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January 02, 2022, 01:14:55 AM
Last edit: January 02, 2022, 07:58:28 AM by TheQuin
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The "earn btc" page doesn't show any interest payments after 12/27.  Maybe just a display bug.  I wasn't checking my balance while I was out of town for the holidays.

EDIT:
There's an old display bug on the expired bets page where it will show zero winnings on resolved bets that you won.  A few hours later it shows the actual number.  But the balance updates correctly in real time (so I get paid before it shows me how much I was paid).

Both of these aren't bugs, it's just caching. Sometimes you need to do a hard refresh for the EARN BTC page to update. The betting page cache is updated hourly but your balance is real time.


EDIT 2:
I've been using the site for interest on hodling 15 BTC, and the parimutuel sportsbetting.  I just read the last 30 pages of this thread and it seems weird that most of the thread is this public flame war between customer service and botters who had their accounts confiscated based on secret evidence.  
I used to be a software engineer Google and another online advertising company in LA and at the latter I was in charge of blocking bots that would click on our ads.  It's hard.  There were lots of false positives and false negatives.

That's one of the reasons I implemented a system that only sends withdrawal requests to be manually reviewed rather than simply banning accounts. I need to look at all the evidence and only ban when I'm 100% certain of abuse.

Much respect to the people who do this for a living.  But there has to be a better way of doing it that doesn't spam the thread with flame wars about confiscated accounts.

Other faucet services simply decided to abandon the forum and lock their threads. There's no way to stop angry thieves spamming. It's just a choice of answering them or ignoring them.

Maybe you can just preemptively block signups from all the IPs of known proxies/VPNs/datacenters and block signups from duplicate IPs. (modulo the edge case where hundreds of distinct mobile devices often share the same IP -- gotta figure out which IP blocks belong to mobile ISPs that do that).  But anyway if you prevent signups by IP you'll have a lot less work to do for banning bots and probably also reduce the risk of false positives from people who were innocently using an open proxy or whatever.    Another quick and dirty idea is to rate limit free btc claims per /24 or /16 IP block.  Are you guys hiring?

We.ve tried all these things before but all it achieves is telling the botters immediately what they have to do to get away with it. Block certain VPNs and they just find other ones to use. Block them for doing 17 rolls every day and they just do 16 from more accounts. The way to combat them is to use a shadowbanning system. The accounts get flagged as bad but because they don't know that they spend months getting enough to withdraw.  Then when they get banned they have to guess what they did wrong and spend months trying again before they can find out if they were right. Blocking them immediately makes it too easy for them to experiment.

The objective is to reduce losses due to theft. If that results in the noise level here going up a bit because they are frustrated at losing so much time and effort then so be it.


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January 02, 2022, 09:36:37 AM
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 Huh

Hi. Happy new year.
I will not be able to log in to my account from December 29th.

Would you please investigate what is happening?
Also, can you return just the amount you deposited?

It is my UserID 39786681.
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January 02, 2022, 01:49:31 PM
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Hey another Newbie i really like your writing skill
I've been using the site for interest on hodling 15 BTC, and the parimutuel sportsbetting.  I just read the last 30 pages of this thread and it seems weird that most of the thread is this public flame war between customer service and botters who had their accounts confiscated based on secret evidence.  
I used to be a software engineer Google and another online advertising company in LA and at the latter I was in charge of blocking bots that would click on our ads.  It's hard.  There were lots of false positives and false negatives.  Much respect to the people who do this for a living.  But there has to be a better way of doing it that doesn't spam the thread with flame wars about confiscated accounts.   Maybe you can just preemptively block signups from all the IPs of known proxies/VPNs/datacenters and block signups from duplicate IPs. (modulo the edge case where hundreds of distinct mobile devices often share the same IP -- gotta figure out which IP blocks belong to mobile ISPs that do that).  But anyway if you prevent signups by IP you'll have a lot less work to do for banning bots and probably also reduce the risk of false positives from people who were innocently using an open proxy or whatever.    Another quick and dirty idea is to rate limit free btc claims per /24 or /16 IP block.  Are you guys hiring?

