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June 06, 2014, 11:39:39 AM
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June 06, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
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fucking shit update - we seem to be behind than we were last week - Jow many have you shipped BA? 1, 2 ?

As far as I can tell no one on here has had confirmation of shipping and/or has one in their hands. I am order #207 from BA. Does anyone have any order numbers below this and can verify they haven't got one yet.

I would be great to know if anyone independently from BA who can say they have an X1
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June 06, 2014, 11:50:34 AM
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If the problem is noise in the 3.3V line it is easy to test it.

Cut the 3.3V traces going to the pcie conectors in a backplane or if it cant be done due to the layout/multilayer pcb just remove the 3.3V pads in the hashboard and then feed it with clean 3.3V, if you want really clean 3.3V use a 3.3V linear regulator feed with at least 5V and with big filter capacitors at the input and output.

Not the most efficient and likelly not an aceptable solution but the power will be as clean as it can be and you will know for sure if it is worth trying to make a pcb that has lower noise on the 3.3V line or not.

That can be cobled together in less than an hour if you already have the linear regulators. I like this one: http://www.ti.com.cn/cn/lit/ds/symlink/lm1085.pdf .

Although perhaps that is exactly how you came to the idea that the problem is in the 3.3V line.
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June 06, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
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I am having trouble understanding the last update, exactly what is being shipped and when for people that have X1 orders via Minersource?


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June 06, 2014, 01:38:08 PM
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When did you guys actually order this stuff? Spondoolie has an SP30 which is 6TH/s and is $5k. There's no question about their capabilities or if they can deliver, because they already have. I know multiple people that are running SP10's. Did I actually read somewhere in this thread that these were preordered last November?


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June 06, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
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How do you mess up something as trivial as an LCD screen?  

They couldn't hire someone from one of the trillion Coincraft A1 teams to do it for them?  

Friggin' Lightning Asic or Dragon has them.  Bitmain not A1, but they have them on the S2.

Then you have to jerry rig the X-3's with 10 RaspPi's just to get it to work?  How hard is it to get a backplane working?  I still remember the Asicminer Block Erupter Backplane.  Shittiest, ghetto-ist backplane in existence, but you plug in 10 BE blades in the backplane, and you get 100 GH/s no problem.  Crappy as hell, but just works.  And not one phone call was made to Friedcat for even a clue....

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.  Maybe both.

It's either the most elaborate scam teasing release "next week" for the last month since April end, or a tale of not gross but disgusting incompetence.

I gotta applaud this unit.  They're coming close to BFL territory.  Cheers in order!   Cheesy

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June 06, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
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When did you guys actually order this stuff? Spondoolie has an SP30 which is 6TH/s and is $5k. There's no question about their capabilities or if they can deliver, because they already have. I know multiple people that are running SP10's. Did I actually read somewhere in this thread that these were preordered last November?



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June 06, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
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We are using Raspberry Pi instead of our custom designed control board because we have identified an issue with cgminer not working properly with our control board. We have not yet found still where the issue occurs (hardware or software).


This is fucking pathetic. It has become BLATANTLY obvious that BA used the funds from pre-orders to buy that stupid fucking batch of bitfury boards. This shit should not still be happening at this point. It is one problem after the next, which shows that they didn't even begin thinking about shit until the end of April.

My guess is that greed ruined them. They had intentions of making miners, but they had this idea that they could make machines that made a profit if they pushed it back a month or two and delayed starting the project and instead bought miners hoping to increase the total number of bitcoins they had. But OOPS, the price of volatile btc dropped like mad, compound that with a flood of new hardware and it is the perfect shit storm of issues. After that it was a mad dash to save face. They tried to sell off the hardware they bought and continued with their plan.

It is the only logical explanation as to why BA is having such issues while other companies have managed to deliver with no problems.

Or gross fucking incompetence.

