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								|  | April 04, 2014, 06:59:58 AM |  | 
 
 TO the conversation started a few pages back, I am also staying in this group buy with my original 5 shares. |  
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								|  | April 04, 2014, 12:18:41 PM |  | 
 
 TO the conversation started a few pages back, I am also staying in this group buy with my original 5 shares.
 yeah so am I .  I kept 5 refunded 7.  It would be nice to know  progress. Also 5 shares = 200 gh 25% bonus = 50 gh total is 250gh Are we still looking at this number?  or do we get more then 250gh?  for 5 shares.  many questions I have says Phil> |  
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								|  | April 07, 2014, 02:39:20 PM |  | 
 
 Well since they are ripping you off refunding BTC at current value when orders were priced $, it makes no sense to refund.  |  
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								|  | April 08, 2014, 02:36:46 PM |  | 
 
 I just request a refund for my order #778 for 5 shares placed in Nov...    . I still have one order open #1071... 7 shares of R17 might have bitcoin roi, but likely not fiat.  I also have 8 shares of R18, also from November. I guess we are in the process of getting a refund on that also...  Have to say I am disappointed, but not completely supprised. The manufactors are a little shady. At this point I would still do business with DZ, they have been pretty good about doing what they say.  Thanks, Danleuthner |  
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								|  | April 08, 2014, 04:41:19 PM |  | 
 
 Requested refund in thread. Pm bob. Emailed the address provided and still not heard anything. |  
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								| thomas_s (OP) | 
								|  | April 10, 2014, 03:29:43 PM |  | 
 
 Black Arrow progress update – 10 April 20141. Minion
 Received news from Global Foundries: they are 8 days ahead of schedule and will ship the wafers next week
 Have discussed and received great support from our packaging company, we’re looking forward to receive the chip.
 2. X3 hashboard – final design
 We have received the X3 hashboard sample, 2 days later than expected.
 Pending assembly
 3. X3 backplane – final design
 Adjusted parts based on feedback from the case
 Reviewing design, will send to factory tomorrow.
 4. X1 hashboard – final design
 PCB has been assembled
 5. X1 backplane – final design
 Completed, sent to factory
 6. Control board – final design
 Waiting for LCD + touchscreen factories
 7. X3 case
 has been corrected based on all the parts
 plastic parts have been sent to factory for review
 8. X1 case
 has been designed, pending review
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								|  | April 10, 2014, 03:34:03 PM |  | 
 
 Black Arrow progress update – 10 April 20141. Minion
 Received news from Global Foundries: they are 8 days ahead of schedule and will ship the wafers next week
 Have discussed and received great support from our packaging company, we’re looking forward to receive the chip.
 2. X3 hashboard – final design
 We have received the X3 hashboard sample, 2 days later than expected.
 Pending assembly
 3. X3 backplane – final design
 Adjusted parts based on feedback from the case
 Reviewing design, will send to factory tomorrow.
 4. X1 hashboard – final design
 PCB has been assembled
 5. X1 backplane – final design
 Completed, sent to factory
 6. Control board – final design
 Waiting for LCD + touchscreen factories
 7. X3 case
 has been corrected based on all the parts
 plastic parts have been sent to factory for review
 8. X1 case
 has been designed, pending review
 
 Okay so far so good.  what is the breakdown for those that stuck with this. I have 5 at 40 gh so that should be 5 at 50 each as the minimum boost correct? 250gh ? |  
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								| thomas_s (OP) | 
								|  | April 10, 2014, 03:36:38 PM |  | 
 
 Black Arrow progress update – 10 April 20141. Minion
 Received news from Global Foundries: they are 8 days ahead of schedule and will ship the wafers next week
 Have discussed and received great support from our packaging company, we’re looking forward to receive the chip.
 2. X3 hashboard – final design
 We have received the X3 hashboard sample, 2 days later than expected.
 Pending assembly
 3. X3 backplane – final design
 Adjusted parts based on feedback from the case
 Reviewing design, will send to factory tomorrow.
 4. X1 hashboard – final design
 PCB has been assembled
 5. X1 backplane – final design
 Completed, sent to factory
 6. Control board – final design
 Waiting for LCD + touchscreen factories
 7. X3 case
 has been corrected based on all the parts
 plastic parts have been sent to factory for review
 8. X1 case
 has been designed, pending review
 