"Lol third dead account" came here to defend these thieves as soon as they were exposed XD looks like a lot of accounts are already being made. very creative :}
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January 03, 2022, 12:16:02 AM
Last edit: January 03, 2022, 01:31:58 AM by TheQuin
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Huh

Hi. Happy new year.
I will not be able to log in to my account from December 29th.

Would you please investigate what is happening?
Also, can you return just the amount you deposited?

It is my UserID 39786681.

It was banned along with 21 of your other accounts.

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TERMS OF SERVICE

Please abide by the following simple rules when using this website:

1. Please do not use bots.
2. Please be civil when contacting us and refrain from using strong language.
3. Please do not try to abuse the free giveaway by creating multiple accounts and collecting the free prize more than once every hour using proxies or similar IP address changing applications/services.

If you are found to be breaking any of the above rules or trying to gain an unfair advantage to abuse the service, your account will be deleted and your account balance forfeited.

Nothing will be returned because you forfeited it by trying to cheat and steal from us.



"Lol third dead account" came here to defend these thieves as soon as they were exposed XD looks like a lot of accounts are already being made. very creative :}

Lol. Gormless twat hasn't got any comeback to my explanation of why he is wrong and just repeats his dumbass claims.

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January 03, 2022, 11:10:51 AM
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Hello TheQuin

I lost access to my freebitco.in account.
I sent you a message via the board.
Please help!
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January 04, 2022, 07:14:07 AM
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Good day to all of you!

We look forward to your understanding and humanity.

I look forward to you going away and not abusing our free giveaways again.
“Go away” sounds much more polite than yours «fuck off» for many times in our private discussions. Now it does not matter, since you have blocked my personal messages.
Tell us, please, what would be the fact of my activities showing that your Terms of Service been accepted by us? Where is that checkbox we have clicked or button we pressed and accepted your TOS?
We increase the balance in order to get to unlock privileges, but we did not pay for that. It was like a bank deposit. Therefore, these funds are not yours and you can't take it.
It seems like you are searching for suspicious accounts that MAY break your rules and after a while ban it. Just based on your suspicions and not presenting facts whatsoever. No warnings were ever given. Users can continue working and investing in your site and then, at some point, you decide to ban account and expropriate funds. Very convenient, don’t you think, people.
I am interested, what is the reason of 2FA implementation, since admins can expropriate funds, you have invested and earned at anytime, just because they got suspicious. No proof has been provided ever, just empty words.

Just be advised that if you would not return our invested funds of 0.13333927BTC, then:
- if our neighbour dies from cancer, it will be your fault;
- we reserve the right to describe the situation in all colours on various social networks, in order to warn other naive users from investing in your site and losing funds after all, as well as to withdrawing their funds ASAP.
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January 05, 2022, 02:08:19 AM
Last edit: January 05, 2022, 02:38:48 AM by TheQuin
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Hello TheQuin

I lost access to my freebitco.in account.
I sent you a message via the board.
Please help!

I'm happy you managed to regain access to your email account and therefore your freebitco.in account.



Good day to all of you!

We look forward to your understanding and humanity.

I look forward to you going away and not abusing our free giveaways again.
“Go away” sounds much more polite than yours «fuck off» for many times in our private discussions.

That's how I talk to people I catch trying to steal from me.

Now it does not matter, since you have blocked my personal messages.

I have told you everything you need to know. The conversation is over.

Tell us, please, what would be the fact of my activities showing that your Terms of Service been accepted by us? Where is that checkbox we have clicked or button we pressed and accepted your TOS?

You implicitly agreed to them by using the service.

We increase the balance in order to get to unlock privileges, but we did not pay for that. It was like a bank deposit. Therefore, these funds are not yours and you can't take it.

That's illogical. You deposited in order to make multi-accounting and stealing from the free giveaway easier.

It seems like you are searching for suspicious accounts that MAY break your rules and after a while ban it. Just based on your suspicions and not presenting facts whatsoever. No warnings were ever given. Users can continue working and investing in your site and then, at some point, you decide to ban account and expropriate funds. Very convenient, don’t you think, people.

