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January 23, 2014, 12:41:54 AM
Last edit: January 23, 2014, 01:16:37 AM by allwelder
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One issue is we seem to have Nxters split across 3 (or more) forum. And the nxtcrypto forum is too bloated visually; I like compact visuals, and that forum looks like it was designed by drawing on a balloon with a magic marker. Then again, I'm an old usenet holdout that hates most modern web forums, so I'm a bad judge of what's 'good'.

I keep asking btc24/adminius about adding ability to reset password.  Also I dont like the new theme either.  So I preempt the style:

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/index.php?style=1

It can reset the Login  and finance password when click “my account”.

 
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January 23, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
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No joke. This open source and for mac and the client issue would be finished for ever. Cheesy

Nexern where are you? Do you have some updates? :s

i am here  Wink
still working on the client, currently refactoring the whole
gui labeling for multi-language support. also adding a reputation
system. testing the client next week with testnet. will make
some screenshots over weekend.
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No joke. This open source and for mac and the client issue would be finished for ever. Cheesy

Nexern where are you? Do you have some updates? :s

i am here  Wink
still working on the client, currently refactoring the whole
gui labeling for multi-language support. also adding a reputation
system. testing the client next week with testnet. will make
some screenshots over weekend.

Stop posting awesome news guys, we need low price for one more week to buy more   Smiley

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January 23, 2014, 01:24:18 AM
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January 23, 2014, 01:39:42 AM
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Guys and gals:

Myself, Damelon, Mistafreeze, buybitcoinscanada, instacash and others have been having a little talk with FrictionlessCoin on his 2 nex threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424724.0

I don't know about anyone else, but I gotta go to bed, and I know Damelon is up past his bedtime.
Looks like FC is on US East coast (ish), so it would be really appreciated if a few NXT'ers could keep the pressure up on him thru the day.
I think his brains about to explode, he's reduced to posting kitten pictures and avoiding all questions.
If we can push this a little bit harder, maybe he will stop being such an irritating troll and leave NXT in peace.

Anyway, it's a right laugh, winding him up.

And to all the guys who've been on the nex threads tonight: much thanks.


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January 23, 2014, 01:43:26 AM
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Quote from: Adam B. Levine
Hey Aaron,
I'm putting on a debate about Metacoin layers on FRIDAY in miami, will anyone able to speak about NXT be able to attend?  Mastercoin, Ethereum and Bitshares will be there.  This will run on LTB as a full episode next week.

Here's the description

At the beginning of the event, each camp will have the opportunity to present their platform, the value it adds and how it's different from the others.   The other speakers will then have an opportunity to ask questions about that platform.  This will repeat with all three projects.

The next portion of the discussion will be focused on

DACs, DAs - Specific use cases, multi-layer progressions, etc.  I'd like to expand on some of the early concepts we'll see developed on these technologies. 2-3 examples would be great per project
    
Fundraising - You've all done, it and it defines you to a certain extent as different from colored coins which was a much earlier idea but seems to have lacked that investable quality that is propelling this next generation.   What worked, what didn't.  What would you do differently and do those following in your footsteps absolutely need to do exactly the same.
    
I'd like to get visionary with the final broad topic, talk about what the ecosystem you're creating will look like in 10, 50, 100 years.  Are these Metacoins logical conclusion, or are there more innovative layers still to come?

Whatever time is left will be devoted to audience questions.

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This would be great. Who will speak?
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January 23, 2014, 01:48:56 AM
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It takes brains to launch a coin, even a cloned one, and Team KLONE just got a lot smarter ... I give you NXR


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January 23, 2014, 01:49:26 AM
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I don't know how I feel about Nxt being described as a metacoin, but since Ethereum is also on the list, it's not so bad.  I have noted that Andreas has mentioned Nxt a few times as "a layer on top of Bitcoin", though, which bugs me.



"Metacoin" in my mind is a coin that is designed to have other coins or assets ride on top of it.  Mastercoin is what I'd call a layer 2 metacoin bootstrapped on a level 1 coin.  Ethereum is a level 1 metacoin, Bitshares is a Level 1 metacoin, and NXT is a level 1 metacoin

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January 23, 2014, 02:01:42 AM
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Micro-bounty offer.

Just a small idea for marketing activities at the coming "Inside Bitcoin" events. We could have a win/win lottery for collected business cards. Like every contact who left a card could receive say 20 NXT, and three of them could go up to 100, 500 or even 1000 NXT. This would attract interest.

