This is my first exposure to UK politics today. But I can clearly see a lackluster reaction to this speaker compared to Corbyn:
What is the difference. I see it. Corbyn speaks idealistically about "a better world by being respectful of betterment and each other". He represents the starry-eyed youth takeover that AnonyMint predicted. Remember AnonyMint's research into the generational cycle of change which is quoted below.
Corbyn is very dangerous. This will become an ideological movement of the Hero generation of the youth. The high unemployment due to the shift to the Knowledge Age is the problem. Too many kids taking up useless liberal arts degrees.
Brand’s excoriation of the political class felt to many like a breath of fresh air. But while Brand’s humor-infused brew of Marxism, anarchism and New Age spirituality may seem like the mere rantings of a rebellious entertainer who frequently refers to himself as a “Jungian Trickster,” I would argue he represents a more dangerous omen.
The Occupy Wall Street “movement” (if there ever was such a thing) – and emerging generations of young Americans more generally – is being led by Brand and other pied pipers away from practical reality and into an illusory “world of pure imagination”. What in 2009 had the makings of a New Deal-oriented mass strike upsurge is being steered off course by Wall Street interests in a rehash of 1968.
I did some research on Tue May 01, 2012 6:36 am (quoted below) on the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle) which predicts the above effect. The youth will take over after 2032, and the kind of world they will create will be one of extreme idealism. This is FDR New Deal style of dangerous. This will launch big government on a bigger scale than we had ever seen before, i.e. "international cooperation" as code word for loss of local sovereignty. The youth will put in place the U.N. Agenda 21 with a gleam in their eye as they are trained and indoctrinated now to believe for example that man-made global climate change hoax is real and is a real problem.
Here follows the research, and I urge everyone to study this carefully.
I haven't verified whether this long wave cycle principle repeats throughout history, but I assume he has, since he said he spent 10 years perfecting it:
http://www.longwavegroup.com/principle/lefi_map/lefi_map.phphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58qtcPst2OII had read an article that ties this cycle into generational cycle attitudes. I am trying to find it, as I think it explains a difference in world view between Boomers, Gen X, and Gen Y.
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Okay I found it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory#Defining_a_generationhttp://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-risinghttp://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/the-gathering-storm Prophet Nomad Hero Artist
High Childhood Elderhood Midlife Young Adult
Awakening Young Adult Childhood Elderhood Midlife
Unraveling Midlife Young Adult Childhood Elderhood
Crisis Elderhood Midlife Young Adult Childhood
High = Spring
Awakening = Summer
Unraveling = Fall
Crisis = Winter
Prophet = Boomers (born 1946 - 1964), 40 percent of the workforce
Nomad = Gen X (born 1965 - 1979), 16 percent of the workforce
Hero = Gen Y (born 1980 - 1994), 25 percent of the workforce
Artist = Gen Z (born 1995+)
Boomers = vision, values, and religion (loyalty, idealistic, entitled)
Nomad = liberty, survival and honor (survival, pragmatic, alienated)
Hero = community, affluence, and technology (order, righteous, protected)
Artist = expertise and due process (continuity, flexible, overprotected)
Some links on different attitudes between the current generations:
http://www.reliableplant.com/Read/2431/boomers-generationshttp://jojackson.suite101.com/veterans-baby-boomers-gen-x-gen-y-and-gen-z-a185353http://www.enotes.com/soc/discuss/what-different-characteristics-generation-x-e-90271I made some interesting comments here:
http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/03/hackers-part-3.html?showComment=1335903496830#c239549748064135439I presented the generational research in the Transparency blog, which explains why we are not going to agree on the use of the government to enforce values:
http://relativisticobserver.blogspot.com/2012/04/transparency-way-of-future.html?showComment=1335900204476#c1703906618219560883At least we can be rational about understanding why we have different political philosophies.