Of course, I'm hunting out the cheats and thieves every day. When you give away free money there is no end of low-life scum who will try to take more than one person is entitled to. The whole business depends on the fact that a certain percentage of people who come to take the free money we give them will turn into paying gamblers. They fund the whole thing for everyone else. If I didn't weed out the thieves like you taking 14 times what an honest person takes the site couldn't work.

I am interested, what is the reason of 2FA implementation, since admins can expropriate funds, you have invested and earned at anytime, just because they got suspicious. No proof has been provided ever, just empty words.

They were not empty words. I fully explained that I need verifiable proof of ownership of an account before I can circumvent the security measures the original owner put in place.

Just be advised that if you would not return our invested funds of 0.13333927BTC, then:
- if our neighbour dies from cancer, it will be your fault;

Maybe you could have helped your neighbour if you had just taken what we give one person for free rather than being greedy and trying to 14x it?

- we reserve the right to describe the situation in all colours on various social networks, in order to warn other naive users from investing in your site and losing funds after all, as well as to withdrawing their funds ASAP.

That's a very poor attempt at blackmail. It won't work because I'm actually really happy every time someone who tries to steal from us publicises that they got caught. Seeing the consequences of that will make other people think twice before trying the same thing. If I refunded failed thieves their deposits there would be no deterrent to stop ever-larger hoards if thieves coming.

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January 06, 2022, 04:44:31 PM
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There were many changes last year.

I think it's good how FreeBitco.in is developing and I'm looking forward to more innovations.
Keep up the good work and you will always get my support.
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January 07, 2022, 04:41:51 AM
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Any news for new deposit network?
Old BTC network have high fees for transferring btc from exchanges to your website.could you implant lighting network to your website?
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January 07, 2022, 07:25:49 AM
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Any news for new deposit network?
Old BTC network have high fees for transferring btc from exchanges to your website.could you implant lighting network to your website?

Actually, Bitcoin fees have been very low compared to what happened 4 years ago in the last bull market. It is very rare that you have to wait more than a day to get a 1 Sat/Byte transaction confirmed. https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,30d,weight
They are also a lot lower than ETH Gas fees. The problem is usually the exchanges charging a set high fee regardless of network conditions. It's best to avoid such services.


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January 07, 2022, 04:42:46 PM
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1. Why is the WOF spin provably fair? If I play Multiply BTC: Before the roll happen, I can see the hash of the next server seed, so it cant be changed secretly. I can also see my own client seed and can change it manually before the roll. I understand the meaning of provably fair at this game. But at the WOF spin, I cant change the client seed before the spin. It also seems that the spin happen shortly after solving the captcha. If I leave the WOF site without pressing the spin button, the WOF spin is nonetheless recorded in the history with a time stamp some seconds ago. (See roll history in Multiply BTC) ->You should give me a chance to see the server seed hash before the spin happen and let me change my client seed manually.

2. The last months I lost track of the website, I didnt read the promotion emails or in this thread. Did you change the payout interval of the WoF spin? A year ago I calculated the probabilities myself: Link
But now, the new payout probabilities are: Link
Especially: The ~5000 Satoshis price probability dropped from 1.327% to 0.1%. (I know: Nowadays you get less than 5k, depending on the BTC-$ ratio)

3. There is no problem to use this website as a cheap BTC mixer? If I buy BTC with Euros, I have to reveal my real data. I deposit some of the BTC on this website and retrieve another BTC amount some month later back. It should be very hard for a foreign person to make a connection between both transactions. Right? (I mean little amounts like ~100 Eur.)
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January 08, 2022, 12:05:50 AM
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. i can not comment on yours official facdebook s   page, because i was blocked .. for any reason.. its no problem..
but, the worst is,
the ' freebitco' fakes facebook pages accounts can comment and comment yours scam comments...
every time, freebitco.s  fake accounts are commenting in official freebitco in facebook's page...  >>>   
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January 08, 2022, 12:10:40 AM
Last edit: January 08, 2022, 03:39:02 AM by TheQuin
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1. Why is the WOF spin provably fair? If I play Multiply BTC: Before the roll happen, I can see the hash of the next server seed, so it cant be changed secretly. I can also see my own client seed and can change it manually before the roll. I understand the meaning of provably fair at this game. But at the WOF spin, I cant change the client seed before the spin. It also seems that the spin happen shortly after solving the captcha. If I leave the WOF site without pressing the spin button, the WOF spin is nonetheless recorded in the history with a time stamp some seconds ago. (See roll history in Multiply BTC) ->You should give me a chance to see the server seed hash before the spin happen and let me change my client seed manually.