1.07 TH/s nets me .03 btc a day, let's do the dirty math fast. .003 for 100 ghs, so it's a year per btc if you get your 1 x-1 now. We all know difficulty is increasing though. Fucking epic failure.

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June 06, 2014, 01:52:20 PM
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order #119 - Sep 26 2013
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June 06, 2014, 01:56:08 PM
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To be fair, the BE blade backplane was only for power and each blade had its own ethernet connection.

It sounds like only power supplies have been shipped at this point, is that right?

That's quite a lot of RPi to control, especially if you've got a farm of these. It should double the long-term value of the miner though since they could be ripped out and reused. Although it almost sounded from one of the updates that the RPi was required but would not be included. Just an SD card.. It would be nice to get a concise update that includes only the information that the majority of people are interested in: When can I expect to get my miner. What do I need to know to get it hashing.

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June 06, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
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I just don't know what to do anymore. I want my miner but I don't want a half cobbled together cocked up solution like the ones they are currently shipping with half of the features working. I paid for a full featured miner and I would like to eventually receive it. I still can't believe it's taken so long to ship and it's become increasingly apparent that work on these units started nowhere near when they said it did.

All in all, a very disappointing venture
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June 06, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
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To be fair, the BE blade backplane was only for power and each blade had its own ethernet connection.

It sounds like only power supplies have been shipped at this point, is that right?

That's quite a lot of RPi to control, especially if you've got a farm of these. It should double the long-term value of the miner though since they could be ripped out and reused. Although it almost sounded from one of the updates that the RPi was required but would not be included. Just an SD card.. It would be nice to get a concise update that includes only the information that the majority of people are interested in: When can I expect to get my miner. What do I need to know to get it hashing.

I did mention ghetto for the BE backplane didn't I.  

Shit, steal someone from the Bitmain team.  10 Rpi's is the sorriest engineering excuse in existence.  Take a page out of the S2 playbook for chrissake:



It's just embarrassing if they're actually trying, and not long conning us.

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June 06, 2014, 02:03:31 PM
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Nov 2013 for me... Processing...


Is it true that they are not accepting return requests anymore? Has anyone had any money come back to a customer successfully from a cancellation?
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June 06, 2014, 02:10:20 PM
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So in the end we are going to get some Frankenstein system 5-6 months late?

Will they even be able to clock the claimed speed when we get it?
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June 06, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
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SOOOOOO glad i went against my greedy instincts of wanting more for less and asked for a refund from minersource even though the idea of the mystery box compensation was over head. You would think Blackarrow was start hosting some fucking units for people who had the hosting option available to them. You know, to show good faith that the units actually wor.. OH that is right.

THEY DON'T EVEN FUCKING WORK YET.

No pride in china i guess? No work ethic? No honor?

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June 06, 2014, 02:33:10 PM
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SOOOOOO glad i went against my greedy instincts of wanting more for less and asked for a refund from minersource even though the idea of the mystery box compensation was over head. You would think Blackarrow was start hosting some fucking units for people who had the hosting option available to them. You know, to show good faith that the units actually wor.. OH that is right.

THEY DON'T EVEN FUCKING WORK YET.

No pride in china i guess? No work ethic? No honor?

If this was Japan, they'd harikari themselves if they'd miss the February deadline.

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June 06, 2014, 02:38:10 PM
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The surprise is a free RPi with every chip.  Grin

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June 06, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
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I can't give more details about the order of that shipping picture I just posted. However it has just left the DHL facility in Shenzhen and arrived at the sorting facility.

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I can't give more details about the order of that shipping picture I just posted. However it has just left the DHL facility in Shenzhen and arrived at the sorting facility.

no no baby, its only picture, it not mean that you ship my order. plz update all order tracking you've shipped.
how many item you've been shipped? 2 or 3 or ...?
how long i have to wait for order#119
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Update on the shipment. (Packing slip posted earlier)
Customs status has been updated. Shipment has been given a release by customs.

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