HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive

[Mike Hunt]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

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[Threeqwsa]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

Thanks!

[NDW467]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

I was actually just throwing out an idea for Tranz to consider.

[Threeqwsa]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

[Mike Hunt]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

Unzip it and put the contents of the unzipped folder in the HoboNickels folder inside appdata\Roaming, Appdata is a folder that's hidden by default in windows. To see it you have to go to appearance and personalisation in the windows settings,  select folder options, then select "show hidden files, folder or drives".

You can find your HoboNickels folder in appdata at

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\HoboNickels

where <your username> is your windows username.

[Threeqwsa]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

Unzip it and put the contents of the unzipped folder in the HoboNickels folder inside appdata\Roaming, Appdata is a folder that's hidden by default in windows. To see it you have to go to appearance and personalisation in the windows settings,  select folder options, then select "show hidden files, folder or drives".

You can find your HoboNickels folder in appdata at

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\HoboNickels

where <your username> is your windows username.

Thank you Mike.  I'm really getting frustrated.  After downloading your link and inserting zip file into appdata/roaming it won't unzip...says zip file is invalid.  So right now I can't synchronize the blockchain via wallet and cant open downloaded zip file.  Grrrr.  Need help.  Thank you.

[bitmaster1x]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

HYP does a pretty good job for what you're looking for memory and cpu as well as resolves the S4C issue. I also mention some general issues most crypto wallets have in the last few pages of the thread. Have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.6360

[mrbodz]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

GenStake is another PoS/PoW coin that runs much less CPU and memory than HBN.  2GiveCoin runs with very little resources but is much differently structured kind of PoS/PoW coin.  Hyperstake and Truckcoin are also lower in memory and CPU use but do not use PoW. (Truckcoin runs higher on CPU use) The GreenCoin daemon runs with very little CPU and memory use but is also PoS only.

However greencoin has problems of its own which i need to take care of when i get time. Its based on the old blackcoin. Likely going to be upgraded to the new blackcoin base when i have some time. The main issue with it is that peer discovery isnt working (may be due to faulty seed nodes) and the blockchain sync stalls at certain blocks

Ahmed

[Tranz]

Build an exchange into the wallet to use with various coins.

A person downloads the relevant chains then the wallet has a tab where you can offer x number hbn for y number other coin, offer good for 20 blocks etc. It would let a person learn arbitrage with less risk. Arbitrage at a low level is going to start becoming important as coins gain more merchants etc.

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Long term, make a blockchain update something like Pascalcoin that consolidates the chain every few years into a lockbox that has all the info but is smaller. So maybe every jan 1st the chain is reduced to a list of all balances plus a hash of that list. Maybe have only certain nodes download the whole chain, but newbies can download just a few mb.

I have considered this. It is possible but the amount of work involved would be huge. Also the amount of resources needed to run it on your computer would also be huge.  If I had a team of 5 40 hour a week developers, it would still take 6 to 12 months easy.

So what I am saying is probably not.   

[Tranz]

GenStake is another PoS/PoW coin that runs much less CPU and memory than HBN.  2GiveCoin runs with very little resources but is much differently structured kind of PoS/PoW coin.  Hyperstake and Truckcoin are also lower in memory and CPU use but do not use PoW. (Truckcoin runs higher on CPU use) The GreenCoin daemon runs with very little CPU and memory use but is also PoS only.

CPU will be solved, so take that out of the equation.

But with memory, you have to compare apples to apples. We are at block 5.2 million. What are those coins at? When HBN was only at block 1 mill, it used a reasonable 300megs. More blocks, more memory.

Run a spread sheet on Memory vs number of blocks, and tell me which is the lowest.  We can go from there.

[Tranz]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

This is already part of the code. It simply require active wallets staking. As the staking difficulty goes up the reward goes down.  We could tighten it, but a hard fork is my last thing I want to do.

[Tranz]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

HYP does a pretty good job for what you're looking for memory and cpu as well as resolves the S4C issue. I also mention some general issues most crypto wallets have in the last few pages of the thread. Have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.6360

Yes I know HYP well. Again look at # of blocks vs amt of memory used. The ratio is still close.

I authored S4C originally I know what it can and can't do.  I am just not sure what it should do yet..

[Tranz]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

Unzip it and put the contents of the unzipped folder in the HoboNickels folder inside appdata\Roaming, Appdata is a folder that's hidden by default in windows. To see it you have to go to appearance and personalisation in the windows settings,  select folder options, then select "show hidden files, folder or drives".

You can find your HoboNickels folder in appdata at

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\HoboNickels

where <your username> is your windows username.

Thank you Mike.  I'm really getting frustrated.  After downloading your link and inserting zip file into appdata/roaming it won't unzip...says zip file is invalid.  So right now I can't synchronize the blockchain via wallet and cant open downloaded zip file.  Grrrr.  Need help.  Thank you.

Do you have peers? use the peer connections from crytopia coin info page and in the debug window console type

Code:

addnode IP add

[Tranz]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

GenStake is another PoS/PoW coin that runs much less CPU and memory than HBN.  2GiveCoin runs with very little resources but is much differently structured kind of PoS/PoW coin.  Hyperstake and Truckcoin are also lower in memory and CPU use but do not use PoW. (Truckcoin runs higher on CPU use) The GreenCoin daemon runs with very little CPU and memory use but is also PoS only.

However greencoin has problems of its own which i need to take care of when i get time. Its based on the old blackcoin. Likely going to be upgraded to the new blackcoin base when i have some time. The main issue with it is that peer discovery isnt working (may be due to faulty seed nodes) and the blockchain sync stalls at certain blocks

Ahmed

Hi Ahmed, good to see you still around.  Hopefully I can keep you busy with a few pull requests in the next few months.. hehe.

[bitmaster1x]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

HYP does a pretty good job for what you're looking for memory and cpu as well as resolves the S4C issue. I also mention some general issues most crypto wallets have in the last few pages of the thread. Have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.6360

Yes I know HYP well. Again look at # of blocks vs amt of memory used. The ratio is still close.

I authored S4C originally I know what it can and can't do.  I am just not sure what it should do yet..

That's great to know. Here is the post I was talking about. Not sure if it's exactly what your're looking for, but it might help (the last paragraph): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg19160392#msg19160392

[vancefox]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

[Tranz]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

[vancefox]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

Not that I've seen...

I'm thinking the only way to get the memory usage down is to decrease the number of blocks... or use compression...  either way it's hard because the blockchain needs to be from #0 to current... I'm really thinking a new genesis block like compression where all current balances get fed into block #0...  call me crazy...

[Threeqwsa]

Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

Unzip it and put the contents of the unzipped folder in the HoboNickels folder inside appdata\Roaming, Appdata is a folder that's hidden by default in windows. To see it you have to go to appearance and personalisation in the windows settings,  select folder options, then select "show hidden files, folder or drives".

You can find your HoboNickels folder in appdata at

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\HoboNickels

where <your username> is your windows username.

Thank you Mike.  I'm really getting frustrated.  After downloading your link and inserting zip file into appdata/roaming it won't unzip...says zip file is invalid.  So right now I can't synchronize the blockchain via wallet and cant open downloaded zip file.  Grrrr.  Need help.  Thank you.

Do you have peers? use the peer connections from crytopia coin info page and in the debug window console type

Code:

addnode IP add

Ok, that got it moving.  Thank you Tranz!!!

[panpine]

Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?

For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

Is it really neccessary to keep all the blocks in the memory? What can be done about the lag after each block ? (fairglu observed when uploading chain on explorer , and I think same lagging in the wallet / might be the case of wallet with thousands of blocks..)