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December 04, 2013, 10:41:22 PM
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I offer myself to help with the escrow and to keep the order book updated. i think more escrow will help liquidity.

Im in front of the computer most of my day anyways.

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December 05, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
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This is becoming a big problem.  Buyers get frustrated by sending 8 e-mails and getting no answer.  We need a rule which clears the books of orders which are not valid/active. 

RULE:  When your order is part of a crossed book - and more than 3 days old - it gets removed.  Both on the buy side - and the sell side.  If a user doesn't like that his order was removed, he only needs to renew it on the 4th day to completely restore his offer.  No problem.  Much cleaner book.  Efficiency is restored as buyer and seller will only be seeking a deal on real active offers.

Yes, this indeed is a problem, the overlap really got out of hands recently.

pKnowles, I like your suggestion, this could be a good solution. Before implementing this I'd like to think a little more about it, I will post an update soon.
If anyone has a better solution to this problem, please let me know.

I have to say that as a seller I had the same problem with buyers. While I honored the only sell I've been involved in, despite of the price going up during the sale, when the price went down because of the reddit attack I tried to sell MSC sending PM to at least 5 buyers and I got no answer at all... Until 5 days passed and the price went up again - then the sellers replied me if I was still willing to sell 20% below the market price... That's lame. Some rule should apply.
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Really this problem will be only fixed once there is an actual exchange that allows real time trading. As long as we are dealing with people, google docs and escrow, people are only going to respond to your message when it's still in their advantage to buy. Smiley

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December 05, 2013, 05:29:25 AM
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Please remove my sell order 50 MSC at 0.15.

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December 05, 2013, 06:01:15 AM
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This is a dumb idea and will only encourage the creation of an alternate buyer/seller thread without fees.

Stop fragmenting the MSC community. Enough has been done already between the Coloured coins guy, the JR discussion and the change of forum.

Please reconsider.
So why don't you offer to help with the escrow? And keeping order book updated? Let's see how you handle it...

"So why don't you.. blah blah blah" is a terrible and childish way to discuss something.

Read my post and attack my arguments, otherwise your post is worthless.

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December 05, 2013, 06:58:07 AM
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please add: 30MSC for 0.3 per coin (total 9)

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December 05, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
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want to sell: 20MSC for 0.25 per coin (total 5)
                  40MSC for 0.3 per coin (total 12)
please add to order book.


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December 05, 2013, 07:30:00 AM
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please add: 30MSC for 0.3 per coin (total 9)


sell or  buy ? please.....!
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December 05, 2013, 07:53:38 AM
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Order book updated.

Please remove my sell order 50 MSC at 0.15.

Thanks

please add: 30MSC for 0.3 per coin (total 9)



want to sell: 20MSC for 0.25 per coin (total 5)
                  40MSC for 0.3 per coin (total 12)
please add to order book.



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December 05, 2013, 08:52:56 AM
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This is a dumb idea and will only encourage the creation of an alternate buyer/seller thread without fees.
Please reconsider.
It's fine if we have a thread for the no fee people.  But that market will still have the inefficiencies we have today where you must contact 8 people to find one who will genuinely do a transaction at the advertised price. 

Prefunded offers can be accepted without contacting the seller.  This will go very far to reducing transactional friction. 

It has nothing to do with fees.  Fees or no fees, it will work great.  Fees are up to Max and Pouncer.  They have nothing at all to do with improving the system in place.  I just happen to think they are well earned.

Max - When a person asks to place an order on the book, you can create two escrow addresses.  Immediately send one to the guy wanting the offer placed.  The other is published in the table.  First guy to drop asked funds on the published address gets that which is on deposit in the coupled address.  Deal done.

You can start with my order for 200MSC@.1999.  Please send me an escrow address so I can deposit MSC now.  Then, please light up the order in the book with a green colored background to indicate a 'prefunded order' - permitting instant acceptance.

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December 05, 2013, 09:11:53 AM
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Please add:
Want to buy : 10 MSC for 0.15 per coin (Toal 1.5)
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December 05, 2013, 11:48:47 AM
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i still want to buy 50 MSC at 0.14BTC. i am online today.
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December 05, 2013, 11:51:28 AM
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This is a dumb idea and will only encourage the creation of an alternate buyer/seller thread without fees.

Stop fragmenting the MSC community. Enough has been done already between the Coloured coins guy, the JR discussion and the change of forum.

