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May 05, 2014, 09:09:58 PM
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Yes but that post doesn't say when he ordered could have been February.

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May 05, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
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Yes but that post doesn't say when he ordered could have been February.
So what, he hasn't received his product within 30 days and the law says.

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But if he ordered on batch 2 it's 15th of May delivery not March so he needs to say what batch he is not be vague.

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May 05, 2014, 09:31:11 PM
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Yeah, i asked for a refund from minersource, told him i ordered january first, which i did, and it is supposed to be part of the batch 1 orders. I was told it was going to be as there was a snafu with them posting on the sites three days later that orders after 12-31 were going to be batch 2. I just wouldn't have ordered them if it said that on the first, when i placed my orders. It did not, not until the third did that come up. So i was under the impression that i was shipping with batch one. This was discussed back when it happened.

Then why is my refund lumped into batch two. When i sent him two other emails regarding the issues, they went ignored. I was surpised at that because the email shooting down my refund came mighty fast. Also the email i sent about my order and accounts not showing up was dealt with in a timely manner, after the ones for my refund were ignored. Oddly enough though, my refund requests just never made it through  Roll Eyes For btc refunds, do you get back the btc you paid to him? Or do i get back cash value? Either way, i just want a refund. orders 1334, 1343. I will also be emailing again.

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May 06, 2014, 02:37:31 AM
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For the same as an x-3 cost I could have 4Th/s worth of ant miners in hand right now.

Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.

You would have to buy power supplies for all of those Antminers though.  So it's not a real comparison unless you throw that into it.  You're probably closer to 3th which granted you'd have now, but you'd also get 3th (Sort of because you have to pay for the PSU and shipping on that third th) if they shipped on time.  And the BA have a better power to gh ratio so they'd earn you more over time than the antminers.

That said, since you have to apparently pay for the extras on the third TH and we're not sure they will ship on time, you may be better off with the antminers unless they adjust their compensation again.

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May 06, 2014, 04:18:49 AM
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For the same as an x-3 cost I could have 4Th/s worth of ant miners in hand right now.

Thank's for making me look like a total fucking retard who lost all his money on bitcoins. I told you so's all around for me.

You would have to buy power supplies for all of those Antminers though.  So it's not a real comparison unless you throw that into it.  You're probably closer to 3th which granted you'd have now, but you'd also get 3th (Sort of because you have to pay for the PSU and shipping on that third th) if they shipped on time.  And the BA have a better power to gh ratio so they'd earn you more over time than the antminers.

That said, since you have to apparently pay for the extras on the third TH and we're not sure they will ship on time, you may be better off with the antminers unless they adjust their compensation again.

He would've ROI'd with Antminers by now and then some if he had got a bunch of them in Jan/Feb even with power supplies.

BA ROI is never.

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May 06, 2014, 04:44:08 AM
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But if he ordered on batch 2 it's 15th of May delivery not March so he needs to say what batch he is not be vague.


I think the original delivery was end of April for batch 2.  I don't know where this 15th of May date comes from.



http://web.archive.org/web/20140209091048/http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-3.html

"This product will be available on 30 Apr 2014"

"This is a PRE-ORDER (Batch 2), available for dispatch at end of April 2014"



http://web.archive.org/web/20140209130336/https://minersource.net/products/black-arrow-prospero-x-3-2000ghash-slash-second

"THIS IS A PRE-ORDER, NOW ON BATCH 2 ROUND 1, ALL FURTHER ORDERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR DISPATCH APRIL 30TH 2014."




batch 2 is already late, according to that. 


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Note: the preliminary specifications are currently reported by our design tools. They have not yet been proven in a laboratory and might be subject to change, although we do not expect it to vary much.

Group buys: Group buys are not permitted. We will cancel any order that we discover that is a group buy and will refund the payment minus 10% that we will charge for our time wasted in this matter. By placing an order for this item you agree with the above.
This is a PRE-ORDER for Batch 2, available for dispatch around 15/05/2014

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May 06, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
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Sirsmokealot : i have the same problem. I cant get reply to my questions about my refunds. Also i still havent received it since March
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I have ordered in November 2013 on Batch 1. When is shipping? I still waiting a half year. Shipping should be at the end of February 2014.
Those scammers of BA are promising everything and they do nothing.
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May 06, 2014, 12:41:04 PM
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Pic of the Minions posted over at eCoinTalk:

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May 06, 2014, 01:36:05 PM
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Pic of the Minions posted over at eCoinTalk:

http://ecointalk.net/gallery/image/329-black-arrows-minions/

Cool. Good progress!
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May 06, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
Last edit: May 06, 2014, 01:52:03 PM by blackarrow
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The chips have arrived in our laboratory.
 
We are testing them now.





More pictures in the minion gallery.

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May 06, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
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Thanks for the pictures. I guess bobsag3 should be on his way to China now. Have a safe trip.

Probably going to leave tomorrow night/thursday morning, then ~20 hours for me to get there depending on timing.
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Thanks for the pictures. I guess bobsag3 should be on his way to China now. Have a safe trip.

Probably going to leave tomorrow night/thursday morning, then ~20 hours for me to get there depending on timing.

Bon voyage and bring some minions back for us  Grin

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May 06, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
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Those chips sure look purty.  Guess I'll keep my X-1s as a memento to how mining at home used to look, before Spondoolies and Peernova blow the roof off the network hash rate with their offerings.

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May 06, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
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We are pleased to confirm that Black Arrow Minion works.

We are now testing speed and power consumption.

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May 06, 2014, 06:59:31 PM
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We are pleased to confirm that Black Arrow Minion works.

We are now testing speed and power consumption.


Great. So I guess we will get our miners early next week then  Shocked

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We are pleased to confirm that Black Arrow Minion works.

We are now testing speed and power consumption.


Was there a chance that the minions couldn't work  Angry nothing is 100% but really, is this surprising to you guys?

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May 06, 2014, 08:25:17 PM
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Sirsmokealot : i have the same problem. I cant get reply to my questions about my refunds. Also i still havent received it since March

Ya, i am figuring i will email him a few more times. After i continue to get ignored i will just file a complaint with the FTC, if you are stateside i would suggest doing the same if nothing is done. I would like to think if the FTC gets a few complaints from different individuals all having the same issues, that is when they start to look into things.

Will it do anything. I do not know. It is all i can do though, short of throwing a hissy fit and making stupid threats as others have in the past, not about all that though.

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May 06, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
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We are pleased to confirm that Black Arrow Minion works.

We are now testing speed and power consumption.


Was there a chance that the minions couldn't work  Angry nothing is 100% but really, is this surprising to you guys?

LOL I don't think anyone was expecting them to say "Uh, we ran some tests, and the chips don't work.  Back to the drawing board"

Then again... Tongue

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