.
Has anybody eperience with nomachine nx server?
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
I have tried it, but was not able to establish a connection with ssl and have not found much help on the net...
I'm very glad to hear from you how much traffic you have and how it is possible to decrease it  Smiley
TIA

so you could have generated a bit more traffic remote controlling the bH machine with VNC type software ?

you can use no-ip services and their dns auto-updating client for linux to solve the dynamic ip issue
try using "screen" over ssh shell to remote control linux without headaches

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August 09, 2011, 07:25:19 PM
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This seems to work Tongue

09.08 20:19:29 0h 03m   144 270595   0.02580979  
09.08 20:15:55 0h 01m   64 125063   0.02481949  
09.08 20:14:11 0h 07m   288 608030   0.02297255

I now put Deepbit on Penalty 2.5 with Threshold 60, so it stops mining at 25% and see what it does for the same roundlengths...
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August 09, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
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So, I got a question...are we just assuming when a LP is thrown...deepbit owns it and we are hopping to it regardless(cuz they are so huge)? Cuz it seems w/ every LP event, it mines deepbit.

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August 09, 2011, 07:27:13 PM
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This seems to work Tongue

09.08 20:19:29 0h 03m   144 270595   0.02580979  
09.08 20:15:55 0h 01m   64 125063   0.02481949  
09.08 20:14:11 0h 07m   288 608030   0.02297255

I now put Deepbit on Penalty 2.5 with Threshold 60, so it stops mining at 25% and see what it does for the same roundlengths...

here too  Wink

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August 09, 2011, 07:30:36 PM
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@gentarkin / HOW DOES IT WORK
We assume if the LP response from deepbit is first then deepbit owns it. We actually reset the owner to take into account if another pool drops but currently we don't reset deepbits starts due to that.

It looks like efficiency is good. Parai got about 168% and magnet got about 559% efficiency. I just did the calculations for you guys.

EDIT:However I haven't actually gotten my server to mine on deepbit. Only my dev machine. So there may still be errors.

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August 09, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
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for fuck sake! 167+ pages.
Can we move all the chit-chat to our IRC channel #bithopper (freenode)?
For those, who do not have a IRC client: http://webchat.freenode.net/


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