That's incorrect. You can click the provably fair link and change the client seed on a WoF spin in exactly the same way as a dice roll. You have to do it before you solve captcha because that's when the spin occurs, clicking the spin button just displays the result.

2. The last months I lost track of the website, I didnt read the promotion emails or in this thread. Did you change the payout interval of the WoF spin? A year ago I calculated the probabilities myself: Link
But now, the new payout probabilities are: Link
Especially: The ~5000 Satoshis price probability dropped from 1.327% to 0.1%. (I know: Nowadays you get less than 5k, depending on the BTC-$ ratio)

Yes. That was extensively discussed here on the forum at the time. The price of BTC increased drastically after we introduced WoF before we linked prized to USD so it's part of bringing the cost back to what was intended.

3. There is no problem to use this website as a cheap BTC mixer? If I buy BTC with Euros, I have to reveal my real data. I deposit some of the BTC on this website and retrieve another BTC amount some month later back. It should be very hard for a foreign person to make a connection between both transactions. Right? (I mean little amounts like ~100 Eur.)

We are a faucet and casino so it isn't intended to be used for other purposes. A real mixer will not keep records of your transactions.



i can not comment on yours official facdebook s   page, because i was blocked .. for any reason.. its no problem..

I thought we had already covered this, it's probably some algorithm that blocks referral link spam.

but, the worst is,
the ' freebitco' fakes facebook pages accounts can comment and comment yours scam comments...

Yeah. Facebook sucks, I stopped using it about 15 years ago. I already told you that I don't have anything to do with running the social media pages. AFAIK the PR agency uses them for putting announcements/adverts out. It's probably all automated through an API. If there was an option to disable replies I'd guess they would use it. There's nobody there to read them.


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i can not comment on yours official facdebook s   page, because i was blocked .. for any reason.. its no problem..
I thought we had already covered this, ...
but, the worst is,
the ' freebitco' fakes facebook pages accounts can comment and comment yours scam comments...

Yeah. Facebook sucks, I stopped using it about 15 years ago. I already told you that I don't have anything to do with running the social media pages. AFAIK the PR agency uses them for putting announcements/adverts out. It's probably all automated through an API. If there was an option to disable replies I'd guess they would use it. There's nobody there to read them.

 
 > I'm just telling you that fake freebitco pages comment, and a lot of people fall for these scams..
I don't want to comment anything there... I'm just saying that I'm blocked there,
 but I'm not asking you to unblock me, I just want you show that,
despite not being able to do anything about it, or being difficult to do, these fake pages of your site can compromise the real page and the site, because people soon think they are scam... people using your name,  ..because people go to read it, but they could have a lot more followers there if there weren't these fake pages... I just found out which one is the real one with the link on your website home and since then I've discovered that I'm blocked there, and now I can tell which are the fake ones..., and some fake ones have as many followers as the real one... so I'm just showing you that fake pages might not be good for you, but what can you do:?? report?? It never works..... I go there to copy the pposts and be able to share with my referral link..., but again, thank you very much, don't get me wrong, I'm not causing any problems, I'm sorry for something.. lha for this comparison of a fake page and a real page.. and when you search there, the real page does not appear in the results....   and yes, face is a big such, but  i use to anythings,  how like share my refer link... and messages...but is no good place, them use to wash the brain of persons there  ..  

