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Oh really!  Another sporadic restoration. The rest of us are still owned by the thousands plus the bonus they promised us with.
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This just makes no sense that the owners (or new owners as some people seem to suggest this site is sold to someone else) don't care enough about their own business to not only fix its problems that are piling on but also they don't care enough to appoint someone to bitcointalk to actively address people's concerns and at the very least communicate with them!
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May 09, 2025, 09:56:30 AM |
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Can't remember when I was last here to post, but are we still actually helping to prop this site up?
Personally can't wait for my locked FUN to expire so I can sell it all off. Yesterday got a dump of FOUR emails telling me to do all sorts of things, including a FUN earning programme on Telegram (can't be bothered to check if I'm accurately remembering). But if people who sell FUN are actually getting freespins, well, people on Premium like me aren't.
Have to say though, this site has successfully turned itself back into a free site where absolutely no one is going to deposit unless they're new.
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May 09, 2025, 11:57:22 AM |
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Hey guys, I’ve been a Premium user on freebitco.in for a while. At some point I actually stopped logging in ’cause they didn’t give me the Wheel of Fortune spins they promised. That’s when I started thinking it might be a scam — even though there’s a ton of positive stuff about the site out there.
I was even about to send them traffic and try to make something with referrals, but that whole situation made me kinda lose trust.
Then I saw this headline: “Dutch Gambling Authority imposes penalty on Freebitco.in operator over illegal gaming.” Anyone know what’s going on with that?
Also, I’ve been getting the WoF spins again for the last two days. Not sure if that’s a good sign… or just them trying to cover their ass. Thoughts?
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How so? The only way he would be entitled to anything is if he were a resident in the Netherlands, and he would have broken the law anyway by accessing a gambling site without a Dutch license. This is not true. Non-citizens can sue in foreign countries, and especially in the Netherlands. Yeah, that would be the ideal way. Just starting an international legal proceeding would cost him more than $2.7K.
There's no need for sarcasm. You are correct that filing a lawsuit would be impractical in the vast majority of cases, but if there are sufficient numbers of people who are missing funds - and to be fair there might not be in this case, because FBC has actually been paying out to numerous people, if not virtually everyone lately - a lawyer in the island or other jurisdiction might be interested in the case. In this case, judgments would be enforceable under international law. This is a hypothetical, however. In the case of FBC, the site appears to be cleaning its act a bit and actually behaving, although the site seems to have unresolved technical issues.
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As a rule, in any bona fide business, the change of ownership is smooth and without much trouble for the end user. Let's assume that freebitcoin does have a new owner. Still, then the question arises: why is he not interested in developing the platform? The fact that trivial problems on the site last for months and there is almost no communication with users indicates that the new owner is not particularly interested in the site's development. It's not the incompetence of the new owner, it's something else.
Well, development costs money. To get a good developer team, you have to pay them a good salary. It seems either the new owner is not interested in developing the website, or he simply does not know whom to hire, or he still tries to rely on low-quality devs he knows. I believe the first one could be the reason. They do not want to spend money on development anymore. Their website is running, and they want to make as much money as possible using the same product without spending much on development.
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May 09, 2025, 01:05:39 PM Last edit: May 10, 2025, 12:03:42 AM by hosemary |
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But if people who sell FUN are actually getting freespins, well, people on Premium like me aren't.
It's not that those who sold their FUN tokens are receiving the WOF spins. I sold my FUN tokens while they owed me nearly 1500 WOF spins. A few days after I sold my tokens, I received 24 WOF spins (in 4 days, 6 spins in each day) and nothing more. I doubt I received those WOF spins because I sold my FUN tokens. I guess they credited some of missing WOF spins for a few days and that was stopped again.
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May 09, 2025, 03:39:18 PM |
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But if people who sell FUN are actually getting freespins, well, people on Premium like me aren't.
It's not that those who sold their FUN tokens are receiving the WOF spins. I sold my FUN tokens while I owed nearly 1500 WOF spins. A few days after I sold my tokens, I received 24 WOF spins (in 4 days, 6 spins in each day) and nothing more. I doubt I received those WOF spins because I sold my FUN tokens. I guess they credited some of missing WOF spins for a few days and that was stopped again. This site is now turned into miserable because things are not working as they needed which are creating more troubles even I agreed about few things which are mentioned in above posts they are not interested into this site with its all going freely. FUN tokens are now looked like dead project with WOF are stopped for many even they are also having locked like me, I locked few for having WOF but just few days then nothing coming into my account, or maybe they will send these after few days like @hosemary received.
