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November 03, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
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I am getting about 1-2 per day with a fairly sizable balance, the rest is interest payments. Lots of little payments!

More or less how many PoR blocks do you find in 24 hours? since now i haven't found one single block Sad
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November 03, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
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since days my wallet is not syncing... what can I do

in the debug log there is hundreds of times:

"received block 89f47350a922f5295be3
11/03/14 10:23:19 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=a476c8025484c2d35803"

...is this correct?


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1) Take your very important wallet.dat and either rename it or move to a different folder (don't lose it whatever you do).
2) Delete everything else in C:\Users\******\AppData\Roaming\GridcoinResearch (where your wallet.dat is) except "gridcoinresearch.conf", "walletbackups" folder and your wallet.dat (which will be moved or renamed at this point).
3) Restart and let the blockchain download and you wallet sync (you won't have any coins since you real wallet isn't loaded).
4) Once synced with block explorer, shut it down and replace the wallet.dat with your original wallet.dat.

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November 03, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
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More or less how many PoR blocks do you find in 24 hours? since now i haven't found one single block Sad

Do you have some coins in your wallet?

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November 03, 2014, 07:37:46 PM
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Hello

I have something a bit over 100 GRC in my wallet, the wallet is online 27/7 and synced since a few days, I've been boinc-mining 24/7 since a month (about 2 weeks I'm back in Gridcoin team again) with 3-4 CPU depending on day, and the wallet finally sees that it's boinc mining (not "project investor", but it shows the proper project name). I've mined a few PoS blocks ("Mined - Interest"), but I'm interested in PoR blocks. When (approximately) should I mine first PoR block?

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November 03, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
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Another record for team Gridcoin: 2014-11-03    22,982,111!

Reddit link, upvote please: http://www.reddit.com/r/gridcoin/comments/2l718x/another_record_for_team_gridcoin_20141103_22982111/

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/118094994/bestxdays

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November 03, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
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Hello

I have something a bit over 100 GRC in my wallet, the wallet is online 27/7 and synced since a few days, I've been boinc-mining 24/7 since a month (about 2 weeks I'm back in Gridcoin team again) with 3-4 CPU depending on day, and the wallet finally sees that it's boinc mining (not "project investor", but it shows the proper project name). I've mined a few PoS blocks ("Mined - Interest"), but I'm interested in PoR blocks. When (approximately) should I mine first PoR block?

Usually over 24-48 hours after receiving rewards for the first two blocks.
How many connections do you have? What is the last block?
Can you please provide the listing for the next commands "listitem mymagnitude" and "listitem cpids"?


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November 03, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
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How many connections do you have? What is the last block?
Can you please provide the listing for the next commands "listitem mymagnitude" and "listitem cpids"?


16 connections, 30513 blocks


23:07:44

listitem mymagnitude


23:07:44

[
{
"Report" : "Magnitude Report"
},
{
"Payment Window" : 13.99913194
},
{
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Magnitude" : 26.32839557,
"Magnitude Accuracy" : 3.00000000,
"Payments" : 0.00000000,
"Owed" : 44.88672072,
"Avg Daily Payments" : 0.00000000
}
]



23:08:05

listitem cpids


23:08:05

[
{
"Command" : "cpids"
},
{
"Project" : "poem@home",
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"CPIDhash" : "b5730c409201f1dd8fb588dfaf93bcdb",
"Email" : "",
"UTC" : 0.00000000,
"RAC" : 0.00000000,
"Team" : "gridcoin",
"RecTime" : 0.00000000,
"Age" : 0.00000000,
"Verified UTC" : 1874.00000000,
"Verified RAC" : 63.00000000,
"Verified Team" : "gridcoin",
"Verified RecTime" : 1415030402.00000000,
"Verified RAC Age" : 21823.00000000,
"Is my CPID Valid?" : true,
"CPID Link" : "http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/get_user.php?cpid=845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Errors" : ""
},
{
"Project" : "world community grid",
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"CPIDhash" : "b5730c409201f1dd8fb588dfaf93bcdb",
"Email" : "7110578a2e859c41350c02c304919b36",
"UTC" : 27364.00000000,
"RAC" : 923.00000000,
"Team" : "gridcoin",
"RecTime" : 1415023613.00000000,
"Age" : 28609.00000000,
"Verified UTC" : 27363.00000000,
"Verified RAC" : 871.00000000,
"Verified Team" : "gridcoin",
"Verified RecTime" : 1415023202.00000000,
"Verified RAC Age" : 29018.00000000,
"Is my CPID Valid?" : true,
"CPID Link" : "http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/get_user.php?cpid=845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Errors" : ""
}
]


Strange #1: 3 CPUs working now (not 2), and sending computed jobs several times a day (each).
Strange #2: ""Avg Daily Payments" : 0.00000000"" - a joke or bug?
As a friend of PoR (and therefore Gridcoin friend too), I suggest to come back to testnet...