We Gen X did not grow up entitled. We have to struggle on our own to get where we are. We don't feel entitled, and thus we are not stakeholders in the society that the Boomers built. We trust the free market, because that is what we were dealing with on our own. Social security won't be there for us. The boomers took more than all (debt every where). We've had to scrap and negotiate hard to get some. And instead of giving back to us now the peace of individual freedom that we want, they want to put their value system on us (which will continue to escalate the wars).
So there is conflict ahead.
The Heros are going to rebuild new institutions and fighting the wars to tear down the current corrupt ones. We Nomads are caught in the cross-fire and just trying to find a way to not get squeezed out. Thus we have no choice but to discard the social contract, as it won't be rebuilt in time for us.
So now we can understand why boomer's (you) politics are loyalty, enforcing idealistic values, and maintaining entitlements.
And Gen X's (me) politics are liberty, pragmatic survival, individualism (honor), and distrust of values and institutions. I am libertarian anarchist. So trying to convince me that the entitled state should enforce values, is like me telling you that we should privatize the government.
Fascinating.
It explains why we are going to disagree about any political/social topics, such as Hackers, Transparency, media's role in society, etc..
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Some useful tables (although I think this deviates in some cases from the generational theory in the prior comment):
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/james-quinn/2011/11/03/bad-moon-risingThe Boomers (elders) and Heros (youth) are archtypes and will be at odds. Boomers will judge them to have threatened values (remember the Heros are protected), yet ironically the above link claims the Boomers did more drugs, volunteered less, have lower college education, and higher teen pregnancy than the Heros do.
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If the people can't win on a local level, then it means any proposed solution will be supporting loss of local sovereignty. You simply can't amass resources collectively and avoid the corruption of the power vacuum of democracy. Understanding Mancur Olson's (in his book
The Logic Of Collective Action) thesis is fundamental to understanding where we are and are headed:
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)
Thus you see the ultimate outcome of this country-by-country uprising is to turn over control to those who have the levers of control (over the power vacuum) in the wider-scale collective, e.g. the USA, EU, Russian bloc, subservient Asia bloc (China).
And you can thus see it will culminate with war and then ending war with socialist "international cooperation". I refer readers to my prior post about the Long Wave Generational Cycle, and how the youth will take control 2032ish after a widespread chaos, and they will be indoctrinated with "international cooperation" themes (from their state schools, facebook, mass media, etc) such as the man-made global warming hoax.
So the end game of all of this is reset of the global order, discrediting local sovereignty, and awarding control the wider-scale globalists who will have the youth movement in their back pocket, just as they did in the 1960s in the USA.
And so tell me there isn't a globalist agenda and it is all just random chance that such as global order outcome is inevitable?
Now is there any other possible solution? Yes there is, and that is anonymous crypto-currency to defund the globalist beast. But this won't scale fast enough to derail the beast entirely. It can displace a portion of the beast.
So what is really happening in a bigger picture perspective? I explained this is the death of passive capital. The globalist beast is moving to higher economies-of-scale, because it is being made irrelevant by the death of the Industrial Age and the rise of the Knowledge Age, see following linked explanations:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg6103426#msg6103426https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6077596#msg6077596 (read all my posts from this one going downthread)
We have two competing yet coexistent trends. The political-industrial passive capitalists (fascists) are consolidating power because their paradigm is an economic dinosaur which is being displaced by the competing trend. The competing trend is the rise of individual knowledge and power to reach the market and produce directly from one's brain (and computer).
So on the one hand we will see a rise in consolidation of global hegemony, Orwellian technocracy, and multi-national corporate fascism and massive decline in economic production, while only the other hand we will see the 'hackers' (the broader definition meaning knowledge worker) break away in a sub-economy and we will see much chaos and rapid economic growth in this subspace.
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Now, this is the sequence of events. Yes, you can create a conspiracy and say Goldman, CIA, and Safra all coordinated together to accomplish this. But the more likely than not truth, it is a sequence of independent events one step at a time that cascades into a mess they never foresaw.
