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May 14, 2014, 11:51:12 AM |
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As I can see that we can forgot about free 5 days of hosting..and for another delay which should be half month(from 8th may to at least 23th may until we get those units)- minimum BA should do for customers is to give us those psu for free because we again lose a lot of potential earning with this last delay and "free hosting"
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y_boonstra
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May 14, 2014, 11:56:27 AM |
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As I can see that we can forgot about free 5 days of hosting..and for another delay which should be half month(from 8th may to at least 23th may until we get those units)- minimum BA should do for customers is to give us those psu for free because we again lose a lot of potential earning with this last delay and "free hosting"
Yep, Another 2 diff jumps.. :S |
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me2014
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May 14, 2014, 12:07:56 PM |
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As I can see that we can forgot about free 5 days of hosting..and for another delay which should be half month(from 8th may to at least 23th may until we get those units)- minimum BA should do for customers is to give us those psu for free because we again lose a lot of potential earning with this last delay and "free hosting"
Yep, Another 2 diff jumps.. :S free psu compared with delay and those jumps is ridiculous but it is something..time is passing and we are losing more and more..those psu are at least they can do :S |
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Dot99lr
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May 14, 2014, 12:14:03 PM |
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Ive got some answers to some of the questions, more to come.
Thanks for your work, Bobsag. |
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sirsmokesalot
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May 14, 2014, 12:25:44 PM |
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The clock ticketh on, and yet no refund from minersource, still.
As was stated, the information is nice, we can see it slowly coming together and materializing, it seems closer now than ever, but now the time frame is lining up and people are realizing they won't be seeing this until, drum roll:
First week in June!
I guess being a month off the second date isn't that bad compared to what has happened with others.
The cost of that power supply shipping though, ouch, i really hope they come up with a solution so their customers aren't screwed into making another 110 dollar purchase from them..
I want my refund though!
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btcminer84
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May 14, 2014, 01:35:06 PM |
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When the power cost of running all those x-3s is greater than the revenue they generate I'm sure they'll be shipping them ASAP.
THIS is it. THIS is the trick of that kind of scam. |
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btcminer84
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May 14, 2014, 01:45:38 PM |
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shipping will ... start this week.
LOL   BTW: They told us that kind of lie within the last week ("Shipping will start next week"). |
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btcminer84
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May 14, 2014, 02:00:45 PM |
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trying to get an ROI some how
It is easier to get a refund than a ROI. |
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May 14, 2014, 02:03:58 PM |
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I asked for a refund for my order nmbr. #9 ... rofl and I haven't got any confirmation so far ... how ever ... sux
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Specialkey
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May 14, 2014, 02:28:35 PM |
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I am a little tired with Black Arrow. First batch had shell be released in March- perfect. Then in May- ok. And now the big  I have a lot of money invested in a hosting contract and I am boared even about the comminication which should be normally presented in updates with email. Ok the ygive me now 50% more Hashingpower minus electrcyty and setup but if BTC will not rise it is getting a minus business for me. Even the long waiting time is not healty. |
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May 14, 2014, 02:30:32 PM |
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I asked for a refund for my order nmbr. #9 ... rofl and I haven't got any confirmation so far ... how ever ... sux
I am close to ask for refund. What a F+ck. Sorry but that had to be spoken out |
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ChuckBuck
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May 14, 2014, 02:55:22 PM |
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Exactly. In all honesty, only shipping 100% compensation, not 50% would be palatable at this point. All we've seen from bobsag3's pics are parts, bare minion chips hashing, and an empty X-3 case. Not even one completely assembled miner. At least with other visits to other Asic manufacturers from other members like Easy2Mine, we see shelves and tons of completed miners ready to go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594728.msg6564579#msg6564579I have no confidence in these guys...but I'm sticking it out. Need my desk ornaments! They make nice conversation pieces. |
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May 14, 2014, 03:39:04 PM |
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I am waiting for a new update and if everything remain same I think we should all request refund..diff is already high enough,for 7 months they are lying to us..how far this goes??