Usually over 24-48 hours after receiving rewards for the first two blocks.

OK, I'm synced since Saturday or Friday, so it's been 3 days now.


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November 03, 2014, 10:52:38 PM
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16 connections, 30513 blocks

The block number is correct. I have about 60 connections


[
{
"Report" : "Magnitude Report"
},
{
"Payment Window" : 13.99913194
},
{
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Magnitude" : 26.32839557,
"Magnitude Accuracy" : 3.00000000,
"Payments" : 0.00000000,
"Owed" : 44.88672072,
"Avg Daily Payments" : 0.00000000
}
]


The network owe you about 45 GRC. But you wont get PoR reward until your RAC amount will be > 50.
Your magnitude is very low. Do you use CPU or GPU for your projects? The ADP will be defined a bit later as soon network gathers statistics about your CPID.


[
{
"Command" : "cpids"
},
{
"Project" : "poem@home",
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"CPIDhash" : "b5730c409201f1dd8fb588dfaf93bcdb",
"Email" : "",
"UTC" : 0.00000000,
"RAC" : 0.00000000,
"Team" : "gridcoin",
"RecTime" : 0.00000000,
"Age" : 0.00000000,
"Verified UTC" : 1874.00000000,
"Verified RAC" : 63.00000000,
"Verified Team" : "gridcoin",
"Verified RecTime" : 1415030402.00000000,
"Verified RAC Age" : 21823.00000000,
"Is my CPID Valid?" : true,
"CPID Link" : "http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/get_user.php?cpid=845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Errors" : ""
},


Something wrong with your email. I believe you need wait for complete statistic for this project.   


{
"Project" : "world community grid",
"CPID" : "845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"CPIDhash" : "b5730c409201f1dd8fb588dfaf93bcdb",
"Email" : "7110578a2e859c41350c02c304919b36",
"UTC" : 27364.00000000,
"RAC" : 923.00000000,
"Team" : "gridcoin",
"RecTime" : 1415023613.00000000,
"Age" : 28609.00000000,
"Verified UTC" : 27363.00000000,
"Verified RAC" : 871.00000000,
"Verified Team" : "gridcoin",
"Verified RecTime" : 1415023202.00000000,
"Verified RAC Age" : 29018.00000000,
"Is my CPID Valid?" : true,
"CPID Link" : "http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/get_user.php?cpid=845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6",
"Errors" : ""
}
]



Your magnitude at the moment for this project is 55. The general magnitude is 55/77*33=24. Assuming current multiplier 2, you will receive about 50 GRC per day.  But you need time to understand how much you can get. Look on your Boinc statistic - i.e. RAC

As a friend of PoR (and therefore Gridcoin friend too), I suggest to come back to testnet...


It seems the main issues were fixed 3 days ago. I have about 500 GRC per day.

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November 04, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
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Thank you but:

The network owe you about 45 GRC. But you wont get PoR reward until your RAC amount will be > 50.
Your magnitude is very low. Do you use CPU or GPU for your projects? The ADP will be defined a bit later as soon network gathers statistics about your CPID.
CPU. I've said: I use 3 or 4 of them depending on day. And the work 24/7. That's why this situation is curious!!

Something wrong with your email. I believe you need wait for complete statistic for this project.  
Nothing is wrong, believe me! Complete statistics? I'm a member of gridcoin for 3 months with this email and username.

Your magnitude at the moment for this project is 55. The general magnitude is 55/77*33=24. Assuming current multiplier 2, you will receive about 50 GRC per day.  But you need time to understand how much you can get. Look on your Boinc statistic - i.e. RAC

3 (or 4) depending on day CPUs. It's enough (especially the GPU projects are rare and unknown). What power should be given? SHould I put 10 or 20 CPUs? I'd like to see the proportion.