Now the best proposal on how to arrange this with the least management (emailing back and forth, managing lists etc.) gets 50 NXT.

I too participate in this contest. My idea is that we "create" and top up accounts where the passphrase is their email. And Then we notify them to collect the monies and transfer them somewhere safe.


i like that email idea, remove the @ and the . randomuesr345gmailcom is a pretty secure address but someone does have to create them all, and make sure they are all done right, or they are just going to DarkNXT

My idea for marketing: Postcard with NXT's top features, PoS, Green Mining, 100% new code, etc and on the reverse, a download link, preferably to the new one click App, or a download site that will be updated with the newest version and an address to a FAUCET with an individual redemption code.

Faucet pays out 10, 20, etc NXT but needs the redemption code so people don't use the faucet more than once, and has the added bonus of keeping the NXT that is funding the faucet in one account, so it can be reused for another event if not claimed. ( the email accounts would sit in separate accounts if not claimed)


WesleyH has a great faucet, would be easy enough to duplicate and create a list of "redemption codes" and also have the code be marked invalid if the user tries to redeem to an account with any NXT already in it

Thoughts? You can send the 50NXT bounty to my address below.. I'll use it to fund my ticket to the Inside Bitcoin conference in NYC this April

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January 23, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
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Quote from: Adam B. Levine
Hey Aaron,
I'm putting on a debate about Metacoin layers on FRIDAY in miami, will anyone able to speak about NXT be able to attend?  Mastercoin, Ethereum and Bitshares will be there.  This will run on LTB as a full episode next week.

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Oh how I wish I were in Miami.  Or anywhere even close.

I don't know how I feel about Nxt being described as a metacoin, but since Ethereum is also on the list, it's not so bad.  I have noted that Andreas has mentioned Nxt a few times as "a layer on top of Bitcoin", though, which bugs me.

I've been thinking about a few topics lately that Nxt proponents should address, because they're also hot topics in the Bitcoin world:  fungibility, transparency vs security, counteracting centralization, the "mining economy", numbers of transactions per block (and how they change over time) as a measure of value, maintaining strong consensus on the network, and "scarcity" (which I am beginning to think is simply a myth in the digital realm).  I think Nxt has some interesting solutions for these issues and think we should be documenting them in the whitepaper.  I swear I'll get to it one day.

I'm also wondering where we are with finding someone to take the 10BTC fund for a cryptanalysis on Curve25519 key generation and EC-KCDSA signing...?  I stumbled upon this guy, from Amsterdam, who proposed a Curve25519 cryptanalysis in 2009, and am wondering if any of our Netherlandic friends (Damelon??) might want to poke him: Cees de Laat

Interesting event there. Could Niffy present NXT and talk about technical stuffs ? I don't think any technically strong guy plan to be in Miami yet.

What's a pity.  could someone go ? It is a excellent chance to present NXT. Ferment ? wesleyh ? Cfb ? how much would be a Belarus-Miami flight ticket ?

How about Ola  Huh


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January 23, 2014, 02:10:33 AM
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I don't know how I feel about Nxt being described as a metacoin, but since Ethereum is also on the list, it's not so bad.  I have noted that Andreas has mentioned Nxt a few times as "a layer on top of Bitcoin", though, which bugs me.



"Metacoin" in my mind is a coin that is designed to have other coins or assets ride on top of it.  Mastercoin is what I'd call a layer 2 metacoin bootstrapped on a level 1 coin.  Ethereum is a level 1 metacoin, Bitshares is a Level 1 metacoin, and NXT is a level 1 metacoin

Thanks for that clarification!  Makes total sense.  And since CfB is already working on a PoW crypto based on Nxt's PoS, I'd say the characterization is perfect.

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is there a byte limit for an alias?
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January 23, 2014, 02:12:03 AM
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Can turning off the computer  crash the transaction.nxt or blocks.nxt files?

yesterday my account balance isn't correst, so i delete .nxt files, restart nrs.5.9, waiting half hour
everything is ok.
then turn off the computer.
later i turn on it ,can't connecting NRS
in command line,type java -jar start.jar,
the information show the blocks.nxt has error,
so i delete them again,of course ,after that ,everything is ok again.


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Can turning off the computer  crash the transaction.nxt or blocks.nxt files?

yesterday my account balance isn't correst, so i delete .nxt files, restart nrs.5.9, waiting half hour
everything is ok.
then turn off the computer.
later i turn on it ,can't connecting NRS
in command line,type java -jar start.jar,
the information show the blocks.nxt has error,
so i delete them again,of course ,after that ,everything is ok again.