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May 14, 2014, 04:00:16 PM |
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Blackarrow have announced the first units have gone into production should be finished for Monday  BA, how did this turn out or did it even happen? |
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May 14, 2014, 06:10:55 PM |
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Exactly. In all honesty, only shipping 100% compensation, not 50% would be palatable at this point. All we've seen from bobsag3's pics are parts, bare minion chips hashing, and an empty X-3 case. Not even one completely assembled miner. At least with other visits to other Asic manufacturers from other members like Easy2Mine, we see shelves and tons of completed miners ready to go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594728.msg6564579#msg6564579I have no confidence in these guys...but I'm sticking it out. Need my desk ornaments! They make nice conversation pieces. That is what upsets me a lot. The air about this forum lately, i get that people are excited, but we are still a while away from actually having these units in hand. Nothing about the pics from bob's trip was that exciting. No completed hardware, just more pics of things to come. Not even pics of the lcd screens. The super awesome lcds that increase my hash by how much? Oh that is right, fucking nothing! who gives a shit, lcds and touch screens were a big deal with the iphone first came out, no one is impressed by that stupid crap any more. Unless, guys, the entire time, their market has been on the newest types of users into the bitcoin playing field. Those who aren't going to realize they are over paying for a piece of equipment because they don't realize what the competition offers. That they are going to be blinded by all the razzmatazz of the lcd screen! Because the people who had to edit config files and create batch files to run miners are the ones rioting in the streets for lcds.. Yeah it is a nice touch if it doesn't slow down actual production of the units. I have requested a refund from minersource but still have two x-1s ordered through black arrow. I have a feeling requesting a refund from them would get me no where, and it would be confusing as one order was paid for with paypal and the other bitcoin. They decided to drop using paypal after i decided that i wanted to order two instead of one if the shipping would be a bit cheaper. It isn't like there is any mystery of what that hash will get you in btc a day. I have ant miners running, i see what they earn me. It isn't getting to be more and more each day, i promise you that. Then the insulting compensation package that makes you feel obligated to buy a power supply. Or sell the unit, which still consumes my time, And if an s1 is only going for 240+/- atm, how much are you going to be able to get for the compensation unit - shipping cost and seller fees? That is if there are zero issues with the first batch of units they have made. Which some might actually have sub par components (120 boards instead of 200) in them because ya know, whoops. Because that is how you give thanks to the first batch of customers who supported you, by unloading all the useless shit you have purchased upon them. Cool man, really excited to GET HASHING, gnarly! |
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May 14, 2014, 06:16:17 PM |
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Exactly. In all honesty, only shipping 100% compensation, not 50% would be palatable at this point. All we've seen from bobsag3's pics are parts, bare minion chips hashing, and an empty X-3 case. Not even one completely assembled miner. At least with other visits to other Asic manufacturers from other members like Easy2Mine, we see shelves and tons of completed miners ready to go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594728.msg6564579#msg6564579I have no confidence in these guys...but I'm sticking it out. Need my desk ornaments! They make nice conversation pieces. That is what upsets me a lot. The air about this forum lately, i get that people are excited, but we are still a while away from actually having these units in hand. Nothing about the pics from bob's trip was that exciting. No completed hardware, just more pics of things to come. Not even pics of the lcd screens. The super awesome lcds that increase my hash by how much? Oh that is right, fucking nothing! who gives a shit, lcds and touch screens were a big deal with the iphone first came out, no one is impressed by that stupid crap any more. Unless, guys, the entire time, their market has been on the newest types of users into the bitcoin playing field. Those who aren't going to realize they are over paying for a piece of equipment because they don't realize what the competition offers. That they are going to be blinded by all the razzmatazz of the lcd screen! Because the people who had to edit config files and create batch files to run miners are the ones rioting in the streets for lcds.. Yeah it is a nice touch if it doesn't slow down actual production of the units. I have requested a refund from minersource but still have two x-1s ordered through black arrow. I have a feeling requesting a refund from them would get me no where, and it would be confusing as one order was paid for with paypal and the other bitcoin. They decided to drop using paypal after i decided that i wanted to order two instead of one if the shipping would be a bit cheaper. It