MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread

[zathras]

Hey all

I'd like to offer 150 MSC for sale at the current market rate.  Please let me know if you'd like to purchase.  I'm assuming if you're buying into Mastercoin that you have done your due diligence and thus know who I am.  With that said of course escrow is absolutely fine if you'd like to use it

Now - since I saw a couple of people (imo unfairly) having a pop at Tachikoma & rbdrbd for selling Mastercoins, I thought I'd pre-empt the inevitable "Zathras is dumping all his Mastercoins!" FUD and make a few comments of my own.

First and foremost I want to spend more time on this project.  It's a great project and gives me a lot of enjoyment to work on.  I'm talking with my employer about consulting for them rather than being full-time; this would give me lots more free time.  With that said, in the 4 months I've spent on Mastercoin I have received approx $6,000 and some MSC.  Hopefully you guys in the community will understand that $6,000 isn't the kind of money you can use to end full-time employment - not even close.  By selling some of my MSC I hope to build towards a buffer that allows me to make this move.

Secondly, the question will likely be raised - "why not wait until the DEx?".  Well the answer to that is quite simple also.  I am about to release my wallet (within the next couple of weeks).  I believe there is a large chance of this DEx feature increasing the value of MSC as more people jump in.  I believe there is a much smaller chance of this feature decreasing the value of MSC as it becomes much easier (skill wise) to sell MSC.  So, large chance of an increase = I'm holding a larger portion of my MSC.  Small chance of a decrease = I'm selling a smaller portion of my MSC.

It really is that simple, I certainly haven't lost faith or any of the other comments that were levied at my colleagues in the project.  Just as Gavin or any of the other Bitcoin devs selling a few Bitcoins doesn't carry a deeper meaning, nor does my selling some of my MSC.

Sorry if that comes across as flippant - it's not meant to, but I wanted to make sure I explained my position.  TL:DR; I'm trying to spend more time on Mastercoin

Thanks!

[BitThink]

I always think it's beneficial to the community for early adopters to sell more MSC at current market price. MSC is supposed to be used rather than hoarded. Without selling, no new comers will come.

[BitThink]

I like Pouncer. I want him to be escrow. I got confirmation that indeed I was hacked, but No one is returning messages so I could reimburse him. This was my account, and my account got hacked when the forum went down. I accept all responsibility.It is not pouncers' fault.

If you want to reimburse Doron, please go ahead. Repeating 'I can reimburse him' but do nothing only makes more suspicion on you.

[Pouncer]

I'd like to make 3 comments based on some of the comments posted following my statement.

1. My ongoing role in settling this issue
I've seen repeated comments saying "if Pouncer agrees....", or something to that effect. I'd like to state that going forward, there is nothing that needs my agreement or approval to settle this issue. The buyer sent BTC to an address that was not an escrow address controlled by me. As an escrow agent, my task was to hold the BTC on behalf of the trading parties until the buyer was satisfied that the MSC has been delivered by the seller. Since the BTC bypassed me, there is nothing I could do now because that escrow trade has obviously been aborted due to the incident.

Regarding disclosure of private information of that trade, I am not at liberty to do so. However, nothing is stopping the trading parties to disclose such information should they wish to do so. Again, my consent is not required.

2. My liability on this trade
I'd like to thank Doron404 for his understanding in absolving me of any liabilities. I'd also like to thank other users who share the same opinion.

3. My future role as an escrow agent
I have the benefit of access to the entire trading history & trade information since we started the escrow form system. I have received additional information through PMs from other users regarding this issue. I have also spent considerable time digging into and analyzing relevant information in the public domain surrounding this issue.

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam. As a precaution, and in the interest of traders using my escrow services, and of myself, I have decided that it is in the interest of all parties that I do not continue as an MSC escrow agent.

I appreciate the trust place on me by traders who have used my services. Thank you very much. I believe there are others who are willing and capable to temporarily fill this role before the DEx is launched. I'm also a small investor in MSC and am looking forward to its imminent launch.

Cheers!

[hmmmstrange]

Pouncer,

Just want to thank you for the work you have done.

[Voodah]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

[Peezr]

I like Pouncer. I want him to be escrow. I got confirmation that indeed I was hacked, but No one is returning messages so I could reimburse him. This was my account, and my account got hacked when the forum went down. I accept all responsibility.It is not pouncers' fault.

If you want to reimburse Doron, please go ahead. Repeating 'I can reimburse him' but do nothing only makes more suspicion on you.

He never supplied a btc address.

