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When you're an investomer, you don't get to complain. You take your butt plugging like a man/woman.  When all is said and done, it's our risk and money, that funded this project. Root, root, root for the hooooome team. If they don't win, it's a shame....  |
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tempestb
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May 08, 2014, 03:53:11 PM |
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Everyone has a right to feel the way they feel about the varying circumstances.
That said, everyone should wait until BA puts out their Thursday update on what the situation is before jumping into a bitch-fest.
The folks at BA are probably tired and running at top speed to make their deadline, which is today, and they are likely frustrated just as much as everyone here.
Let's give them a chance to evaluate their situation and inform us of the options.
Right now, everyone is basically guessing about what is going on.
Be patient a little longer, and just wait for the update.
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 03:56:32 PM |
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Everyone has a right to feel the way they feel about the varying circumstances.
That said, everyone should wait until BA puts out their Thursday update on what the situation is before jumping into a bitch-fest.
The folks at BA are probably tired and running at top speed to make their deadline, which is today, and they are likely frustrated just as much as everyone here.
Let's give them a chance to evaluate their situation and inform us of the options.
Right now, everyone is basically guessing about what is going on.
Be patient a little longer, and just wait for the update.
That maybe but it's now 23:55 where they are so almost Friday how much longer do we keep giving them ? |
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tempestb
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May 08, 2014, 04:09:43 PM |
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That maybe but it's now 23:55 where they are so almost Friday how much longer do we keep giving them ?
They generally update late in the day (my day), so sometime in the next six to eight hours. Complaining probably won't matter anyway since they are likely buried in other things and not looking at these message threads. Go get yourself a delicious drink, make a nice lunch, have a nap, read a good book, take a walk outside, find your inner zen. Then return and we'll see what we see. Just suggestions... At this point it's all guessing until they tell us what is going on. So don't get upset. Catch up on a show or spend time with a loved one. |
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 04:15:05 PM |
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That maybe but it's now 23:55 where they are so almost Friday how much longer do we keep giving them ?
They generally update late in the day (my day), so sometime in the next six to eight hours. Complaining probably won't matter anyway since they are likely buried in other things and not looking at these message threads. Go get yourself a delicious drink, make a nice lunch, have a nap, read a good book, take a walk outside, find your inner zen. Then return and we'll see what we see. Just suggestions... At this point it's all guessing until they tell us what is going on. So don't get upset. Catch up on a show or spend time with a loved one. Already gone through all the Jd in the house  maybe some Prozac next then. |
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May 08, 2014, 05:18:09 PM |
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I purchased the additional X3 PSU right now and hope that they ship the X3 (3 TH/s including all 3 PSUs). But when they ship it. When?  ? |
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OgNasty
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May 08, 2014, 05:48:41 PM |
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Late -> Check
Underperforming Hardware -> Check
Overpriced PSU to pay for -> Check
PSUs leaking power -> Check
No longer offering hosting compensation and forcing additional subpar miners on customers -> Check
Offering <50% refunds -> Check
I too would rather have seen the original hosting package instead of receiving underperforming miners with no power supplies and having to deal with reselling them. This compensation is quickly turning into a punishment with nothing but bad news coming from BA.
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sirsmokesalot
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May 08, 2014, 06:15:59 PM |
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Late -> Check
Underperforming Hardware -> Check
Overpriced PSU to pay for -> Check
PSUs leaking power -> Check
No longer offering hosting compensation and forcing additional subpar miners on customers -> Check
Offering <50% refunds -> Check
I too would rather have seen the original hosting package instead of receiving underperforming miners with no power supplies and having to deal with reselling them. This compensation is quickly turning into a punishment with nothing but bad news coming from BA.
Yeah, the more i think about it the more it really seems that by crunching the power costs, more so now with the news of the actual consumption hitting, they got smart and decided to dump the things onto their loyal customers, calling it a perk. That being said, if the price of bitcoin sky rockets into the 10k range then even these machines could be worth something.... |
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May 08, 2014, 06:44:47 PM |
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10k...)))
In the future, 100 or less ...
Then buyers equipment weep ..
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 07:04:22 PM |
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10k...)))
In the future, 100 or less ...
Then buyers equipment weep ..
A wild Troll with terrible English has appeared! Kingcolex sent out Pidgey. Pidgey used whirlwind! The Troll has fled from battle! me thinks you played a bit of D&D in your youth. |
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May 08, 2014, 07:08:56 PM |
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10k...)))
In the future, 100 or less ...
Then buyers equipment weep ..
A wild Troll with terrible English has appeared! Kingcolex sent out Pidgey. Pidgey used whirlwind! The Troll has fled from battle! me thinks you played a bit of D&D in your youth. Pokemon...  |
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 07:13:31 PM |
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Ah pokemon never got into that lol
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btcminer84
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May 08, 2014, 07:13:43 PM |
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The gif is disgusting. I got a seizure from it.