isn't like there is any mystery of what that hash will get you in btc a day. I have ant miners running, i see what they earn me. It isn't getting to be more and more each day, i promise you that. Then the insulting compensation package that makes you feel obligated to buy a power supply. Or sell the unit, which still consumes my time, And if an s1 is only going for 240+/- atm, how much are you going to be able to get for the compensation unit - shipping cost and seller fees? That is if there are zero issues with the first batch of units they have made. Which some might actually have sub par components (120 boards instead of 200) in them because ya know, whoops. Because that is how you give thanks to the first batch of customers who supported you, by unloading all the useless shit you have purchased upon them. Cool man, really excited to GET HASHING, gnarly! +1 amen to that, specialy the last part |
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me2014
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May 14, 2014, 06:29:12 PM |
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Exactly. In all honesty, only shipping 100% compensation, not 50% would be palatable at this point. All we've seen from bobsag3's pics are parts, bare minion chips hashing, and an empty X-3 case. Not even one completely assembled miner. At least with other visits to other Asic manufacturers from other members like Easy2Mine, we see shelves and tons of completed miners ready to go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594728.msg6564579#msg6564579I have no confidence in these guys...but I'm sticking it out. Need my desk ornaments! They make nice conversation pieces. That is what upsets me a lot. The air about this forum lately, i get that people are excited, but we are still a while away from actually having these units in hand. Nothing about the pics from bob's trip was that exciting. No completed hardware, just more pics of things to come. Not even pics of the lcd screens. The super awesome lcds that increase my hash by how much? Oh that is right, fucking nothing! who gives a shit, lcds and touch screens were a big deal with the iphone first came out, no one is impressed by that stupid crap any more. Unless, guys, the entire time, their market has been on the newest types of users into the bitcoin playing field. Those who aren't going to realize they are over paying for a piece of equipment because they don't realize what the competition offers. That they are going to be blinded by all the razzmatazz of the lcd screen! Because the people who had to edit config files and create batch files to run miners are the ones rioting in the streets for lcds.. Yeah it is a nice touch if it doesn't slow down actual production of the units. I have requested a refund from minersource but still have two x-1s ordered through black arrow. I have a feeling requesting a refund from them would get me no where, and it would be confusing as one order was paid for with paypal and the other bitcoin. They decided to drop using paypal after i decided that i wanted to order two instead of one if the shipping would be a bit cheaper. It isn't like there is any mystery of what that hash will get you in btc a day. I have ant miners running, i see what they earn me. It isn't getting to be more and more each day, i promise you that. Then the insulting compensation package that makes you feel obligated to buy a power supply. Or sell the unit, which still consumes my time, And if an s1 is only going for 240+/- atm, how much are you going to be able to get for the compensation unit - shipping cost and seller fees? That is if there are zero issues with the first batch of units they have made. Which some might actually have sub par components (120 boards instead of 200) in them because ya know, whoops. Because that is how you give thanks to the first batch of customers who supported you, by unloading all the useless shit you have purchased upon them. Cool man, really excited to GET HASHING, gnarly! +1 amen to that, specialy the last part +1 more for last paragraph and specialy last sentence!!! |
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May 14, 2014, 06:34:17 PM |
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Of course everyone is saying, "I think it's fair if you double my order." I'm waiting for you guys to ask for Triple because that would be more, and more works in everyone's favor except BlackArrow. That doesn't mean they are going to do it though.
Before they come on here and say anything about compensation, we need to know when they are going to ship/start hosting. Because compensation / price matching should be based on when they ship. Not to mention some people considering refund requests.
Everyone wants to know one thing...
When are you shipping?
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ChuckBuck
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May 14, 2014, 06:43:06 PM |
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New price for AntMiner S1: 0.468 btc each one, shipping cost included.
EVEN CHEAPER, Look at this BA tell us you aren't changing the compensation. Forget that kingcolex, look at Pistachio's post above for Juan's groupbuy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=608147.msg6715210#msg6715210It makes a mockery of anything BA has to offer, shipping in a little over a week . $1.65 per GH/s. Where's Jimmothy to try make heads or tails out of this one?  |
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