Please reconsider.
So why don't you offer to help with the escrow? And keeping order book updated? Let's see how you handle it...

"So why don't you.. blah blah blah" is a terrible and childish way to discuss something.

Read my post and attack my arguments, otherwise your post is worthless.


Kiss my ass

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December 05, 2013, 11:55:55 AM
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i still want to buy 50 MSC at 0.14BTC. i am online today.
ASSP
my 100 msc order was finished. thanks for pouncer's good job. and i hope that all the traders tip the escrow's job.
cheers
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December 05, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
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Please remove my current sell orders and add this one: I will sell 250 at .15. Please lots of 50 and up, thanks.

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December 05, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
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A little graph with MSC/BTC & MSC/$$$ side by side.

From 16 november (no date on previous trade)

Could be not 100% accurate, time data are not GMT standard


Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone.
it has lots of buttery taste..
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December 05, 2013, 01:41:02 PM
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I wanna buy 50 MSC @ 0.14, update please!
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December 05, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
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December 05, 2013, 02:48:17 PM
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You should do your homework before buying anything. Anyone is free to sell MSC for any price.
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December 05, 2013, 03:18:51 PM
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DGulari, regarding your comment about Pouncer: I want to highlight that he has been of enormous help and put countless hours of his time into this. I never could have handled all the order book entries and escrow requests alone. While I'm sleeping he's working on the order book and escrows – and vice versa.

This is a dumb idea and will only encourage the creation of an alternate buyer/seller thread without fees.

Stop fragmenting the MSC community. Enough has been done already between the Coloured coins guy, the JR discussion and the change of forum.

Please reconsider.
It might spawn another thread, but I don't think this would be bad. Besides, this is an open thread, anyone can still post direct trade offers here.

I'm not happy about introducing fees, but it's a fact that the current state of the order book makes trading really hard for both buyers and sellers. There are lots of outdated and / or fake offers and many people are not honoring their orders. Fees could solve some of these problems. At least it would make people think twice before placing an order.

I think it's obvious that we need a new system but I don't wanna jump the gun on this. Escpecially the "prefunded" option needs some testing before we can go live with this.
Here's a rough outline of the changes I would suggest. Most importantly, there will be 2 different type of listings, standard and prefunded.

Standard order
To prevent bogus orders there will be a flat fee for every placed standard order, 0.005 BTC or 0.01 BTC should be quite the right amount. This fee should hurt a little, but still be affordable. Changes to an existing order are free of charge.
I'm not yet sure about fees for escrowing standard orders, but there might be a 1% fee for this.

Prefunded order
There will be no upfront fee for placing a prefunded order. Sellers send the respective amount of Mastercoins to the escrow address and buyers can purchase Mastercoins directly from me. Changes to an existing prefunded offer are free of charge.
After a completed sale, a 1% fee will be applied to both the MSC and the BTC amount. Should the seller want to cancel a prefunded order and request the Mastercoins back a 1% fee will be taken off the Mastercoin amount.

Note that holding Mastercoins in escrow is quite different from holding Bitcoins in escrow. Bitcoin is well established and by taking certain precautions I can minimize the risk of losing someone's Bitcoins. Mastercoin on the other hand is an evolving protocol and I've already seen a couple of transactions that were open to interpretation. I will of course do my best but I have to stress that I can't take on any responsibility for Mastercoins held in escrow for prefunded orders.


I'm open for your suggestions and comments and would like to give all of the above said some space for discussion before implementing the changes.

But we can start testing the prefunded offers concept right away. DGulari, if you would like to go ahead and create the first prefunded offer, here's your escrow address:
1LdgFp2gLvWfkPnyTYAtH7ENnzgBDdNwfd
Send your Mastercoins there and let me know about your price, I'll then add this to the order book and mark it as a prefunded order.


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December 05, 2013, 03:30:33 PM
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Please add:
Want to buy : 10 MSC for 0.15 per coin (Toal 1.5)
i still want to buy 50 MSC at 0.14BTC. i am online today.
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my 100 msc order was finished. thanks for pouncer's good job. and i hope that all the traders tip the escrow's job.
cheers
Please remove my current sell orders and add this one: I will sell 250 at .15. Please lots of 50 and up, thanks.
I wanna buy 50 MSC @ 0.14, update please!
Order book updated.

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