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 08:15:51 PM |
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The 3 weeks item is a worry.
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tempestb
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May 08, 2014, 08:21:26 PM |
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Well since the LCD's aren't in until tomorrow (maybe) we can assume shipping isn't happening today. I'm a bit confused, if the power supplies showed up than what is the inductor for? Is it just for the test board or are all the PSU's bad? And if so, then I imagine shipping will be delayed until all the inductors are replaced. So +/- another week to ship. That's my guess.
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May 08, 2014, 08:44:53 PM |
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Love me some pokemon, btw still no update? It is getting a bit past the usual time.
From their forums, david said an update would be coming in the next couple of hours. edit Bitcoin Miners progress update – 09 May 2014
1. The Minion has arrived.
a. Has been tested at 120Ghash. The power measured at the wall was 150Watt. This includes the 8% loss of the PSU and currently 20% on the DC/DC converter. This translates on 0.92W/Ghash at the chip level. We have asked the ASIC designers to come to our office to study how to further improve the power efficiency.
b. The expected loss on the DC/DC should be around 10%. We have identified We identified that part of the power used is lost by the inductor. A new customised inductor is scheduled to arrive in one week.
b. We decided to write a software application which will produce a full report to include details on voltage, speed and efficiency at all ranges. Estimated time to completion is up to 3 weeks but this additional feature will not affect the shipping schedule.
c. We believe that further overclocking is available, further tests are scheduled after we complete the assembly of the 200A board tomorrow.
2. All Minion orders have been shipped today.
3. Most of the X3 and X1 PSUs have been delivered are now in stock.
4. The majority of the heatsinks have been manufactured.
5. The first lot of X3 cases has been received. (Aluminium alloy)
6. The control board assembly has just been completed. This is behind schedule and we are not confident at this stage that we can write the LCD driver in useful time for first shipments. If this is the case we will release firmware updates to enable the LCD functionality.
7. The first batch of LCDs was delayed 1 day and is now due to arrive tomorrow. So no units have been built yet, I would be surprised if they have any real shipment before June, I think I got my BFL gear last year faster than that! |
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ChuckBuck
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May 08, 2014, 08:45:25 PM |
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If we receive these miners by July 4th weekend, it'll be a pleasant surprise.  Thank God we all wanted those fancy touch screen LCD displays that potentially cut into the compensation packages. These guys are so dreamy for thinking of us.... |
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sorehammer
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May 08, 2014, 09:09:02 PM |
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The update seems to have been updated.
Bitcoin Miners progress update – 09 May 2014
1. The Minion has arrived.
a. Has been tested at 120Ghash. The power measured at the wall was 150Watt. This includes the 8% loss of the PSU and currently 20% on the DC/DC converter. This translates on 0.92W/Ghash at the chip level. We have asked the ASIC designers to come to our office to study how to further improve the power efficiency.
b. The expected loss on the DC/DC should be around 10%. We have identified We identified that part of the power used is lost by the inductor. A new customised inductor is scheduled to arrive in one week.
b. We decided to write a software application which will produce a full report to include details on voltage, speed and efficiency at all ranges. Estimated time to completion is up to 3 weeks but this additional feature will not affect the shipping schedule.
c. We believe that further overclocking is available, further tests are scheduled after we complete the assembly of the 200A board tomorrow.
2. All Minion orders have been shipped today.
3. Most of the X3 and X1 PSUs have been delivered are now in stock.
4. The majority of the heatsinks have been manufactured.
5. The first lot of X3 cases has been received. (Aluminium alloy)
6. The control board assembly has just been completed. This is behind schedule and we are not confident at this stage that we can write the LCD driver in useful time for first shipments. If this is the case we will release firmware updates to enable the LCD functionality.
7. The first batch of LCDs was delayed 1 day and is now due to arrive tomorrow.
8. Unfortunately we have been told that the X1 case will not be delivered in time. If the X1 miners will not be ready at the same time with our X3 miners we made a contingency plan to start hashing with our own X3 units for our X1 customers affected by this delay. Bitcoins mined on their behalf will be transferred accordingly. Full details will be announced directly to customers, therefore please do not flood our customer support with tickets regarding on how to receive Bitcoins.
9. Our main PCB assembly factory failed to initiate the assembly 2 days ago as scheduled. We were forced to switch the assembly production with another local factory which is now scheduled to start the assembly tomorrow.
10. X3s are scheduled to start shipping early next week.
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May 08, 2014, 09:10:43 PM |
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At least one good thing as come of this, BFL, Hashfast etc. a lot of people will never pay for miners on pre-order again.
Just look at how many law suits are going on atm with ASIC manufactures, it's an epidemic, all based around taking monies on pre-orders then failing to deliver as promised.
At least there are a few brands like Antminer, Gridseed etc. that still have some honor.
I will be glad when this is over, so I can walk away from the pre-order brands altogether, never again! (Yes I am angry)
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