[christemplemills]

I would like to buy 100 mastercoins for 13btc

[BitThink]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

+1

[Doron404]

I like Pouncer. I want him to be escrow. I got confirmation that indeed I was hacked, but No one is returning messages so I could reimburse him. This was my account, and my account got hacked when the forum went down. I accept all responsibility.It is not pouncers' fault.

If you want to reimburse Doron, please go ahead. Repeating 'I can reimburse him' but do nothing only makes more suspicion on you.

He never supplied a btc address.

Address sent by PM.
Let's now see if you are good for your word.

[Doron404]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

There is a post from Pouncer describing the scam method.
you can Look for it a for it 2-3 pages ago.

[peled1986]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

There is a post from Pouncer describing the scam method.
you can Look for it a for it 2-3 pages ago.

They know how peezr scammed. They want to know why Pouncer thinks this method / other scam methods have been used before.

[jeroenn13]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

There is a post from Pouncer describing the scam method.
you can Look for it a for it 2-3 pages ago.

They know how peezr scammed. They want to know why Pouncer thinks this method / other scam methods have been used before.

Again, this topic is created for buying and selling Mastercoins.
Discuss this anywhere else.

[Voodah]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

There is a post from Pouncer describing the scam method.
you can Look for it a for it 2-3 pages ago.

They know how peezr scammed. They want to know why Pouncer thinks this method / other scam methods have been used before.

Again, this topic is created for buying and selling Mastercoins.
Discuss this anywhere else.

This issues greatly concerns this topic.

Stop censoring unless you own the thread.

[waltz]

I'd like to make 3 comments based on some of the comments posted following my statement.

1. My ongoing role in settling this issue
I've seen repeated comments saying "if Pouncer agrees....", or something to that effect. I'd like to state that going forward, there is nothing that needs my agreement or approval to settle this issue. The buyer sent BTC to an address that was not an escrow address controlled by me. As an escrow agent, my task was to hold the BTC on behalf of the trading parties until the buyer was satisfied that the MSC has been delivered by the seller. Since the BTC bypassed me, there is nothing I could do now because that escrow trade has obviously been aborted due to the incident.

Regarding disclosure of private information of that trade, I am not at liberty to do so. However, nothing is stopping the trading parties to disclose such information should they wish to do so. Again, my consent is not required.

2. My liability on this trade
I'd like to thank Doron404 for his understanding in absolving me of any liabilities. I'd also like to thank other users who share the same opinion.

3. My future role as an escrow agent
I have the benefit of access to the entire trading history & trade information since we started the escrow form system. I have received additional information through PMs from other users regarding this issue. I have also spent considerable time digging into and analyzing relevant information in the public domain surrounding this issue.

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam. As a precaution, and in the interest of traders using my escrow services, and of myself, I have decided that it is in the interest of all parties that I do not continue as an MSC escrow agent.

I appreciate the trust place on me by traders who have used my services. Thank you very much. I believe there are others who are willing and capable to temporarily fill this role before the DEx is launched. I'm also a small investor in MSC and am looking forward to its imminent launch.

Cheers!

thanks for your great job!

[villiva]

Warning! Don't deal with "Peezr"!!! He's a scammer!!!
He just stole 2.88 BTC from me !  

So am i, peezr he is a scammer!
he stole me 2.4btc
and yesterday 9/12 he pm me which said he will refund me.
I don't trust him about he's hacked blablabla.

[jeroenn13]

Based on the above, I have reasons to believe that this may not be a random scam.

Could you please tell us more about this?

I see no reason why important data which can help everyone should be kept secret.

There is a post from Pouncer describing the scam method.
you can Look for it a for it 2-3 pages ago.

They know how peezr scammed. They want to know why Pouncer thinks this method / other scam methods have been used before.

Again, this topic is created for buying and selling Mastercoins.
Discuss this anywhere else.

This issues greatly concerns this topic.

Stop censoring unless you own the thread.

I am not censoring, just trying to keep this topic clean for new interested buyers of Mastercoin.

[klee]

I think the whole Peezr/Doron situation deserves a thread on it's own!

[Doron404]

I think the whole Peezr/Doron situation deserves a thread on it's own!

There's nothing much more to talk about. Unless he'll return the
coins. Maybe, this will give him a little more credibility in here.

And it's important to leave it in the thread, to warn other people
to be careful with their trades!

[klee]

I think the whole Peezr/Doron situation deserves a thread on it's own!

There's nothing much more to talk about. Unless he'll return the
coins. Maybe, this will give him a little more credibility in here.

And it's important to leave it in the thread, to warn other people
to be careful with their trades!

Agreed, but it is important for other people in the forum to know about this too - a scammer may try to scam other people in other coin trades too..