Then please explain why Goldman has its tentacles throughout the EU fuckfest. You even noted that the creation of the EU was designed to be flawed. Is that random? No! It was by design.
This is where the conspiracy buffs go wrong. They create false images of all-powerful groups that mysteriously manipulate the world for purposes that vary between world dominance to just greed. They cannot see that these are separate groups colliding and at times fighting among each other.
Martin you understand statistics. What is the probability of that level of integration by Goldman due to random orthogonal events and greed. ROUGHLY ZERO.
I am tired of this nonsense. Armstrong is smarter than this. I don't know why he can't do some actual research and overcome his confirmation bias. Obstinance?
I do not see how it is possible to have some unified secret group that everyone agrees and extended for hundreds of years. This is inconsistent with human nature.
Because there is a power vacuum of democracy and it must be filled. You should understand thermodynamics.
This vested interest binds them together, because they can't win control of that power vacuum otherwise.
This is entirely consistent with nature.
Now look at Ukraine. These conspiracy theorists just have to denigrate the people and presume it is some CIA plot so nobody cares about them. The people are incidental to them and incapable of rising up on their own. They deny human nature exists yet yell there is some all-powerful group to which I am blind. To them, the American Revolution and French Revolution are propaganda and the people were never capable of rising up on their own. They not only fail to understand politics yet claim to know everything about it without ever stepping behind the curtain to witness anything.
Armstrong is conflating orthogonal issues again. I am empathizing with the plight of the Ukrainians, but there is nothing we can do to help them, because we would be merely fighting for the elite and helping the manipulation. The only way for Ukrainians to win is either to have armed themselves with a gun under every blade of grass like in the USA, or for some technological solution to come which enables them to side-step (opt-out) of the power vacuum of democracy, i.e. defund the taxation and political-industrial complex.
And those prior revolutions were also manipulated for outcomes which favored the elite. We would need to get into a deep study of history to debate that, and I don't have time right now. I do believe there was more chaos at that time, because communication and travel was slower thus the chance we see now with anonymous crypto-currency was instead at the time taking the form of distance from the powers-that-be in Europe in the case of the American Revolution.
These people project nothing but speculation connecting dysfunctional groups and linking them to statements of David Rockefeller to justify as proof. This idea of a one world government would eliminate war is stupidity. But it was behind the drive to create a Federalized Europe. Nevertheless, that is not proof that some group controls the world.
Armstrong also has nothing but speculation, at least I have provided volumes of evidence.
The difference now is that global technocracy is a reality and they can track everything. You bring the idealistic youth onboard and they will create an EU style fuckfest "international cooperation" for the entire world. And Rockefeller et al will have achieved their Agenda 21 consolidation of control and power over taxation and issuance of debt.
There is no political system that has ever lasted intact because there is a correction process that comes from the grass-roots that we call – REVOLUTION.
The only effectual physical revolution you will be seeing are the zombie idealistic youth for "international cooperation", after the global war and chaos from 2016 to 2024 or 2032.
This globe has been shrunk by technology. The only remaining frontier for freedom is cryptography. Armstrong has a dinosaur perspective and he needs to correct this pronto!
"Protester Paul Connor sits on the lawns of Parliament House on day 34 of his hunger strike calling for climate change action, on Dec. 10, 2009, in Canberra, Australia."
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It doesn't even matter if there is a mastermind or not, the reality is Armstrong doesn't even identify the main trend in place, which is not just taxation but rather subjugating sovereignty to the collective on a wider scale as I have explained.
They refuse to consider what if there is nobody actually in charge? What happens when all of these conflicting self-interests collide? Historically, you get revolution. That is the only way this will be resolved.
And now finally I understand why Armstrong doesn't get it. He thinks the revolution will be physical. He hasn't realized the world has shrunk due to technology, and physical revolution can't overcome the great powers and the global technocracy. These revolutions will all be manipulated by the great powers.
The revolution and frontier is cryptography. I've been trying to tell him this for several months.