 Okay so far so good.  what is the breakdown for those that stuck with this. I have 5 at 40 gh so that should be 5 at 50 each as the minimum boost correct? 250gh ?Sounds about right your hashrate of the 2th/s + 25%. |  
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								|  | April 10, 2014, 11:21:47 PM |  | 
 
 is it too late to ask for a refund? when does the mining start approximately? is there a time window for the delivery even? i would like to make some calculations and find the optimal way to go.
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								|  | April 11, 2014, 02:19:23 PM |  | 
 
 I just request a refund for my order #778 for 5 shares placed in Nov...    . I still have one order open #1071... 7 shares of R17 might have bitcoin roi, but likely not fiat.  I also have 8 shares of R18, also from November. I guess we are in the process of getting a refund on that also...  Have to say I am disappointed, but not completely supprised. The manufactors are a little shady. At this point I would still do business with DZ, they have been pretty good about doing what they say.  Thanks, Danleuthnerrecieved refund last night on this request. Thanks! danleuthner |  
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								|  | April 11, 2014, 03:01:09 PM |  | 
 
 There were two updates for BA yesterday sorry I missed the second as it wasn't in their original thread. BA Update 4/10/14 Dear Customers, We just want to let you know that we have not forgotten our promise and we will match in Ghash any competitor at the time of shipping. There is no point in discussing yet what extra hashing power you will receive as we have not started shipping yet. ASIC price match announced in thishttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565418.0 thread is part of our promise. Regards! |  
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								|  | April 11, 2014, 08:31:26 PM |  | 
 
 I am holding this R17 and the R18 one. |  
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								|  | April 15, 2014, 08:10:54 PM |  | 
 
 will wait and see if we gewt more then 20% boost due to the price match. |  
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								|  | April 15, 2014, 09:02:19 PM |  | 
 
 will wait and see if we gewt more then 20% boost due to the price match.
 *25% We MAY (emphasis on MAY) be able to apply the 10% discount on further orders, instead to a flat 10% refund on all orders.  |  
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								|  | April 15, 2014, 10:29:24 PM |  | 
 
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								|  | April 17, 2014, 05:04:04 PM |  | 
 
 I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly? |  
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								|  | April 17, 2014, 05:11:18 PM |  | 
 
 Bitcoin Miners progress update – 17 April 20141. Minion
 · The wafers have been shipped as confirmed by Global Foundries
 · The packaging supplier business partner received the wafers.
 2. Control board – final design
 · We received the LCD samples however testing proved unsatisfactory. New bespoke sample will be delivered to us in the next few days.
 3. Heatsink
 · First batch shipment received.
 4. X3 hashboard
 · The X3 hashboard sample has been tested and approved. Our engineers were happy to report that testing scored very highly on performance. Agreed delivery schedule with our manufacturing partner
 5. X3 backplane
 · Final testing under way. We expect to complete the testing results by Monday.
 6. X3 Fan
 · First batch delivery expected at the end of next week
 7. X3 Power Supply
 Under production
 8. X3 case
 ·Final design has been completed, waiting for the sample.
 ·Plastic mold is being manufactured
 9. X1 hashboard
 · PCB has been assembled.
 10. X1 backplane
 · A placement problem for the Ethernet connector has been found , we need to remake the board.
 12. X1- Fan
 · First batch delivery expected at the end of next week
 14. X1 case
 · Final design approved and sent to the factory which is going to start manufacturing the mold..
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								|  | April 17, 2014, 06:27:54 PM |  | 
 
 I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly?
 this I still have 5 shares  do I do something to move it? |  
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								|  | April 17, 2014, 06:29:57 PM |  | 
 
 I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly?
 this I still have 5 shares  do I do something to move it?I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly?
 Order imports to minersource are only for orders placed on an old version of the minersource site, if you only purchased a GB share then nothing will be imported and that news update about imported orders doesn't affect you. As previously mentioned any need to look up your order information for a DZ round can be done by visiting www.crypto-ops.com |  
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								|  | April 17, 2014, 08:51:54 PMLast edit: April 17, 2014, 09:02:12 PM by philipma1957
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 I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly?
 this I still have 5 shares  do I do something to move it?I just created an account on minersource.net with my same details I had on the dzminercoop old site.  Will my order now be imported or do I need to contact someone directly?
 Order imports to minersource are only for orders placed on an old version of the minersource site, if you only purchased a GB share then nothing will be imported and that news update about imported orders doesn't affect you. As previously mentioned any need to look up your order information for a DZ round can be done by visiting www.crypto-ops.comokay I still have my 5 shares. just checked the site. |  
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