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So they stole 544310 FUN from me 3 months ago and support has been nonexistent and not answering me since then.
That's about $26K at today's exchange rate. If it weren't for the fact that the site is in internet limbo and we don't even know which jurisdiction it answers to, it would be enough to consider taking legal action against it. And even more if you get a few aggrieved people together. But as things stand it is difficult. I calculated it at $2,700, but it's still unacceptable if true. I found out that the company, FBC BV, is based in Curaçao, a Dutch territory in the Caribbean. This would explain why the Dutch government imposed a penalty on the site: https://next.io/news/regulation/ksa-imposes-weekly-penalty-fbc-bv/So it seems to me the Dutch government is a possible avenue for those missing funds. Correct, it is more around $3k than $30k, the other poster was off by an order of magnitude. Here is the transaction https://etherscan.io/tx/0x472a243dda6c1529be6bfb2fe5b5899d782ae9b2c07049165d6fdf532a2552ff and you can see the ERC-20 Token Transfer Error (Unable to locate corresponding Transfer Event Logs), Check with Sender message. Under "More Details" click on View in Decoder to see the amount of 544310 FUN that was not sent I am based in Europe (not in the Netherlands though) but will look into trying to contact some party there. I just don't think whoever runs the site is out of reach - just because people say and believe so does not make it true.
I've lost count of how many emails I've sent. I even came here to create an account and messaged the CS account when it appeared a few months back here in this forum but I have not received any answer. So yes, in my eyes they are out of reach and ignoring a lot of complaints and issues. Can't remember when I was last here to post, but are we still actually helping to prop this site up?
Personally can't wait for my locked FUN to expire so I can sell it all off.
That's exactly what I was doing. My FUN unlocked in batches at the beginning of the year and when they unlocked I was transferring them off the site due to all the issues. The first 2 withdrawals went through, my last didn't and it has now been over 3 months since. Be careful and make sure you check their wallet first before attempting to withdrawal. Make sure there is enough FUN in the wallet or you will get the same problem as me.
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Helo i just transplant question to bere
Just look someone who knows When I deposited BTC on free bitcoin in What happen with crypto after? Bcz on BTC explorer are depositing transactions But with 0 zero balance
For clarification My address has 8 transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain. Last balance change was 2024-03-13 . It has received a total of 0.02xxxxBTC and has sent a total of 0.02xxxx BTC. The current balance of this address is 0 BTC. I did nowithdrawals at all
Where my crypto propably ONLY thing that Is understable Is their database And blockchain but Iam not able to orient in it Is IT normal?
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May 09, 2025, 06:08:18 PM |
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Helo i just transplant question to bere
Just look someone who knows When I deposited BTC on free bitcoin in What happen with crypto after? Bcz on BTC explorer are depositing transactions But with 0 zero balance
For clarification My address has 8 transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain. Last balance change was 2024-03-13 . It has received a total of 0.02xxxxBTC and has sent a total of 0.02xxxx BTC. The current balance of this address is 0 BTC. I did nowithdrawals at all
Where my crypto propably ONLY thing that Is understable Is their database And blockchain but Iam not able to orient in it Is IT normal?
I believe they run a local bitcoin core which has 1 account with thousands of addresses, and then they credit your account with the amount that arrived on the address dedicated to you. From my experience with FreeBitcoin, it's been safe and had no issues with deposit or withdrawl
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Just look someone who knows When I deposited BTC on free bitcoin in What happen with crypto after? Bcz on BTC explorer are depositing transactions But with 0 zero balance
User deposits usually get consolidated and transferred into other addresses. When you are using a custodial service, it doesn’t matter so much what is on the blockchain as long as their internal database accurately reflects what your balance should be.