50 GRC a day? OK! When I'll see it in mywallet?

It seems the main issues were fixed 3 days ago. I have about 500 GRC per day.

Congratulations! I've got zero. Something is not OK with this reward system. What computing power you have, and what computing power I have? I have >0 and blocks = 0!! Is this coin going to kill useful computations or it has major bugs? Or you are talking rubbish, or what's going on??

Finally I don't ask "how much a day". I will calculate it myself. I'd like the first PoR block (because of my contribution for some weeks) at any value to have comparison with those satoshi values PoS blocks, that I shouldn't have mined but I have mined!!

Clear rules, devs, please! I know it's not popular, but please!

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If you don't like the way Gridcoin works you are welcome to go mine something else!


Thank you but:

The network owe you about 45 GRC. But you wont get PoR reward until your RAC amount will be > 50.
Your magnitude is very low. Do you use CPU or GPU for your projects? The ADP will be defined a bit later as soon network gathers statistics about your CPID.
CPU. I've said: I use 3 or 4 of them depending on day. And the work 24/7. That's why this situation is curious!!

Something wrong with your email. I believe you need wait for complete statistic for this project.   
Nothing is wrong, believe me! Complete statistics? I'm a member of gridcoin for 3 months with this email and username.

Your magnitude at the moment for this project is 55. The general magnitude is 55/77*33=24. Assuming current multiplier 2, you will receive about 50 GRC per day.  But you need time to understand how much you can get. Look on your Boinc statistic - i.e. RAC

3 (or 4) depending on day CPUs. It's enough (especially the GPU projects are rare and unknown). What power should be given? SHould I put 10 or 20 CPUs? I'd like to see the proportion.

50 GRC a day? OK! When I'll see it in mywallet?

It seems the main issues were fixed 3 days ago. I have about 500 GRC per day.

Congratulations! I've got zero. Something is not OK with this reward system. What computing power you have, and what computing power I have? I have >0 and blocks = 0!! Is this coin going to kill useful computations or it has major bugs? Or you are talking rubbish, or what's going on??

Finally I don't ask "how much a day". I will calculate it myself. I'd like the first PoR block (because of my contribution for some weeks) at any value to have comparison with those satoshi values PoS blocks, that I shouldn't have mined but I have mined!!

Clear rules, devs, please! I know it's not popular, but please!
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November 04, 2014, 08:04:39 AM
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If you don't like the way Gridcoin works you are welcome to go mine something else!


One GRC's supporter has gone away a week ago, because of lack of support. I am the next, who go away because of lack of fair rules and profitability.
You thought that the people would use their electricity and have nothing from it?! Not "a bit" but really nothing?!

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CPU. I've said: I use 3 or 4 of them depending on day. And the work 24/7. That's why this situation is curious!!

So you don't have GPU at all? In this case why do you work on GPU (poem) project? With CPU only you never achieve the good results working on mixed GPU projects.     
Instead you need choose only the CPU projects from the projects white list  http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/BOINC/whitelist.htm


Your magnitude at the moment for this project is 55. The general magnitude is 55/77*33=24. Assuming current multiplier 2, you will receive about 50 GRC per day.  But you need time to understand how much you can get. Look on your Boinc statistic - i.e. RAC

3 (or 4) depending on day CPUs. It's enough (especially the GPU projects are rare and unknown). What power should be given? SHould I put 10 or 20 CPUs? I'd like to see the proportion.

Hm. Under CPU do you mean a single CPU with multiple cores or it is absolutely different machines?  If it is different machines check the value "cross_project_id" in the file C:\ProgramData\BOINC\client_state.xml on each PC. You might be use different CPIDs in your Boinc configuration. It's should be 845b58605ff3f10eb207a32db69cd6c6
If it is different that is the reason why do you have so low magnitude. You need synchronize CPIDs on each machine.
 
50 GRC a day? OK! When I'll see it in mywallet?

You receive your payment soon after the "Owed" value will be > 50   

Congratulations! I've got zero. Something is not OK with this reward system. What computing power you have, and what computing power I have? I have >0 and blocks = 0!! Is this coin going to kill useful computations or it has major bugs? Or you are talking rubbish, or what's going on??

