NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Chang Hum]

of course not; just explain how its ok for a "company" to do an audit of our curve signing implemenation, but not ok for a private competent individual to do it, just because he happens to teach at a university?

Ok, I'll try one more time (by the way, nice example from utopianfuture about the rating agencies).

When you pay a company, it does the audit and hands results to you.

When an (already-on-a-salary) academic does a review, he announces it to the whole world.

Small, but crucial difference.

I hate academics and their gay twead blazers.

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[abuelau]

sorry guys just needed little help where's the best place to buy & park a domain name...preferably using paypal?

I normally use hostgator but wanted to see if there was a better option.

I normally use godaddy

[opticalcarrier]

of course not; just explain how its ok for a "company" to do an audit of our curve signing implemenation, but not ok for a private competent individual to do it, just because he happens to teach at a university?

Ok, I'll try one more time (by the way, nice example from utopianfuture about the rating agencies).

When you pay a company, it does the audit and hands results to you.

When an (already-on-a-salary) academic does a review, he announces it to the whole world.

Small, but crucial difference.

The plan has never been for whoever we hire to write a paper and announce it to the world.  In my discussions with Ittay, this never came up.  The results of the work were just for our community's peace of mind on our code's security.

[msin]

Then find someone who will do it for free.

So, to reverse your logic, if I can't find somebody who will do it free, I should go and pay somebody with questionable ethics, who will?

So if I can't, say, get a building permit from a government official, I should go and find somebody who can "solve my problem" for a fee?

You see the slippery slope yet?

There is no logic involved, I'm asking you to find someone to do it for free.

[CIYAM]

Can anyone remember how much Satoshi paid Kasperski?

I certainly doubt he published "out of the goodness of his heart" though (so perhaps we ought to find an academic who has secretly already invested in NXT).

[utopianfuture]

Can anyone remember how much Satoshi paid Kasperski?

I certainly doubt he published "out of the goodness of his heart" though.

Let's hire Kasperski. Does anyone have an objection ?

[msin]

of course not; just explain how its ok for a "company" to do an audit of our curve signing implemenation, but not ok for a private competent individual to do it, just because he happens to teach at a university?

Ok, I'll try one more time (by the way, nice example from utopianfuture about the rating agencies).

When you pay a company, it does the audit and hands results to you.

When an (already-on-a-salary) academic does a review, he announces it to the whole world.

Small, but crucial difference.

I agree we shouldn't hire a company to do the audit.  We need to find a person to do the audit, someone who is an academic or professional in the crypto market.  I've contacted about 10 individuals who's ethics wouldn't be questioned, and who could care less about 10BTC.  I'm basing their ethics on the fact that none of them have involvement in crypto currencies, which I would say is a conflict of interest if they did.

[Chang Hum]

Can anyone remember how much Satoshi paid Kasperski?

I certainly doubt he published "out of the goodness of his heart" though.

Let's hire Kasperski. Does anyone have an objection ?

I would imagine Kasperski does with 10 Bitcoins

Edit: Kasperski if you're reading this forum please post so we can negotiate

[Bitventurer]

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I normally use hostgator but wanted to see if there was a better option.

buy at godaddy and park at parkingcrew.com/above.com or  domainnamesales.com (this one will review your portfolio first,needs to be with traffic,but pays more then others)

[CIYAM]

Edit: Kasperski if you're reading this forum please post so we can negotiate

Man - to have waded through 1200 pages of this topic I think he would have already have had to be paid more than 10 BTC.

[bitcoinpaul]

Hey guys this is NiftyNikel

While I would be more than happy to be part of a team with a dev to field questions, I feel that me alone would not be a good idea. While I am technically minded, I am no where near a dev level to be able to articulate the inner workings of the protocol or it's advanced features. Since this is more geared towards the technical side, I say we need to get a dev out there for the panel.

I would be willing to chip in to get a dev there and be on the panel with them, but time is limited and something needs to happen soon. Like others have said, this is an amazing opportunity for Nxt and we should do everything possible to get a dev there.

So guys, 10 minute break of this pay-or-not-pay-stuff.

Let's wangle this! Thoughts, comments, ideas?

Please.

[msin]

Can anyone remember how much Satoshi paid Kasperski?

I certainly doubt he published "out of the goodness of his heart" though.

Let's hire Kasperski. Does anyone have an objection ?

I would imagine Kasperski does with 10 Bitcoins

Why don't we submit it as an academic project for MIT or Stanford students?  If you can find a flaw, report it to CFB for approval, we give you 10 BTC.   I can set that up.

[Chang Hum]

If there is a fatal flaw I'm going to try and buy the entire worthless network for 21 bitcoins

[Damelon]

Edit: Kasperski if you're reading this forum please post so we can negotiate

Man - to have waded through 1200 pages of this topic I think he would have already have had to be paid more than 10 BTC.

*whistles innocently and points to his sig*

Same offer for me?

[CIYAM]

Same offer for me?

After someone pays me (I have also read every post in this topic)!

[Zahlen]

Ok, let me put it another way - what will give LAK value?

Choose any or both options:

1. Burnt electricity (like in Bitcoin)
2. Agreement that 1 LAK has value (like in Bitcoin)

Bitcoin has a third option - decentralized blockchain, which allows financial transactions.

What can your LAK do that neither NXT, nor Bitcoin can?

Lots of Clonecoins have value, even though they offer nothing that Bitcoin or Litecoin doesn't already have.

LAK seems to offer convenient mining, convenient enough that site visitors may not mind the extra processing workload (or at least mind it less than ads). I'm interested  

EDIT: Me first! I've read 1-2 more posts than you guys!

[Damelon]

Same offer for me?

After someone pays me (I have also read every post in this topic)!

We all deserve a prize to have waded through 1200 pages.

[Komputor]

@cfb I regularly read this thread and i saw you mention one of your projects "Lakshmi coin". It looks like there is a group in India trying to create a bitcoin clone called "Laxmi coin". Here is the website - http://www.laxmicoin.com/
Thought i'd let you know. BTW big, big thanks to you and all the devs for your amazing work!

Edit: Apparently they're trying to make it an exclusively Indian cryptocurrency  - http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/bitcoin-impact-laxmicoin-seeks-regulatory-clarity-for-launch/article5549324.ece

[msin]

Here is a list of people we can contact:

http://pages.swcp.com/~mccurley/cryptographers/cryptographers.html

[Chang Hum]

@cfb I regularly read this thread and i saw you mention one of your projects "Lakshmi coin". It looks like there is a group in India trying to create a bitcoin clone called "Laxmi coin". Here is the website - http://www.laxmicoin.com/
Thought i'd let you know. BTW big, big thanks to you and all the devs for your amazing work!

That's what I thought he was working on!