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Oh really!  Got it today too and it works. Good sign, but like we say in our language - one swallow isn't a spring. If they will continue giving it daily, then it will be something positive. I'm just wondering how much time it will take to cover missing WOF's if they will give double rewards. I found out that the company, FBC BV, is based in Curaçao, a Dutch territory in the Caribbean. This would explain why the Dutch government imposed a penalty on the site: https://next.io/news/regulation/ksa-imposes-weekly-penalty-fbc-bv/So it seems to me the Dutch government is a possible avenue for those missing funds. Obviously, I would prefer the site owner to resolve these issues before they escalate. I just don't think whoever runs the site is out of reach - just because people say and believe so does not make it true. That's interesting, I haven't saw this article before, thanks for sharing it. Up to €840k penalty is a lot of money, but it's not that amount which should kill successful casino. In gambling world such and bigger penalties is regular thing in gambling world, even forsmaller casinos than Freebitco.in. Though, it's possible that they got penalties in other jurisdictions too.
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I locked few for having WOF but just few days then nothing coming into my account
If WOF spins work as expected, you should receive them even if you don't lock your FUN token. The requirement for receving WOF spins is to hold the minimum of 2500 FUN tokens. but just few days then nothing coming into my account, or maybe they will send these after few days like @hosemary received.
As I said, I received only 24 WOF spins. I recevied them around a month ago and they stopped again. The owe me nearly 1500 WOF spins. For clarification My address has 8 transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain. Last balance change was 2024-03-13 . It has received a total of 0.02xxxxBTC and has sent a total of 0.02xxxx BTC. The current balance of this address is 0 BTC. I did nowithdrawals at all
That's normal. Custodial services like freebitco ususally move the fund users send to their deposit address to another address. Take note that you are not the real owner of your deposit address on freebitco. Whenever you request a withdrawal, you will receive the fund from a different address.
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Then I saw this headline: “Dutch Gambling Authority imposes penalty on Freebitco.in operator over illegal gaming.” Anyone know what’s going on with that?
This isn't a recent issue. We have heard about it a few months ago. If I'm not wrong, then the whole issue is still pending for the final ruling of the court. Anyway, it will be better for you to stay aware if you are from Netherlands. Freebitco terms were like that 5.3.You agree that, at all times, when you use the Website, includingrequests for withdrawal or transfer of funds, you are not physicallylocated in any of the following countries: UnitedStates of America and its territories UnitedKingdom France Curacao Estonia Netherlands Belgium
Freebitco team usually doesn't apply the country restrictions rule on the users. But you won't have any options if they block your account by following that term.
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Helo i just transplant question to bere
Just look someone who knows When I deposited BTC on free bitcoin in What happen with crypto after? Bcz on BTC explorer are depositing transactions But with 0 zero balance
For clarification My address has 8 transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain. Last balance change was 2024-03-13 . It has received a total of 0.02xxxxBTC and has sent a total of 0.02xxxx BTC. The current balance of this address is 0 BTC. I did nowithdrawals at all
Where my crypto propably ONLY thing that Is understable Is their database And blockchain but Iam not able to orient in it Is IT normal?
If in your account, on the site it is showing that you have 0.02, everything is fine, and you can still do a test withdrawing that same amount you deposited, then check the blockchain and see that the exit will be from the same address you deposited, in my case, I have not yet seen a withdrawal from a different address that I deposited....
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Well, development costs money. To get a good developer team, you have to pay them a good salary. It seems either the new owner is not interested in developing the website, or he simply does not know whom to hire, or he still tries to rely on low-quality devs he knows. I believe the first one could be the reason. They do not want to spend money on development anymore.
Their website is running, and they want to make as much money as possible using the same product without spending much on development.
In that case, you can assume that they also don't want to spend on marketing or community managers. Maybe they think that it is enough to automate the work of the site and not worry about anything. By the way, their latest promotional mailing offering to participate in the already completed round of the Lambo lottery is a good example of the fact that everything is automated, and they don't even care about what they send.
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In that case, you can assume that they also don't want to spend on marketing or community managers. Maybe they think that it is enough to automate the work of the site and not worry about anything. By the way, their latest promotional mailing offering to participate in the already completed round of the Lambo lottery is a good example of the fact that everything is automated, and they don't even care about what they send.
Exactly. This could be the reason why they do not have any support staff or social media managers anywhere. Probably one or two people are taking care of the platform, who probably monitor the website from time to time. Their forum representative is not active. They do not have a support person either. I think they did it on purpose, and everything seems automatic. The owner probably approves the withdrawals sometimes, which is why people still get their withdrawals. Imagine the owner is in vacation for months 
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What is up with all the free spins that can not be played? I have dome free spins that I got probably for hodling FUN tokens, but when I try to spin them individually I get free spin expired message.
When I try "play all" option nothing happens.
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