Finally I don't ask "how much a day". I will calculate it myself. I'd like the first PoR block (because of my contribution for some weeks) at any value to have comparison with those satoshi values PoS blocks, that I shouldn't have mined but I have mined!!

Clear rules, devs, please! I know it's not popular, but please!

For many people the rules are working very well. Every day people receive thousands GRC. You can see all day rewards using the command "listitem magnitude".
Read this article http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Proof-of-Research for understanding rules.

p.s.
I am not developer. I am just a user Smiley

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November 04, 2014, 08:47:29 AM
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http://pool.gridcoin.us/ProfitabilityCalculator.aspx

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I think that calculator uses wrong BTC/GRC: that's the change for the old GRC, each of which converts to 10 research GRCs, so the BTC/GRC change should be divided by ten.

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November 04, 2014, 09:01:52 AM
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If you don't like the way Gridcoin works you are welcome to go mine something else!


One GRC's supporter has gone away a week ago, because of lack of support. I am the next, who go away because of lack of fair rules and profitability.
You thought that the people would use their electricity and have nothing from it?! Not "a bit" but really nothing?!

I noticed you have also posted in the cryptocointalk forum. Please wait for an answer there. They will probably need some more info though.

I understand your frustration. Hope it will be sorted soon

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November 04, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
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Thanks! My wallet is synced now.

It is connected with BOINC, it shows the correct project, I have 100 GRC in the wallet ... so everything should be fine :-)

You wrote in an other comment that you get get the GRC not before they sytem owes you 50 GRC.
Where can I see how much it owes me?
Do I have to do something or I just have to wait.

PS: my RACs are between 250 and 450 for each project I have selected



since days my wallet is not syncing... what can I do

in the debug log there is hundreds of times:

"received block 89f47350a922f5295be3
11/03/14 10:23:19 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=a476c8025484c2d35803"

...is this correct?


Try the following steps.

Quote
1) Take your very important wallet.dat and either rename it or move to a different folder (don't lose it whatever you do).
2) Delete everything else in C:\Users\******\AppData\Roaming\GridcoinResearch (where your wallet.dat is) except "gridcoinresearch.conf", "walletbackups" folder and your wallet.dat (which will be moved or renamed at this point).
3) Restart and let the blockchain download and you wallet sync (you won't have any coins since you real wallet isn't loaded).
4) Once synced with block explorer, shut it down and replace the wallet.dat with your original wallet.dat.

Best Regards,
Vlad

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November 04, 2014, 09:24:58 AM
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I think its "listitem cpids" or "listitem validcpids"

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November 04, 2014, 09:33:46 AM
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please head over to our forum at cryptocointalk




https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/464-gridcoin-grc/




for questions look at our wiki!



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November 04, 2014, 10:26:32 AM
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Tradermann was so kind to sent 100 GRC to my wallet.
After the reloading of the blockchain the are not any more in my wallet. (I saved the wallet.dat and copied it back)
the 100 GRC are listed in the transaktion and the have 9940 confirmations but the are not in the wallet and thats why it is not staking.
Somebody knows what to do?
Thanks!


since days my wallet is not syncing... what can I do

in the debug log there is hundreds of times:

"received block 89f47350a922f5295be3
11/03/14 10:23:19 ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=a476c8025484c2d35803"

...is this correct?


Try the following steps.

Quote
1) Take your very important wallet.dat and either rename it or move to a different folder (don't lose it whatever you do).
2) Delete everything else in C:\Users\******\AppData\Roaming\GridcoinResearch (where your wallet.dat is) except "gridcoinresearch.conf", "walletbackups" folder and your wallet.dat (which will be moved or renamed at this point).
3) Restart and let the blockchain download and you wallet sync (you won't have any coins since you real wallet isn't loaded).
4) Once synced with block explorer, shut it down and replace the wallet.dat with your original wallet.dat.

Best Regards,
Vlad
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November 04, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
 #3720

Thanks! My wallet is synced now.

It is connected with BOINC, it shows the correct project, I have 100 GRC in the wallet ... so everything should be fine :-)

You wrote in an other comment that you get get the GRC not before they sytem owes you 50 GRC.
Where can I see how much it owes me?
Do I have to do something or I just have to wait.

PS: my RACs are between 250 and 450 for each project I have selected


Just type the command "listitem mymagnitude"

Owed is the amount network owe you.

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