NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[marcus03]

Two screenshots of what I've been busy with for my NXT Solaris client. To be released over the weekend, since I need a rest.

Market view



Personal account management showing NXT values in other currencies


Be careful with the market view, though. You know, it's closed source and I might have something in there that influences the markets in the direction I want...  

Killer!

Any news on how to make this kind of open-source for trustfulness?

Define "kind of open source". :-)

It already is partial open source. Full open source is not going to happen.

My take on this: Define how much you are willing to risk based on the level of trust that you have for a software. Only enter account secrets for accounts that have assets that matches your level of trust and accepted risk, e.g. create small asset accounts with another software and only enter secrets for these small stake accounts in my software. You could still use the "view only" functionality for your big stake accounts in my client and of course all other functions that don't require you to enter a secret.

[utopianfuture]

@marcus03 look freaking fantastic

[S3MKi]

Nxt price now
dgex @9079
bter @8580
Interesting

[mingophoria]

the wall in dgex have broke.....

[opticalcarrier]

Nxt price now
dgex @9079
bter @8580
Interesting

so, arbitrage between the 2 is doable?

[hypersire]

Try Zorin OS.

im pretty much stuck with ubuntu.  only one ive found that supports drivers for my qualcom at9565 wifi device. even the latest debian couldnt do it.  oh sure i could try to load a backport kernel but those come with godknows what other dependencies that Id have to resolve via another PC and copying files over from a usb stick

fuc*it

Unity sucks ass.  Try xubuntu -- An official version of Ubuntu Linux that uses the XFCE desktop environment.

There's also Lubuntu, but after trying them all I find using the net install of Ubuntu for the leanest installation possible + Openbox is the leanest, fastest and best all around - you just have to add what you need to it manually.

[gbeirn]

Nxt price now
dgex @9079
bter @8580
Interesting

so, arbitrage between the 2 is doable?

Sure I have considered it but the time it takes to move funds since everything is done manually usually causes it not to work out so well. I suppose if you had enough BTC and NXT at each you could do it.

[victoryxj]

Found a typo on the blockchain page:

"Noting found. Please check your number and try again." "Noting" should be "Nothing".

[mthcl]

Nxt price now
dgex @9079
bter @8580
Interesting

so, arbitrage between the 2 is doable?

definitely yes

[BitAddict]

Two screenshots of what I've been busy with for my NXT Solaris client. To be released over the weekend, since I need a rest.

Market view



Personal account management showing NXT values in other currencies


Be careful with the market view, though. You know, it's closed source and I might have something in there that influences the markets in the direction I want...  

Killer!

Any news on how to make this kind of open-source for trustfulness?

Define "kind of open source". :-)

It already is partial open source. Full open source is not going to happen.

My take on this: Define how much you are willing to risk based on the level of trust that you have for a software. Only enter account secrets for accounts that have assets that matches your level of trust and accepted risk, e.g. create small asset accounts with another software and only enter secrets for these small stake accounts in my software. You could still use the "view only" functionality for your big stake accounts in my client and of course all other functions that don't require you to enter a secret.

If we rise funds for this project, is any chance that it could be open source?

I'm sure the community is happy to pay you for this great work (I will personally add funds), but we will need this 100% open source.
Even if it is sexy is no point using it if I can find another client 100% open source.

As a community we really need to discourage all users to use closed source clients. It would be really bad image if some users money get stolen.

[gbeirn]

Two screenshots of what I've been busy with for my NXT Solaris client. To be released over the weekend, since I need a rest.

Market view



Personal account management showing NXT values in other currencies


Be careful with the market view, though. You know, it's closed source and I might have something in there that influences the markets in the direction I want...  

Killer!

Any news on how to make this kind of open-source for trustfulness?

Define "kind of open source". :-)

It already is partial open source. Full open source is not going to happen.

My take on this: Define how much you are willing to risk based on the level of trust that you have for a software. Only enter account secrets for accounts that have assets that matches your level of trust and accepted risk, e.g. create small asset accounts with another software and only enter secrets for these small stake accounts in my software. You could still use the "view only" functionality for your big stake accounts in my client and of course all other functions that don't require you to enter a secret.

If we rise funds for this project, is any chance that it could be open source?

I'm sure the community is happy to pay you for this great work (I will personally add funds), but we will need this 100% open source.
Even if it is sexy is no point using it if I can find another client 100% open source.

I think the problem was (not sure if its this client or not) that the program used to write it could not be open sourced due to the libraries used. So without an entire re-write, it wouldn't be possible.

[TwinWinNerD]

Two screenshots of what I've been busy with for my NXT Solaris client. To be released over the weekend, since I need a rest.