My hunch is that whatever method you're using to shut down your computer is a little too harsh on the Java processes, and is terminating Nxt before it has a chance to close threads and complete file input/output.  I know the devs have put some work into cleaning that up in the last few versions, so I'd recommend making sure you stop the server (depending on your platform, it'll be some variation of hitting CTRL+C in your server's command window) before issuing your shutdown command.  Might be worth giving Java a few extra seconds to finish the shutdown, too, just in case.


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January 23, 2014, 02:22:53 AM
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I'm always stunned when I reach the end of this thread, and 9pm on the East Coast USA< all the European NXTrs are fast asleep (or drunk, or with someone more interesting that me..)

I can't believe theres not 20 pages to read..

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is there a byte limit for an alias?

Alias - (0, 100]
URI - [0, 1000]

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if(aliasValue.length() != 0 && aliasValue.length() <= 100) {
   alias = aliasValue.toLowerCase();

   for(i = 0; i < alias.length() && "0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz".indexOf(alias.charAt(i)) >= 0; ++i) {;}

   if(i != alias.length()) {
      responses.put("errorCode", Integer.valueOf(4));
      responses.put("errorDescription", "Incorrect \"alias\" (must contain only digits and latin letters)");
   } else {
      uri = uri.trim();
      if(uri.length() > 1000) {
         responses.put("errorCode", Integer.valueOf(4));
         responses.put("errorDescription", "Incorrect \"uri\" (length must be not longer than 1000 characters)");
      } else {
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} else {
   responses.put("errorCode", Integer.valueOf(4));
   responses.put("errorDescription", "Incorrect \"alias\" (length must be in [1..100] range)");
}
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January 23, 2014, 02:28:47 AM
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NiftyNikel is ready to represent Nxt at the Miami Bitcoin Conferene (I'll be there for Peercoin with my own swag).  We'll be working together throughout the conference:






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January 23, 2014, 02:33:24 AM
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Also how do i change my nickname on this forum? when I joined up I went for a more random name, but now with NXT I want to be more transparent and use my regular nick "jefdiesel"

thanks

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Hey Aaron,
I'm putting on a debate about Metacoin layers on FRIDAY in miami, will anyone able to speak about NXT be able to attend?  Mastercoin, Ethereum and Bitshares will be there.  This will run on LTB as a full episode next week.

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Adam B. Levine
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Oh how I wish I were in Miami.  Or anywhere even close.

I don't know how I feel about Nxt being described as a metacoin, but since Ethereum is also on the list, it's not so bad.  I have noted that Andreas has mentioned Nxt a few times as "a layer on top of Bitcoin", though, which bugs me.

I've been thinking about a few topics lately that Nxt proponents should address, because they're also hot topics in the Bitcoin world:  fungibility, transparency vs security, counteracting centralization, the "mining economy", numbers of transactions per block (and how they change over time) as a measure of value, maintaining strong consensus on the network, and "scarcity" (which I am beginning to think is simply a myth in the digital realm).  I think Nxt has some interesting solutions for these issues and think we should be documenting them in the whitepaper.  I swear I'll get to it one day.

I'm also wondering where we are with finding someone to take the 10BTC fund for a cryptanalysis on Curve25519 key generation and EC-KCDSA signing...?  I stumbled upon this guy, from Amsterdam, who proposed a Curve25519 cryptanalysis in 2009, and am wondering if any of our Netherlandic friends (Damelon??) might want to poke him: Cees de Laat

Interesting event there. Could Niffy present NXT and talk about technical stuffs ? I don't think any technically strong guy plan to be in Miami yet.

What's a pity.  could someone go ? It is a excellent chance to present NXT. Ferment ? wesleyh ? Cfb ? how much would be a Belarus-Miami flight ticket ?

How about Ola  Huh

Nifty is a great network engineer, but not a developer. Guys, it would be worth putting some of that bounty toward flying one of our developers to the conference. Getting in front of the movers and shakers is one of the most important PR opportunities for Nxt.

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January 23, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
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NiftyNikel is ready to represent Nxt at the Miami Bitcoin Conferene (I'll be there for Peercoin with my own swag).  We'll be working together throughout the conference:





See thats a great idea, but nxtcrypto.org/start is just more info. Idea would be to have the app be right there, and the faucet.

What does the QR scan? NM.. same address..

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