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#edit>  yes, there is an option to disable comments, and it would be a good option to avoid scam comments
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.but i dont know over fake pages/accounts....need lot people reporting, i think.
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Yeah. Facebook sucks, I stopped using it about 15 years ago. I already told you that I don't have anything to do with running the social media pages. AFAIK the PR agency uses them for putting announcements/adverts out. It's probably all automated through an API. If there was an option to disable replies I'd guess they would use it. There's nobody there to read them.

Facebook is just full of scam and spam.
And it feels like nothing is being done about it...

For something like this you can only have a separate department that takes care of such scams and spams.
In the end it can also cast a bad light on the real company if people are scammed by fakes or are provided with false information.

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January 09, 2022, 05:36:18 PM
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Facebook is just full of scam and spam.
And it feels like nothing is being done about it...

For something like this you can only have a separate department that takes care of such scams and spams.
In the end it can also cast a bad light on the real company if people are scammed by fakes or are provided with false information.
It is how social media works. Two years ago, Facebook implemented new policies which cause to massive bans on many farm accounts. They required more steps to create a valid account for using. It is their efforts to eliminate farm accounts but it is not enough.

Spam is still there and on Facebook, you can see many bot messages to shill projects or to attack other projects. Scam is another issue that they can not control. They have features for page admins to hide scam messages, delete or report such ones.

However, people should prepare enough knowledge, read more, being more careful when they are on social media. In the end, they have to protect themselves from scammers, not Facebook, not any forum, not any social media platform, not any chat platform.

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January 09, 2022, 07:33:14 PM
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However, people should prepare enough knowledge, read more, being more careful when they are on <...>. In the end, they have to protect themselves from scammers,<..>.

It's true what you said, but in this case, it undermines the true.

...I teach many people who don't know the site and I don't know them,
I see that they are the simple majority and
 don't understand very well about email and internet security,
..can you imagine the scammers taking advantage of these people?
 either they fall for scams and or they lose interest in meeting the original
because they met something that is not the real thing,
so she thinks she already met.. just an example..



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January 10, 2022, 12:49:12 AM
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Facebook is just full of scam and spam.
And it feels like nothing is being done about it...

You can report pages and occasionally they get taken down but the scammers just open a new one.

However, people should prepare enough knowledge, read more, being more careful when they are on social media. In the end, they have to protect themselves from scammers, not Facebook, not any forum, not any social media platform, not any chat platform.

That's the bottom line. Everyone is responsible for protecting themselves.

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The Quin is right: For the free Spins from the promotion email is the client seed editable if you do it before solving the Captcha, though its a little unintuitive. But what about the Spins you get via Reward Points, where can I set my own client seed? (If I do the Spins One-By-One.)

The owners of Freebitco.in are watching their privacy. Can you reveal which legal system you obey beside Costa Rica?
This Whois Service says for Freebitco.in:
Registrant State/Province: San Jose
Registrant Country: CR
I'm guessing Costa Rica is a letterbox company address and important parts of Freebitco.in are located in the USA or in other developed countries. Anyway, Costa Rica joined the Hague Evidence Convention and you must answer to the Costa Rican authorities.


Can I ask if you got in the past request from any legal system to reveal cash flow data of customers? Did you obeyed them?
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January 11, 2022, 01:30:32 AM
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The Quin is right: For the free Spins from the promotion email is the client seed editable if you do it before solving the Captcha, though its a little unintuitive. But what about the Spins you get via Reward Points, where can I set my own client seed? (If I do the Spins One-By-One.)

The same. Click the provably fair link before you play it.

The owners of Freebitco.in are watching their privacy. Can you reveal which legal system you obey beside Costa Rica?
This Whois Service says for Freebitco.in:
Registrant State/Province: San Jose
Registrant Country: CR
I'm guessing Costa Rica is a letterbox company address and important parts of Freebitco.in are located in the USA or in other developed countries. Anyway, Costa Rica joined the Hague Evidence Convention and you must answer to the Costa Rican authorities.

We retain a top legal firm who specialise in this to advise us and make sure everything we do is legal. We are fully aware of who we must answer to.

Can I ask if you got in the past request from any legal system to reveal cash flow data of customers? Did you obeyed them?

Yes. Yes.

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