Market view



Personal account management showing NXT values in other currencies


Be careful with the market view, though. You know, it's closed source and I might have something in there that influences the markets in the direction I want...  

Killer!

Any news on how to make this kind of open-source for trustfulness?

Define "kind of open source". :-)

It already is partial open source. Full open source is not going to happen.

My take on this: Define how much you are willing to risk based on the level of trust that you have for a software. Only enter account secrets for accounts that have assets that matches your level of trust and accepted risk, e.g. create small asset accounts with another software and only enter secrets for these small stake accounts in my software. You could still use the "view only" functionality for your big stake accounts in my client and of course all other functions that don't require you to enter a secret.

If we rise funds for this project, is any chance that it could be open source?

I'm sure the community is happy to pay you for this great work (I will personally add funds), but we will need this 100% open source.
Even if it is sexy is no point using it if I can find another client 100% open source.

I think the problem was (not sure if its this client or not) that the program used to write it could not be open sourced due to the libraries used. So without an entire re-write, it wouldn't be possible.

this! Was already discussed.
Someone with those libraries can decompile the code and verify legitemecy.

[erik__]

Two screenshots of what I've been busy with for my NXT Solaris client. To be released over the weekend, since I need a rest.

Market view



Personal account management showing NXT values in other currencies


Be careful with the market view, though. You know, it's closed source and I might have something in there that influences the markets in the direction I want...  

Killer!

Any news on how to make this kind of open-source for trustfulness?

Define "kind of open source". :-)

It already is partial open source. Full open source is not going to happen.

My take on this: Define how much you are willing to risk based on the level of trust that you have for a software. Only enter account secrets for accounts that have assets that matches your level of trust and accepted risk, e.g. create small asset accounts with another software and only enter secrets for these small stake accounts in my software. You could still use the "view only" functionality for your big stake accounts in my client and of course all other functions that don't require you to enter a secret.

If we rise funds for this project, is any chance that it could be open source?

I'm sure the community is happy to pay you for this great work (I will personally add funds), but we will need this 100% open source.
Even if it is sexy is no point using it if I can find another client 100% open source.

As a community we really need to discourage all users to use your clients. It would be really bad image if some users money get stolen.

Exactly. This software will always been seen as shady if it remains closed source, as it should be if people are following even half intelligent due diligence. It is unacceptable considering what is at stake and no bounties should be given to the project. You could even be 100% honest, but there ends up being critical flaws in your software that expose users to risk/loss. Sorry marcus03. If you have spent any amount of time in the crypto community you should know better.

It looks nice but it not being open-source software is a non-starter for me and hopefully many other Nxters.  I hope someone is developing an open-source cross platform client if we're retiring the java web-based one.

[rickyjames]

So, quick question.  Say you are making a random new NXT password using 2 thru 9, a thru k, m thru n and p thru z so a field of 32 characters. What is the length of such a password to achieve maximum entropy /security, where adding one or more additional characters buys you no additional security?

that is an easy one. 100 digits, because all digits after that are ignored

Little less, you'll get maximum entropy with 32 symbols, but the thing is, the question is ill formed.

Consider one of strings over this alphabet:
23456789abcdefghijkmnpqrstuvwxyz

does it look secure to you?

Technically that is no more or less random than any other 32 character string, it just looks that way because of human pattern recognition.  Humans would try that string "first" so it is not a "random pull". 

Let me ask it another way.  How many possible total NXT accounts are there?  What is the algorithm applied to your secret phrase to generate the account number?  It's some combination of SHA-256 and Curve 25519, right?   

[BitAddict]

Then it should be getting an entire re-write.

+1.

With bounty for marcus03 and the one who rewrites it.

[Damelon]

Did I miss Nxt being added to this list as one of the "big and important" cryptos?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0

Looking at the date I have... :/

[TwinWinNerD]

Then it should be getting an entire re-write.

+1.

With bounty for marcus03 and the one who rewrites it.

Sounds like a plan, but marcus03 has to be onboard of that.

[cellone]

I tried http://nxtra.org/faucet/

I provided my account ID, email ID and captcha and while clicking submit I am getting the error "Invalid request".

[TwinWinNerD]

Did I miss Nxt being added to this list as one of the "big and important" cryptos?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0

Looking at the date I have... :/

It is there for quite some time, but still awesome

[Damelon]

Did I miss Nxt being added to this list as one of the "big and important" cryptos?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0

Looking at the date I have... :/

It is there for quite some time, but still awesome

Thought so.
I should get outside this thread more :p
But it's cozy and warm